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ezzy333 wrote:I didn't know field trials are dominated by any one breed.

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Only at the Britt trials b/c they're afraid of competition

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As much and as soon as possible! Once broke they must behave that way on wild birds, running pheasants, etc.

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Only thing I like about it is the hour stakes - really can separate the best of the best.

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No birds??? Bring some bird dogs next time

. Looks fun either way!

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Ran him twice tonight with a 30 min break. No issues

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OK ok - he'll be fine. No need for an x5!

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I would get NutriCal or NutriStat. Give a couple of ounces, tablespoon at a time about ten minutes apart. A tablespoon is a good squeeze of the tube. There are some good water add-ins, but the gel is easier to get in the dog. Thanks - I have NutriCal - didn't know it had that in it. I'll bring it a...

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They're half hour braces. If you're worried, the dog isn't in proper condition. If you do get 90 minutes down time, get the dog up and moving 15/20 minutes before you go. I'd prefer back to back, maybe 5-10 minutes max between. He is in good enough shape, I'd just prefer he rested. Going to be 70+ ...

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Cajun Casey wrote:You might look at a maltodextrin booster instead of fat. If you want fat, I'd go non-animal, like a PBJ sammy.

Can you recommend something with the maltodextrin and how much should I give?

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Bummer - I'll give him a fatty snack and dump water on him - oh well.

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Is there a minimum rest time or braces in between running that the AKC dictates? Got a drawing 2nd to last brace then first brace in the next stake after it. If that last dog busts I'm pretty screwed. I'd prefer at least 90mins of down time for the dog...

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Cajun Casey wrote:Males get used more than females in a given gene pool. Every case I know of where a breed was very nearly trashed was due to popular sire syndrome in breeding.

IMO happening to field vizslas right now

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ezzy333 wrote:Where do you think it fits?

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How about vizslas that are all white on their front and obviously bred to pointers... Cull the really bad ones, keep the mildly obscene ones...

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KwikIrish wrote:Tak- I agree with your show homes comment, I used to be one.

Kudos to you for realizing what these dogs were actually meant to do.

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V-John wrote:
romeo212000 wrote:
My point is your average foot hunter isn't looking for dogs that make 1/2 mile casts.
Don't you think that dogs know the difference between a trial and hunting?

I think it depends on the cover more so than trialing vs. hunting.

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At vizsla nat'l events you do have to qualify at the line conformationally. Mostly keeps out the vizslas with A LOT of white on them. Now I think it should be the other way around... To get a show title your bird dog should have to take some type of test that it knows what a bird is. Somewhere along...

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Well - the little guy did ok. Ran besides it mostly - checked out some objectives on the side. Didn't get more than 20-30 yards out though, mostly to the sides. I guess we'll just keep doing it until he figures it out. Not bad for 14 weeks I guess.

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Explain not quartering I figured setting the speed where he would drift right and left would be better than blasting in a straight line to the front, unless there are birds in that line Fester We run on open grounds, he should be running from objective to objective as fast as possible. Quartering w...

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Fester wrote:Yea leave the 4 wheeler at home for now when he get s a little bigger and hunts to the front quartering you might try it real slow
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Uhhh, he better not be quartering - running hard to the front is more like it.

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My guy is 3.5 mos old now, thinking of trying it. I expect he might just be following now. Should I go slow or encourage him to go in front or for now just get him used to running at that speed?

Any tips for the first time with the puppy?

Thanks!

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Yes, that is the gene for lemon and it is recessive, requiring it to come from both parents to express. However, there could be some other unknown mutation in there, also. The dog that is indicated as a source, from the pedigree, is Heidi's Mighty City Slicker. But, as mentioned, there are LOT of h...

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Sniper John wrote:
bb560m wrote:NW KS last weekend off horseback. Lots of birds pointed and held for flush. 100+ pheasants flushed. Guess you just got to know where they are .

On public?

Not if you want to find birds!

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NW KS last weekend off horseback. Lots of birds pointed and held for flush. 100+ pheasants flushed. Guess you just got to know where they are

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Saw 100+ pheasants this past weekend - you guys need to bring some real bird dogs with you to find them

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I know this is asking a lot, but I happen to be right nearby this while travelling - does anyone have a horse I could ride for a brace or two on Friday (12/7) for this Missouri invitational?

