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Ahumphers91a

markj wrote:Well keep on doing the database, its like a family tree of sorts.

Didint I read a post about rusty being 1/2 pointer? lol read it on the internets...

Lmao, it has to be true if it's on the internet........

Ahumphers91a

Interesting how you want pedigree information and yet you believe it doesn't matter when trying to produce a quality dog.... Hmmm.... Its doesn't matter too me, I believe a quality dog can come from nothing! I want the info because unlike some people, I study my history....its a hobby. Hmmmmmm........

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Where did you find it Oak?? I know Ken Lynch had it and sent it to me but it was from his database.

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Ken Lynch wrote:PM sent. I have full pedigree.

Thanks, I knew she had to be a Rip Traf Von Bess daughter.

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bigoak wrote:Playne Jayne finished her FC in 1975.I checked the 1975 year book but her owner didn't publish her pedigree.....vern

Dang, thanks for looking though, I really appreciate that.

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Chief_dog wrote:Ken, That pup with the blue collar looking up would look just like his grandpa Chief did at that age if he were liver roan!

Ken has told me some GREAT stories of Chief.....Hopefully Dee will turn out to be 1/4 of what he was

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here is dee, there sister.

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Yes, she and Thalberg's Seagraves Chayne produced FC Tomari's Playne Jayne.
here's the incomplete pedigree i'm trying to finish: http://nextgenerationgermanshorthairs.n ... erations=5

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bigoak wrote:Was she a producer of field champions?....vern

I will look, now I can't remember off hand. I will re post in just a bit, but I believe she produced one fc that I know of.

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ultracarry wrote:Interesting how you want pedigree information and yet you believe it doesn't matter when trying to produce a quality dog....

Hmmm....

Its doesn't matter too me, I believe a quality dog can come from nothing! I want the info because unlike some people, I study my history....its a hobby. Hmmmmmm.....

Ahumphers91a

I don't think AKC offers her pedigree on the Research Pedigree option. When I put her Reg. # in (I got curious and have a large database myself) so I could purchase the online pedigree, the Report came back as I posted it. I am not sure how to even get to the AKC Archives. I had checked the partial...

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Interesting... I expect this one is an import... there are several "von Bess" surnames out there but none as old as this one (1970). Going to check with someone if I can but I expect he will also believe this one to be an import. Report Date: 09/04/2011 THE AMERICAN KENNEL CLUB Complete pedigree in...

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I used to have a huge database, but that was a couple computers ago. Now days, I only look at the first few generations anyway. Its for a little project I was doing for numbers, when left blank it kinda is a waste of time. But your right, also I like to look at the foundation as well though. I have...

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I meant listen to ken when he says pedigrees don't matter. He's titled dogs and gotten dogs close (as an amateur) . Ken has bred dogs for many many years, and yes take ur trainers advice. Not saying trainers are always right but pretty close most of the time

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Nothing....anyone? I know some people on here have pedigree databases like mysel
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Youreally should listen to ken. He's titled his dog on his own, no trainers, and has been breeding gsp's since the 70's. Just saying, first hand exp. is better than second hand.

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Thats weird for only having on for 2.5 hours. Do you have the short probes or long ones on?? I know short or long my dog has issues when left on too long (couple days, BARK COLLAR). Just keep your dog's neck area cleaned as well with warm soapy water and allow the area to dry before re-introducing t...

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Thanks, yeah I was hopng too not have to pay for it...lol. I have tried world pedigrees and paw village and even a couple others I know are correct, but turns of nothing. Now if I were to assume, I bet her sire is fc rip traf von bess, but can't be positive in that assumption.

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birddogger wrote:All I have to say about this is :roll: :roll: :roll: and I hope Jersey finds a good home.

Charlie

Thumbs up to the last 3 posts!!!

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Anyone know of this females pedigree from the 70's: Heils Fritzie Rip v Bess

Thanks

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is NOT an issue with any of her littermates so is obviously NOT an issue with her bloodline Just because there isn't these traits shown in her litter mates, doesn't mean it's not an issue with the bloodline. I for one am sorry, I just don't agree. Dog's are extension's of there owners and should be ...

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Question, how long is the collar left on? I noticed when I use to leave the collars on the dog's for barking in the kennel, they would get them. You have to make sure you keep the probes and the are cleaned really well when using often.

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Just my opinion, and nothing towards Ruth, but like said earlier...8 month old pup's are like teenagers, and I just think Ruth is to passive to put her foot down and knock some sense into this rebellious teen....JMO, and no offense.

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She doesn't look very big, maybe 6-8?

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Some people think they can hide if they don't post where they are from. Truth is I can find your address, phone number, picture of your house, who all lives there, and the address you post from and if there is anyone else posting from that address.. Not a lot of reason to try and hide anymore. Ezzy...

