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Yawallac

No plastic but the leather is pretty thick. Thought about covering it with something but mine is already scratched up because I use it everyday.

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Yawallac

Shadow, I needed something that I could hand to a judge and not worry that it would get lost. I was using all sorts of contraptions; bottle holders, camera bags, tote pockets, that just weren't working for me. Now I'll be able to simply hook this to the judges saddle and collect it at the end of the...

Yawallac

where do you attach it

...to my saddle.

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Yawallac

I bought this one last week and I really like it.

http://shop.dogsunlimited.com/item.asp? ... dp&d=1&b=1

Yawallac

Great news Vagas! Hopefully he'll look like this again very soon!!

Yawallac

The Cover Dog trials are run on wild grouse in the grouse woods. The only difference is that they don't shoot the birds.

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Yawallac

Geez Vagas, that's nasty! Where was he running? It's been so cold I can't believe any snakes are out.

Yawallac

Ryman,

The Miller dogs are starting to make an impact in the grouse woods Cover Dog trials.

By the way, I went to Montrose HS, ever here of Montrose?

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Yawallac

Things like this remind us of what a dangerous game our dogs play. Prayers for your boy have been sent.

Yawallac

...because the dogs in red were proven producers who had thrown some really good pups.

Ya missed a couple!

Yawallac

Question 2 - The judge doesn't care. He'll look at you as if you have 3 eyes if you tell him.

BTW, so will your dog!

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Yawallac

Craig, The beauty is that you can take most any "line" of Pointer and do anything you want with it. It has much more to do with the owner than it does the dog. Your dog's sire is by HTA bred to a Miller female. Your dog's dam is 100% Rebel (Dbl Whippoorwill's Rebel). That means that his pedigree is ...

Yawallac

ckirsch,

If I'm not mistaken, you're NAVHDA UT Prize I Pointer has a fair amount of Miller in him, doesn't he?

So maybe you should tell us if FT bred Pointers make good hunting dogs!!

Yawallac

I have watched Hts but never FTs as we have next to nothing in my area.

Actually, there are field trial grounds in Broome County, just east of you and in Baldwinsville, NY, to your north. The circuit will be heading back up there in late spring. You could go and watch some nice dogs run.

Yawallac

One of the things I like about NAVHDA is the fact that there is no breed prejudice...

Oh yeah!?! NAVHDA test a Pointer and tell me that!

Let's look at the "Motherside" - if you will. What recent (within 2-3 generations) b@#$hes are producing with Miller studs? Here are a few...

Go Boy dams.

Yawallac

Pntr, I haven't seen him in person yet and that will need to happen before I use him, but from all accounts, he's a great representation of the White dogs and his paper lines up perfectly with my stuff. My avatar's dam is by Guard Rail and a full sister to SLN. There is a picture or two of him on th...

Yawallac

South's Late Night - (Miller's White Powder x Wiggin's Miss Sammie)

Yawallac

I guess I am making a mistake of trying to compare them to GSP'S.

Charlie, my avatar has a NAVHDA NA 107 Prize II and he's on George Tracy's Shooting Dog string.

If you train them like a GSP, they won't know the difference.

Yawallac

with one being a son of go boy to a daughter of honky tonk gigolo SCKWEST, I almost mentioned Woody when you wrote about the Fiddler influence. He has a very interesting pedigree IMO. He is a beautiful animal and I have been trying to figure out how to work him into our program. He would bring Nell...

Yawallac

i think if you look at wiggin's miss sammie and wiggin's twist n shout while they do both have some go boy in them, they have more miller in them than anything else. Obviously. My point was that as a Motherline breeder, I find it very interesting to study the bottoms of pedigrees as well as the top...

Yawallac

Big Dave, I for one am posting this all in support of what Ferrill has done and think he should be thanked!

I agree.

Yawallac

I second the choice of Stylish Elhew Phantam. Elhew Phantom - I love that dog! He produced a lot of great dogs including the National Shooting Dog Champion in 2004, Spirit's Blaze, a PF. Mr. McGoo is of course out of the famous blue hen, Elhew Kiwi, a Guard Rail daughter. Since my Sarah is out of an...

Yawallac

I'm a Motherline breeder and when I look at many of the biggest winning Miller dogs today, I see ...Nell. :wink: Wiggin's Miss Sammie is a renowned blue hen producer of White dogs ...Nell. Wiggin's Twist n Shout ...Nell. obviously w/ In the Shadow - Joe Shadow Again, most say Joe Shadow, but I say ....

Yawallac

DC Timberdoodles Lancers Answer

Back when I was a GSP guy, I competed against that dog. Beautiful solid liver male!

I just found this page. If you're a GSP guy/gal, how cool are these pics!?!?

