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- Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:30 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: An animal's value. Ethics perspective.
- Replies: 109
- Views: 20963
Re: An animal's value. Ethics perspective.
Christians do not make up a majority of the world's population yes, they do. Dogs are not equal to humans,no animal is, otherwise that species would be ruling the planet.God/nature/evolution has provided this planet with resources,to my knowledge,only humans have been able to tap into these resourc...
- Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:58 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Any Lawyers out there?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 7207
Re: Any Lawyers out there?
My suggestion would be not to pay the last months rent and have him take you to landlord/tenant court to collect. Judges hate greedy landlords. All you need to tell the judge is that you are willing to pay a fair price for repairs,require the landlord to present the itemized bill for approval to the...
- Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:28 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
- Replies: 112
- Views: 31885
Re: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
Black came from the Arkwright Pointer way back in the begining. I'm of the opinion that breeders should know the history of the dogs they breed. There have been black GSPs for over 20 years,all GSPs date back to the DK. Unless outcrossed to another breed, all GSP breeders are breeding German dogs. D...
- Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:22 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
- Replies: 112
- Views: 31885
Re: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
Black is only a consideration if you breed for the ring.
- Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:16 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
- Replies: 112
- Views: 31885
Re: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
Performance titles,conformation titles
you're begining to sounding very German
every dog should prove form and ability before being bred
better for the breed and better for the breeder
you're begining to sounding very German
every dog should prove form and ability before being bred
better for the breed and better for the breeder
- Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:41 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
- Replies: 112
- Views: 31885
Re: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
von zepp,
you're a breeder,right?
Stop while you're ahead, you're looking less and less knowledgable and experienced
you're a breeder,right?
Stop while you're ahead, you're looking less and less knowledgable and experienced
- Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:32 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
- Replies: 112
- Views: 31885
Re: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
Color is only a color. It has no bearing on health or function.
- Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:55 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Dog Bit - Now What?
- Replies: 110
- Views: 34501
Re: Dog Bit - Now What?
Justifying can be dangerous.
- Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:58 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
- Replies: 112
- Views: 31885
Re: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
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- Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:26 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Dog Bit - Now What?
- Replies: 110
- Views: 34501
Re: Dog Bit - Now What?
The dog is a basket case. Can't believe you justified all the behavior and now are wondering what to do with this dog now that it bit your daughter. Face reality.Denial will possible change your lives for the worse. You're willing to risk your daughter's well being for a dog. A dog. Give it back to ...
- Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:59 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
- Replies: 112
- Views: 31885
Re: GSP DQ faults bad bites versus color
The majority of ,if not all, replys are from upland hunters giving the appearance that the need for a perfect bite is overlooked or not known. A weaker jaw is useless for a dog that needs to carry 10lbs +. DKs are eliminated from breeding if they are missing certain teeth. The Germans did not want w...
- Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:16 pm
- Forum: Training
- Topic: Lazy on blind retrieve
- Replies: 10
- Views: 3174
Re: Lazy on blind retrieve
EVAN GRAHAM
SmartWork Series
SmartWork Series
- Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:13 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Rain and Poop
- Replies: 22
- Views: 7836
Re: Rain and Poop
Red,
that's b/c you have a DK
that's b/c you have a DK
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:00 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
My concern is whether or not FTs really are producing a better bird dog.
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:18 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
Used under what circumstances?
And a scout?
And a scout?
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:13 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
Yeah, that must be it.Maybe my dogs has a better nose than yours and will stand them off and not make them feel pressured
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:12 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
No, not bad.
if the dogs and hunters are benefitting from the difference, I'm for it.
if the dogs and hunters are benefitting from the difference, I'm for it.
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:08 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
What????if my dog is doing their job then the birds will be there.
You don't hunt enough.Birds won't flush if the dog isn't right on top of them.
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:07 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
I know this is a loaded question Let's run with it,anyway. :) Why is it allowed? Can we talk about scouts? In vdog venues my dog can't wear a GPS and can't have anyone looking out for it. I don't have a horse to sit higher to see my dog better or to get to my dog faster. Difference,for sure between...
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:49 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
I'm sure it was merely missed in all the other hype.
What venue allows the use of a GPS?
What venue allows the use of a GPS?
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:47 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
You missed the point. Are you attempting to discredit me? I didn't say I run with a gun. Did I? The point is, it's easy to close the gap on a 300' dog than a 1,200' dog. I trust my dogs to handle the birds correctly. If the dogs make a mistake there are more birds and the dogs will be better the nex...
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:21 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
Is that your response?
That I shouldn't run with a loaded gun?
Now, that's too funny.
That I shouldn't run with a loaded gun?
Now, that's too funny.
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:12 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
100 yards is 300',400 yards is 1,200'.
Do you know what shotgun range is?
I can run to close the gap on 100yards but wouldn't stand a chance at 400 yards.
Do you know what shotgun range is?
I can run to close the gap on 100yards but wouldn't stand a chance at 400 yards.
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:07 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
I can find my way in the mountains with a map and compass and through the streets of San Francisco with a map. I don't know why anyone would ever even invent let alone offer for sale or purchase a GPS. What were they thinking?! And this is intended to prove what? Has nothing to do with hunting dogs.
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:46 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
Pointless discussion.
What venue allows GPS?
What venue allows GPS?
- Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:31 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
There were, that's why a GPS was fitted to dogs.
If the dogs are as good as proclaimed, why the need for a GPS?
If the dogs are as good as proclaimed, why the need for a GPS?
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:52 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
Ryan gun dogs,
I'm not concerned that much with range,altho it may appear that I am.
I am concerned with breeding dogs who range with less focus and desire to find.
