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Elkhunter

Ezzy dont think that I am! :D That is basically unheard of in the pointer/setter world. I literally think its a Vdog/AKC thing. Also if I put the hard work to accomplish great things on my dog, I can name him whatever I want. Guaranteed you can buy a Shadow Oak Bo pup today and name him whatever the...

Elkhunter

Don't really understand your thinking here you do get to name the Dog right behind the kennel name which I think is standard practice. What's the big deal? you probably bought the Dog due to reputation of the kennel and pedigree. If the kennel name is not on the registered name how due you track pe...

Elkhunter

You Versatile guys always make buying a puppy difficult!

You can buy a Shadow Oak Bo pup today and they would let you name it whatever you would like!

Could name it Shadow's Poodle Princess for all they care!

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Scott some burn through dogs, pounding a square peg in a round hole and blaming the "dog" or the "breeding". And keep culling dogs looking for that unicorn of a puppy. And heck if your not trialing and just hunting, not that hard to find a solid hunting dog. Especially a pointer! Attend a few CH tri...

Elkhunter

Was the insult saying they're not super dogs and that they aren't a hundred times better than everyone elses dogs? Not exactly my idea of an insult. Have u seen the statistics of birds found at this years trial on a well groomed giant preserve? I think you could have took good hunting dogs with as ...

Elkhunter

Glad to hear that Neal, I probably would've culled your 2 dogs then if they weren't as good as hundreds of dogs that you seen run. Obviously I haven't run with a first class dog, you have no idea what I've run with. I have run with a multi time shooting dog champion, and AA champion that has defeat...

Elkhunter

No one has mentioned the collar to "run down a dog" The collar is used to make corrections at a distance immediately on an untethered animal. In my case always after a long process of behavioral shaping and overlaying the collar on cues taught at the end of a lead. The" running down" talk comes int...

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It amazes me how many people know so little about e collars and their use.

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polmaise wrote:
Elkhunter wrote:My dog is usually 400-500+ yards away, not gonna catch him.
Nope!....
Neither am I .
Hope you catch him soon. :roll:

Dont need to, thats why I have a shock collar!

Elkhunter

My dog is usually 400-500+ yards away, not gonna catch him.

Elkhunter

I cannot imagine "running" down my dog to correct behavior....

I would never catch him.

Elkhunter

Not concerned with anything, I dont feel that LD is the biggest problem facing the breed. And stating that significantly over plays what the actual gene is, yes infected dogs are horrible. But there are a lot more concerns facing the breed than LD. I am sure there will be more recessive genes down t...

Elkhunter

IMO opinion this is the worst health problem in our breed(GSP) right now. Seriously? What about lines with cancer that kill hundreds of GSP's each year. Kidney disease etc? LD effects a very very very small portion of the GSP breed, and with responsible breeding it can be eliminated. But the hyster...

Elkhunter

This is a question because i am ignorant on this subject, How does a judge score a dog in a released trial as opposed to a wild bird trial ? Is a find at an objective the dog goes to and has a find at a wild bird trial scored differently as a find in a released bird trial in an unlikely or haphazar...

Elkhunter

In a throw down trial I would place ground application over number of finds any day. I have seen dogs that go to all the right places that they would find wild birds and go birdless, all the while their brace mate is in the horse path pointing birds like crazy. Obviously the planter is the problem, ...

Elkhunter

Absolutely, not too worried how they do as a derby. He is killing it as a broke dog so I am happy.

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My pointer as a derby went birdless almost every time. He was always on the edges, never in the path. Yet his 8 month of old brace mate had 6 finds in the path. He won, I did not place.

Elkhunter

There is a lot of luck involved, but the birds move quite a bit. I drew course 2 at our CH this fall, we run on three courses. I ran on the last day, so two braces of dogs had ran through my course before I ran. We still got lucky and dug up a find on some sharpies to take RU.

Lot of good dogs left!

Elkhunter

Most of my trials are wild bird CH's , so its not over till its over! Especially when bird work is at a premium, ya never know what will happen. OK I do understand that. BUT, if a judge asks me to pick up my dog because I am out of contention, I do not turn to him and say thanks but I paid $ABC amo...

Elkhunter

I think that you are helping both judges and the other handlers if you pick up. If your not winning anything and you pick up,the judge can then watch the other dog which may be in contention. This will be helpful when the judges are discussing placements because both judges did see at least some of...

Elkhunter

I don't know. As a new amateur without a ton of experience, I don't see any reason to leave a dog down if it's not getting anything done, especially in a 1hr trial or championship. Sure, you pay your entry fee, but you practice outside of competition. With that said, as an amateur I think it's also...

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I just docked mine at 50% to be safe!

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Over in Cal there are a couple judges that if a newer handler and dog are not doing good they will take that person and help them through the brace. Was very refreshing to see Micheal Vaz and Wayne Hale do this. I have watched judges just ride off leaving these newer people. It is amazing how just ...

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Well, based on your responses, I think we'll be good to go. Hunted him the last couple days of the quail season here (6 months old) with several other dogs, he was always moving to the front and didn't really know what he was doing. He is not much into horseplay, so I don't think we'll have that is...