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First time on wild birds with a couple quail finds. 14 weeks old.

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Congrats!

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Great looking dog - congrats.

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nice style there - ditch the wing on string - you don't want a dog looking for birds with its eyes.

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have a 2 yr old vizsla house dog and a 3mo old gsp - the gsp is getting an outside kennel soon.

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Don't say a word, let her chase. It will eventually figure out it cannot catch the birds. Do not shoot any birds unless she holds point and stops chasing. She will realize she only gets birds when she does it right. Did this with my V and he was broke at 15mos old - which I think is pretty young for...

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Holy cow - either your dog passes or it doesn't. Who cares if they plant 5,000 birds, a covey, what's it matter. A broke dog is broke, regardless where the bird is. Calling the AKC... sound like a pita to have at a trial.

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he is here and heel and whoa broke i can Whoa him on birds all day i have not worked with keeping him on whoa after a bird has flushed i was planning on working on getting him steady to wing and shot after the seasons over .but i was wondering witch would be better to teach force force fetching or ...

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Mine was steady first before doing FF - I doubt it matters. If your dog is whoa broke why not say whoa before he takes off after the bird?

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very good advice on young dog and pheasant. 46 yrs hunting pheasants and i had too think back if i ever had dog injured on one? no, i did not but i ruined a few dogs on retrieveing because bird beat up dog with it wings and pecking at eyes. those dogs wanted nothing to do with touching a pheasant a...

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I'm hearing it won't be a great year for CO or western KS. Try near Sterling if you're just doing open access CRP...

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Thanks for all of the replies. It seems the majority think I should let her take a bird out, how do I get this done when this dog will not move her feet even if she hits the bird a couple feet from her? When flushing birds, it sometimes happens that the bird runs and she still won't move until the ...

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Are you whoaing her on the birds?

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Looks more like a 8.05 to me...

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I have to say our Gambles Odyssey Fritz, altho now neutered has pups that tear it up in FT's, NSTRA, UFTA, and NAVHDA....That is a big order, but I feel he has fulfilled it, my male Sam is DC, MH, UT PR1 is currently on his way producing the same... Maverick (Son of Fritz,) is DC, American Field CH...

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ACooper wrote:Perfect Start and Perfect Finish Dvds by Jon and Cindy Hann.

THIS

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aferrer30 wrote:How soon can I start training my Gsp to stand like yours? Also, how can I keep her calm? She is only 8wks and is a ball of craziness...

8 weeks old and your dog isn't broke yet? Seriously, there is no formula, each dog goes at its own pace.

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Take them hunting

. Maybe an enclosed tennis court or baseball/football field? Let them go nuts enclosed...

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I like the Slick stuff, Joker is winning about everything out here it seems and his littermate sister is winning a lot also. All around dog... slick is an all age dog and producer, don't know about anything else... I had a grandson of slick and my little female is slick bred and they could not be m...

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1,000,000% take him!!!!! Wild birds are the best for dogs to learn on. Too close they fly, can't catch them, teaches them where to look too.

Let him go!

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Elkhunter wrote:I like the Slick stuff, Joker is winning about everything out here it seems and his littermate sister is winning a lot also.

All around dog... slick is an all age dog and producer, don't know about anything else...

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Yes it's true.... I think we expected a less hyper dog. He is 5 months old and only had him a week. He is wearing me, my wife, and the 6 year old down. We wish we had a fenced in yard, but we don't. We have a yard, but it's not fenced. My wife told me today it's like we haven't seen each other all ...

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Gamble's Odyssey Fritz, I know he isn't the only dog around that produced pups successful in many venues but he has produced a ton of nice ones. Numerous winners out of multiple females. Also his sire - DC AFC Odyssey's Sam Saint Max has turned out a ton of DCs whose kids have turned out DCs (like ...

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I agree with that - males will bite a bit maybe, mostly growl and make noises. Females will kill each other.

Females go bonkers in the head around their heat cycle too - no thanks!

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ultracarry wrote:Here is a training pic of Ace . The first time I put him in a bird. He was also ranging 100-300 yards for only being with me a week. This guy has soo much bird drive I even blanked some birds for him on our first trip.

Glad I don't field trial in CA - he looks good.

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