I'm not concerned that much with range,altho it may appear that I am.
I am concerned with breeding dogs who range with less focus and desire to find.
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:48 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
slistoe,
BRAVO!!!
BRAVO!!!
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:32 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Ok, you said it.
Trialing is NOT hunting.
It's about winning. The attributes required to win a FT are not the same as effeciency during the hunt.
Trialing is NOT hunting.
It's about winning. The attributes required to win a FT are not the same as effeciency during the hunt.
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:29 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
von zepp, I've never field trialed. It was posted that only one dog pointed a bird at aFT, That dog won. Where are the birds that only one dog pointed? Maybe the birds are NOT in likely cover?Likely cover that is for a FT dog? Why aren't the dog's searches productive enough to find birds? This is no...
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:09 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
WHAT? Look - a dog has a NOSE. If you want to use that boat example, you would need to include a fish finder. I don't mind a dog searching likely cover but they better not pass birds along the way. Otherwise they are not producing game for the gun. Style can not trump effeciency. Any dog who passes ...
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:32 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
This has become aggressive/competitive. If someone is incapable of debating,don't post. Where did you pull that silliness about running past 100s of yards of cover from Youtube shows several videos of dogs at the break away who are passing cover that if it were a hunting situation should be searched...
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:53 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Cn you explain what a judge is looking for in the break away?
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:27 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Can you explain what a break away is?
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:24 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Foot Hunting/trial range
- Replies: 113
- Views: 25583
Re: Foot Hunting/trial range
First,let's be clear. NOT every dog with run will appropriately shorten up in thicker cover and NOT every shorter range dog will appropriately open up in sparser cover. For a dog with run to shorten up is more taught than inbred. For a dog to open up is inbred, it's called desire. Too much desire an...
- Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:45 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Got me thinking
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7912
Re: Got me thinking
One thing I have noticed is the owners of the boot lickers are quite happy with their dogs and it is the people who trial find them to be a problem. And if the dog runs big the people who have them are quite happy with them but it is the people with the bootlickers that find them a problem. Does it...
- Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:07 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Got me thinking
- Replies: 28
- Views: 7912
Re: Got me thinking
Windshieldwiper,bootlicker????
whose dogs are you referring to?
A methodical,focused search of the terrain, seeking objectives and likely cover is what a good foot hunter's dog does.
Now, if you're hunting sparse terrain, the dog would mainly seek objectives.
whose dogs are you referring to?
A methodical,focused search of the terrain, seeking objectives and likely cover is what a good foot hunter's dog does.
Now, if you're hunting sparse terrain, the dog would mainly seek objectives.
- Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:35 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Again if you hate it so much go get a show queen and see how she does in the field Is this your take on bird dogs? FT or show queen? You need to get out more. FT dogs are upland specialist. To perfrom as a specialist a dog needs to fill certain criteria. Criteria a foot hunting/versatile does not n...
- Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:41 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: If you were a betting man/woman
- Replies: 67
- Views: 21233
Re: If you were a betting man/woman
Some of what Birddogz is saying: Most people don't hunt off of horseback Most people who hunt in the U.S. do NOT require the level of independence that AA dogs exhibit they did not mold easily to the way the average person hunts I had to reel them in, and it took a ton of effort. Why not start with ...
- Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Not sure his nationality had anything to do with it.Like I said he was a Scot.
I know many locals where I am who hunt all year long.
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:21 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Finished does not imply more effecient or more style.what is a finished dog to you?
Out of curiosity?
If effeciency and style is being at the top of the game
what pitch is used to sell all the FT wash-outs?
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:49 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
If your measure is to push the limits of what is possible in memory, marking, distance, terrain - every conceivable aspect of retrieving, I train to T, TT , walking baseball and water force. Does an effecient hunting dog need more than that? what is the purpose of the VC then if it is not intended ...
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:59 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
Garrison wrote: But no VC is going to track like a Bloodhound, clear a field like a Pointer and retrieve like A Lab at the top of their respective games. NAVHDA VCs don't track, they are a foothunter's companion, they should have a soild retrieve. What is it about a retreiver that folks believe a g...
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:39 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Other good dog forums
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3340
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:37 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
What I am saying is labs are bred to a higher level of retrieving ability than vdogs and so a well bred retriever should perform better than a well bred Vdog. A well bred vdog will have just as much retrieve desire. Marking ability,hands down, goes to retreivers. No one need require their vdog to p...
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:08 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
No it is not, but you will always be playing catch up, the best lab has more momentum, more drive, more affinity for water, handles easier, trains easier, marks better, handles the cold better then the best V-Dog... It is never enough, why would we not alway's strive for a more capable dog? Getting...
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:49 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
am saying if you take 1000 well bread labs and put them against 1000 well bread V-Dogs, give them identical training and exposure Have you ever been to a retriever field trial and saw what they are expected to do? Is it being said that vdogs can not be trained,don't have the momentum,don't have the...
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:40 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
In what respect?the labs will come out far and away on top when it comes to waterfowl
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:24 pm
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
I also have a V dog, I like him but he doesn't hold a candle to a well bread lab on waterfowl that has had good training and as much hunting experience as your dogs. Your V-Dog doesn't either. You are speaking for yourself,right? Are you comparing a lesser bred and untrained vdog to :"a well bread ...
- Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:50 am
- Forum: General Chat
- Topic: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
- Replies: 506
- Views: 123604
Re: Style v Efficiency, and or other arguments that divide
FTs were not designed to produce versatile dogs.
FTs were designed to produce upland specialists. Seek and point.
FTs were designed to produce upland specialists. Seek and point.