EDIT: Oops! forgot the link!

http://www.gspca.org/Awards/HOF/dogs.html

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Yawallac

I am expecting my first litter and some recent discussions have come up about things to have on hand for the whelping and some things to do prior to whelping. Congrats! Having puppies is a lot of fun and very rewarding. One of the most important things is to keep the pups warm. If their body temper...

Yawallac

Now that's a BIRDDOG!! Very nice! http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/redhotroxi/IMG_0649two.jpg EDIT: No wonder! I just looked at her pedigree and I knew this dog's (Indian Brook's Autumn) daddy VERY WELL!! His name was Woodland's Lord Hanschen. He was the GSP breed's very first MH and a multi...

Yawallac

I prefer Pointers ...but who didn't know that!

Setters are the classic grouse dog, but Pointers have been doing very well in the cover dog trials the last few years. ...and you don't have to spend the entire night pulling burdocks out of a Pointer!

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Yawallac

Yawallac

It appears to be over at 13. 8F 5M. All liver and white with very clean bodies. Great looking litter. Momma and pups are resting comfortably.

Yawallac

She must have overheard my plans for a c-sec today, because she decidied to get started on her own ....10 and counting.

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Neil,

I met Shawn at the GA Championship. He's a nice guy. What also struck me, was his string of Elhew bred dogs. I'm not used to seeing so many beautiful dogs on one string!

Yawallac

If you knew you were gonna do C-sex why bother doing the xray?? Tsk, tsk, tsk...breaks one of the big rules of medicine - if you are not going to do anything with the result of the test, don't do the test. The REASON we did the xray was to determine whether we were going to go natural or c-sec. :ro...

Yawallac

Thanks knine, that's great information. I have had such little success trying to bottle feed pups that I have given up even trying. I will try your suggestions. Great post!

Yawallac

When Sarah had 14, she divided them in half and fed them in shifts. The vet recommended marking them to ensure that they all get fed. I've never had any success bottle feeding pups. It seems that I usually drown them!

Yawallac

...just to tired to push anymore or got one maybe two stuck in the ol'pipe line. Rich, Great point and because of the size of the litter we are going to do an elective c-section on Tuesday. That's the main reason we x-rayed her. She got enormous and I knew that the initial estimate of "8" was WAY O...

Yawallac

So Ross how many did the vet say you were going to have and how comfortable did they feel with that number? I personally have found its just better use of my money to wait until I think they are done having pups then run them into the vet and have them x-ray. With my luck,,,,, I go in have them sho...

Yawallac

Put me on the list for a black and white, always a chance!!!!! Not possible, they are both liver and white. She'll have liver and white or lemon and white or maybe an all white, but she can not have black and white or orange (black nose) and white. I will buy all the pups that have a liver spot at ...

Yawallac

I'll give away all the black and white pups.

Yawallac

Craig,

Most of the GR litters have produced 5-6 pups with the single largest ever at 9. Gene gets second overall pick so he was pretty excited yesterday when I spoke to him.

Yawallac

Joey was a smaller male about 45-48lbs but well perportioned.

No 'but' about it, that is the desired size as far as I'm concerned. As long as they have good bone, which he does ...and there is no doubt that he was Elhew bred.

Beautiful animal Howie.

Yawallac

Ted, you crack me up! :lol: Charlie, I hope they all make it but there are bound to be a couple of weaker pups with so many and I don't have another female with pups young enough to slip some in (I do that often). I'll do my best to help Sarah sort them out. Her 14 pup litter was amazing in that she...

Yawallac

Hey Howie, where the heck did Joey come from!? He's beautiful!!

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knine,

That's exactly how I see it too.

(I have no idea what the heck Tak is looking at!?!?!?!)

Yawallac

I bet they will be mostly white.

I sure hope so!

Yawallac

She will have 15.

9 Females
6 Males

Can you give me the color breakdown?

Yawallac

Here is the full size version. I'm seeing more spines!

http://www.caladenkennels.com/gallery/s ... llsize.jpg

Craig, elective c-sec on Tuesday.

Yawallac

Start counting!!

Yawallac

Ron, No offense taken. All fair questions and I'll glady answer them. Ross, are these pups more novolties than anything else. $5000 a for a pup that can only eat and poop is rediculouse. A lot of people knew about the breeding and we didn't have intentions of selling the pups so I put a high price o...

Yawallac

There was a mix-up at the juice bank and your dog has Great Dan pups in her! At least half that is.... My vet is a reproduction specialist and she is doing another c-sec the same day, of Bulldog pups!! I said please don't mix them up in the maternity ward!! I mean, how could you tell them apart!?!?...

Yawallac

Spoke with the vet and I'm taking her for the x-ray in the AM. If there are a lot (which sure seems the case) I've decided to elective c-sec them out on Tues. Tak, surgical AI. We put the semen directly on the eggs three days after ovulation. The semen was only 40% motility after thaw. I was worried...

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