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Well, based on your responses, I think we'll be good to go. Hunted him the last couple days of the quail season here (6 months old) with several other dogs, he was always moving to the front and didn't really know what he was doing. He is not much into horseplay, so I don't think we'll have that is...

Elkhunter

Very hard to get picked up in a puppy, mainly its like herding cats. Unless he is attacking/bumping his bracemate you will be fine.

Elkhunter

Good luck Tyler! Thanks! I co own both with Matt. Tac and Jax... Jax just placed fourth in a 39 dog stake last weekend. Not too bad for 18 months. Five finds (2 covey finds). We dont start till end of March, then its Idaho for Region 9 AAA and then Montana for some classics! Throwing my stub tails ...

Elkhunter

Good luck Tyler!

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I was wondering what was out their in the northwest. I have a bitch I would like to breed around July and am starting to look now. Preference would be to a titled sire. I just do not know what is out their or where I could start my search. Talk to Doug Favor, lives right by you. Has some of the nic...

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I agree and maybe they should go back to the good old days when there was an AKC trial on each end with Region 12 sandwiched in the middle. The AKC trials used to be 150 to 200+ dogs and Region 12 ran every stake. The old format used to attract 5 or more pros and this year Region 12 had 1 pro. It u...

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Maybe they should stop running the amateur stakes during the middle of the week and they would probably get more interest. In The Field they advertised the ASD starting on a Tuesday???????

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horizon wrote:I've decided what I'm gonna do. Thanks for all the advice though.

Your welcome.

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Ya I have never heard of Horizons GSP's either until today. Take the $1000 and move on, as was mentioned you would never get that much anyway! Unless you are breeding some super rare frozen semen that no one else has access to I dont see how your "program" is being stolen. What dogs has your "progra...

Elkhunter

I love mine, I also have two pointers and love them to.

For a flat out hunting dog, I would take my GSP any day of the week.

Elkhunter

I prefer AF myself and I really enjoy the wild bird CH in my area.

I would run AKC if it was active here, but it is not.

But if I had to choose, I would choose AF over AKC every time.

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I think the amount of carriers being bred is very very very very small. I was having a conversation about this today, and I see literally dozens and dozens of litter postings from dogs that have done absolutely nothing in their lives being bred. Not trialing etc, but not even hunting the dogs, just ...

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Wild chuks

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Brooks Carmichael wrote:I heard today they are going to try to get through eight braces. But, it has gotten very cold and windy. Dogs were having trouble getting around. Hopefully will know more later.

How cold was it? It would have to be pretty cold to prevent a GSP from hunting for an hour!

Elkhunter

If you test the litter and it has carriers couldn't the breeder at least in the AKC registration just sell them on a limited registration? Sure the owner of the dog could breed it anyway, but the litter could not be registered. If you sold pups that were not tested from carrier/non carrier pairing ...

Elkhunter

I agree with Doug, it takes a ton of effort and time and MONEY to do it the right way. I knew who were carriers before they left, insured that the people who bought them understood what a carrier was and the responsibility that it entails. One of the females is already spayed who was a carrier, Doug...

Elkhunter

I bred to a carrier last spring, had 9 pups. 3 were carriers and 6 non carriers. All pups doing great!

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I have pointers and GSP's. I get em out once or twice a week to hunt for a day. They seem to do just fine with that, I let em run around the backyard during the day. They mostly just sleep though.

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I agree Ted that arrogance bugs me!

That's why I will never buy from a "breeder"! I feel more comfortable buying from someone who is active in what interests me. Which is hunting and trialing. Or just breed my own, which I like even better.

Elkhunter

Doesn't sound like the pigeon's to me. Some dogs do get to where they couldn't care less about the pigeons but that doesn't make them sticky. If it was the pigeons, they'd either just stop and stand there when they find them or just turn away. Explain, I dont understand what the point your trying t...

Elkhunter

I cant hardly run my Pointer in "training set ups" anymore. As soon as we get there and stake him out and cut him loose he just snakes around and points every freaking bush. He knows why we are there and it just bugs me, so I wait till the chukars pair up near me and run him on those. Can usually g...

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I cant hardly run my Pointer in "training set ups" anymore. As soon as we get there and stake him out and cut him loose he just snakes around and points every freaking bush. He knows why we are there and it just bugs me, so I wait till the chukars pair up near me and run him on those. Can usually ge...

Elkhunter

I disagree, they just want to be out with the other dogs. My dogs go crazy if I take one or two out of the kennels and leave the others behind.[/quote] There is a fairly simple cure to this problem. Use a chain gang and the figure 8. See http://www.huntsmith.com Nate[/quote] Its when they are in my ...

Elkhunter

I I just let them fuss and don't say anything but it does not seem to be letting up. Is there something I can do for this? mm dont have the kennels next to one another, they are having separation anxiety. I disagree, they just want to be out with the other dogs. My dogs go crazy if I take one or tw...

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Josh Come on now don't make me do it... I know people do it a lot of different ways, I just have to chime in when I hear "there are not enough birds in UT to break a dog" when I can move 2-4 coveys each time I go out. Woody was about 80 percent broke when I got him back two years ago, hunted him al...

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I know in some states its not possible, but I am pretty sure that the OP lives in UT. And there are more than enough wild birds to get the job done.

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