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IMPO High end AKC Obedience has never been part of my dogs development. Primarily it is a timing issue, in the dogs life. The time spent on competitive AKC obedience training could be spent on the actual behaviors a dog needed to be developing in the field. After a dog has developed into the working...

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Done some retrieving with a couple of pups the other day ,working on steadiness and honour also delivery. Having a few problems so any constructive criticism is welcomed :lol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=323pwK_t6Ng Grandpa you have your hands full you better get them going good before you take...

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Jim Karlovic would be the best council you have. He would be your go to spaniel guy, with questions or issues. Jim and I spent time together 20 yrs or so ago in Wales when we were both at Saighton Kennels on dog buying and training week! L to R Photo of myself, my wife Nancy, Jim Karlovic, Lee Roy V...

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Read a few but the one I'm following is "Hup! training flushing spaniels the American way". It's very easy to follow and answers most of my questions. If you have another recommendation I'd love to hear it. I trained my lab using Evan Graham's smart works book and videos. Evan's SmartWorks is and e...

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On a side note. I have noticed those who fancy themselves training/dog "experts" are frequently those whom are easily offended when When someone does not agree with them or presents an alternative. This seems to hold true on forums and at group training days as well. So true, those poor politically...

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A different approach taken here. Whilst introducing a pup to feather or fur in the early stages (we do it around 6 -9 weeks old) is encouraged but it is not continued. The video posted by Gundogguy' shows a 'placeboard' method to shape a behaviour of re-call to a known safe place with a hold at a l...

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Bumper vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0CRzD9-mC4

Cold dead pigeon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W4X7ob-4z8

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The Internet and forums weren't even a twinkle in someones eye when I began with gundogs ! :lol: You learned ....or didn't learn.....on the job by really looking hard at the way people you wanted to emulate trained/worked their dogs. I'd had a springer and a lab for almost 2 years before I actually...

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I have a 1.5 year old springer. We mainly hunt and occasionally test for something to do. I train every day weather permitting. The cone drills (or whatever object) to teach quartering are something I will never use. The reason I will refrain from using the drill has nothing to do with my devotion ...

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polmaise wrote:
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In the US ,'Shoe shiners' are not so common ,but then 'Self employment' may be more so.
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Hunting with a flusher in all terrain in all wind directions would require knowledge of 'reading a dog' for sure.

Now you have it! It's in the read that makes all the difference.

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Thanks for sharing that. I like this bit: "Dogs are increasingly being over assisted in this and led from one side of their beat to the other with handlers doing almost as much quartering as their dog." That's one I've never seen over here but I guess that's the consequence of people training their...

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I have seen the cones/posts/barrels used before with 'Yard work' when conditioning quartering/pattern. What direction was the wind Chrokeva ? Often this side of the pond an overlay of 'pip' or 'pip-pip' on the turn is used. Works wonders when birds are used though , and a couple of good helpers wit...

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I just love this internet dog training. It really is like doing brain surgery from the waiting room. Do not not know the folks, never had a chance to read the dog at that moment, jest complete strangers are ask How to. and when the response is not the comfortable one the res ponder is made out to be...

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I'll be honest, I hate keeping quail. They're always looking for any excuse not to keep alive. Just establish a decent homing pigeon flock and, when the preserve season ends, you can buy their game bird inventory for cheap to use for shooters. Exactly. +1, Pen raise quail are a bad investment for t...

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Done that and done that and bought the farm. Use to keep Pheasants and pigeons together. and for one summer at least 6 laying hens and pigeons. Depending on the set-up should not be an issue. One thing in my case I did not hold birds for very long I use birds up very quickly. Easily turned my loft o...

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At 2 1/2 years old it seems that if you missed any of the foundation training it will come back and bite you. I am truly humbled by how much effort it takes to train and maintain a trial spaniel. Hoping this time around I am able to get it right :). That there is one Golden nugget :wink: The lady d...

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It can or may be a problem only if the dog swallows and ingest the rocks. Then it could be a life threatening issue.

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I am sure there are many ways to get a spaniel to run a straight line but here are a few videos that Gary Breitbarth did on teaching a spaniel to take a straight line (part two is where he adds cover). I have been working on this with my dog but have not brought it to cover yet. (part I) http://www...

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Bill the situation you describe in your spaniel is quite common in spaniels on this side of the pond as well. And the methods used by UK Spaniel trialers are part of the conditioning that those that train for blinds or some sort of hunt back might employee. Blinds in and of themselves are not that a...

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+1 Agreed! Going deep is what is strive for But the short mark in ,say, a triple is usually the challenge. Upland dogs have the same issues. It is about the conditioning they receive. Though distances are usually much less. The old saying goes something like this that you will hear in training group...

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I'm just very happy that Spaniels have no problems in this area. 30 yrs and pen raised or wild the little dogs handle birds.

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Very Good! Thank-you!

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Greg the same argument could be made for the two republican stances. They say all life is valuable so they oppose abortion (and call themselves pro-life), but then they say the death penalty is justified because those people don't have valuable lives. [/quote] Death penalty has nothing to do with th...

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Well now that looks better. You are becoming the focal point. Balancing the energy is always good!
More folks should include video of the dog working with handler, it just brings much clarity to the situation. Nice work Robt.

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Might there be any more Pics or Vids of the NGDT event?

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:roll: I would find a new owner and then hope for the best!

Nice energy loves his kennel area. You will have fun with that two!!

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Polmaise, I know of this event. Have read and spoke with various contacts, sounds like great fun. How does the selection process work? Obviously there would be lot of pride in being selected from the various locales, England, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. Do the Retriever breeds dominate the program...