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Ron R wrote:
Ahumphers91a wrote:Yeah, kinda sucks when you cant see where people are located and have to PM just for a location.
Sorry but your city should also be included with your state. It makes things even easier.

Your right, never noticed. Have to fix it

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I would say after the first ten post's someone has to add their location. I believe that is the number to be approved before you can post without approval. This will allow folks the safety of anonymity to some extent. After that you would have to add the area your from to continue posting. This wou...

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congrats!!

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We need to remember that this is a puppy in his first trial .I don't think a tracker or scout will be needed. Highly unlikely pup will be out a mile on point. The time allowed is 20 minutes if I remember correctly. A bell should be just fine. :) PS I would never use a bell in a derby or shooting do...

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There is a bird dog forum for my state. Have you tried google??

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Talked to the vet I have planning on doing the collection. Seem's like a deal to me. 325 for analization, and freezing (145 if not good). It's cheaper in other states I have found, but going with the one in my state (UTAH).

Thanks

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Tracker is more for piece of mind but we can't use them... it's my understanding that as soon as you ask for the receiver you're dq-ed, but at least you know where your dog is... $4 Turkey bell that I can use all the time v. $600 super cool gps system that I can't use in competition. For now, I'm g...

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I have science degrees, but genetics was never a strong point for me. I just know a lot of the experienced breeders tend to not pass a bad trait along. Did the litter of pups have any problem with sperm etc that you know of? I don't blame you for wanting to continue the legacy of a great dog.[/quote...

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Thought you uppety Deutsche Kurzhaar and Drahthaar ,or GSP and GWP for us poor white trash folks, took extreme steps to prevent this sort of stuff. Looks like it didn't work this time. Where is your precious registry in the "Old Country" now? :D Now yall see how us English Pointer owners feel every...

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He's not a dud, just going to have him collected and wanted him to be on his top game lol. A dog needs that just aboiut as much as it needs a probiotic supplement. Our dogs are babied and coddled beyond anyones wildest dreams of a few years back and then we decide they need supplements. Can't belie...

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There's probably products that would be helpful, but if the dog is a dud, why breed with him? :roll: I'm sure your dog is a great dog, but when I said "dud," I was only referring to his breeding ability. Most would say you don't want to possibly pass that trait along. He's been bred once back in 20...

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What are you going to do when the dog goes on point...sory, thinks bells are a waste.

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He's not a dud, just going to have him collected and wanted him to be on his top game lol.

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I was looking and found two products, and was wondering if anyone had any experience with any of the two? They are for male fertility in our stud dog's. Here's the links: http://www.dogsupplementsonline.com/dognutrition-vitalmale.html http://www.poochandmutt.com/breeders/fertility-supplement-for-mal...

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The biggest thing is if the dog eats and then drinks a TON of water before, that's when torsion comes into play. Like I said I put a female of mine a while back down because of torsion, first time I had heard of this. I kinda had the same routine and she was 7 years old when this happened. It's not...

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The biggest thing is if the dog eats and then drinks a TON of water before, that's when torsion comes into play. Like I said I put a female of mine a while back down because of torsion, first time I had heard of this. I kinda had the same routine and she was 7 years old when this happened. It's not ...

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although everyone has the right to do what they please, i ask why? we arent trying to start new breeds as what we have is sufficient, why do this? how is this going to benefit a breed that already has wirehaired versions that can do what ur trying to accomplish, this takes a nicely bred shorthair an...

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Yah, hard to know what to consider "Rusty bred". This dude is the baddest, toughest, AA GSP I've seen in several years, goes back to Rusty 4x over like what, 30 years :lol: - tons of wild bird miles, finds his fair share and more, physical freak, the AA full tilt same litter brother to my Trixie wh...

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Drifter Saver wrote:There are three grandsons of Rusty within 30 miles of my house here in Michigan. One sired by Blue Earth Rex, one sired by Dandi's Runaway Rusty and one by Shoulder Strap Rusty.

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Ahumphers91a

If I were to put a truck together, I would put a cummins with an allison and ford ruuning gear (chassis etc.)

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can we all say "Cummins" Inline cylinders equal more Torque.... Haha, fords v6 eco boost has it beat, watch the torture test on you tube and I have put 300 thousand miles on a dodge too :) 3000 or 300,000....I have put 350,000 on my 1996 12 valve. Sold it, still runs like a champ. still gets about ...

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Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:NO WE CAN'T

LMAO

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can we all say "Cummins"

Inline cylinders equal more Torque....

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Post a picture so we can all see for judgement.

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So I have seen this dog on pedigree's many time's. Leighton's Ace Mona mother, now some people have this dog as an AFC and some people don't have this dog titles at all on pedigree's WHAT IS THE DEAL??

Thanks

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