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Higgins wrote:Hello Mountaindogs,

Here is a link to a video I did a while ago. It's about handling including controlling range, distance and direction.

https://vimeo.com/104148324

Hope you find it useful.

Brad Higgins
www. HigginsGundogs.com

Very Nice it is called "Hunting to Face"! easy peasy!

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gonehuntin' wrote:Let me also add MG, and it's always tough to add to anything you say, but I don't believe treats will EVER overcome drive.

You can believe it! If treats could over come drive we would all hunt with pigs! and no one in there their right sober mind would say that many of us own pigs..

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Hello Mnaj_springer, Great question. All my clients want the "Flush/Stop" cue added to the other steadiness training that includes stop to flush, steady to flush, honoring, steady to shot, steady to fall, etc. They don't have to use it on every bird contact but it can be very useful in a number of ...

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All, thank you for the advice. I've been on the Lighthouse Kennels website in the past, but that is 3+ hours one way from me. If anyone knows of other pro spaniel trainers or groups in northcentral/ northeast WI, feel free to enlighten me. I'm about 50 miles northeast of Wausau. So if Jason Givens ...

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Skip the planting and the shooting. Break it down to the flush and sit. You can do most of it in the yard by sitting the dog and throwing down a dizzied pigeon about six feet away. Send the dog to flush, and when he sits, fire the blank. If he won't do it in the yard, don't even bother moving to th...

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However............ When planting pigeons he is less than consistent. I've been workign on this at least a month and he isn't the least bit consistent. Unfortunately, a lot of our reps lately have been with me as gunner and handler. Any suggestions on how to improve our progress? After 1 month you ...

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I took my dog to a few nights of trap league when he was a pup to familiarize him with gun shots. Seemed to work pretty well. Occasionally a pup will handle this and be OK but normally it is a recipe for disaster. Dogs need to associate gunshots with something pleasant and not just loud noises that...

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I too like that line. I think with my strict regime-type thinking I may be better suited to labs. For many years I worked as a youth worker, I believe in structure and expectations. My cocker, which luckily is a bit harder than most is still quite soft to be suited to my style. I constantly have to...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhvzKtzSHoA The essence of spaniel work! The 3-legged stool that combines drive, manners and biddabilty. One of best tutorials, and Robert, you have made a number of them, I have seen. If the newby's would train for these standards they and their dogs would have many...

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Zack, everyone who is new to training will not be "qualified" to use an e-collar. You just have to be willing to learn how to use them properly. Working with a mentor, training group, or trainer helps. As for FF, there are other benefits to the process beyond a polished retrieve. What are some of t...

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Zac, PM sent with Penn contacts.

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Nothing wrong with your sources. I assisted James S. putting on a gun dog training workshop a few years back. He did the retriever part of the class on day one, I conducted the upland training portion on day two of the training seminar. Ken Roebuck a UK ex-patriot brought his UK culture to the state...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pas6oIR5bRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcsJKQdpzOE Best luck with your little spaniel. i have a little gurl dog as well. So you'd strongly advise I do the remainder of her training without an e-collar? I've been using the book, "Hup!" and the Training Spaniels t...

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Zack, Lets be careful using the e-collar. You can turn a nice flushing dog into a pointing dog very quickly. Steadiness to wing and shot can be worrisome for the dog that does not have the proper foundation training that if done properly will help the dog make the transition quite easily. YouTube ha...

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Zeta is home for a summer break. A short rest and the then the conditioning will begin for the Amateur All-Age trials and the National Open Champs later this year. The NC's will be held in Ohio. With the grace of God and a fast outfield we may qualify for the National Amateur as well. Looking back o...

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I would shorten the distances. and then add the factor of distance as she develops the confidence in the search command to go farther to be successful.

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Glad You flew out on your private jet Sharon , should have dropped in for tea .(Or was that a different Bill) my apolgies. Nice whenever the term Test and Trial come up in the same conversation confusion generally rules the day. Spaniel trial was in Canada, Bill T participated in a Test in the UK. ...

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It would soon bore you if you won every time out. That is what I'll be saying tomorrow after the test I'm competing in . :roll: Bill T. Bill in some circles winning might be boring but it sure more exciting than the alternative. And today is a new day compare to yesterday :twisted: :twisted: FC CFC...

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No Cigar today in central Ontario for FC CFC Zeta Passed a bird in the 3rd series. when running on edge you could go Yard or go home it is the risk you run. Placements today 1st Tolo Ludwig (cocker) 2nd Tommy Keller 3rd Murphy Manz (cocker) 4th Zachary Wallace Run tomorrow then head for home for a w...

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She's going from strength to strength, well done. Bill T. Bill I think you are wee bit prophetic Zeta is really building some momentum! :D Tearing it up, for sure, gundogguy - congratulations. Question: Will you keep campaigning Zeta for years to come given she's still rather young but already CFC/...

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Trekmoor wrote:She's going from strength to strength, well done.

Bill T.

Bill I think you are wee bit prophetic Zeta is really building some momentum!

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Is there a website where I can get the directions to the trial grounds? Id'd like to see that next weekend. FC CFC Zeta takes a second place in the Sunday trial Heading Erin Ontario for a day off and then prepping for trials there Saturday and Sunday. Been a great weekend here in Fisherville Making...

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Sharon wrote:Isn't that great! Beautiful dog. Where in ON was the Championship ?

Fisherville Ontario, For the win! Zeta runs again today under different judges .

Next weekend Erin Ontario May 21 and 22nd.

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