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I bow hunted black bear in the spring back east for about 5-6 straight years........Stumble across a sow and her cubs and startle her and then tell me how much of a "non-factor" she is. Also, an injured black bear or a bear that has just awoken from hibernation and is very hungry are not bears who ...

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Its interesting that you two posted these...these pups are out of half sisters on their bottom sides. Amber is my female (Carolina's pup) and Rose (Redfishkilla's) are both out of Lobo's Rebel Dogg a product of a half brother sister breeding with Bean's Blaze as their sire.

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The Glock will be fine, but it really isn't necessary for black bears...bonk them with a rock. The most dangerous black bears live out of ice chests and garbage cans, real ones in the wild are a non-factor. You may also consult the regulations, in my more serious bowhunting days in the west, nearly ...

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I really like that pup Cy...
The breeder has contacted me about a repeat

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Chapter 14 rule 6G deals with excessive noise. .. it states that it is severely penalized of itself and a failure to comply with a judges instructions may result in disqualification. there are also stipulations regarding hacking. I have not found this to be near the problem in the larger AF stakes a...

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Congratulations

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I have to compartmentalize competition and field trials in particular. I love the game and I have to discipline myself to two concepts: the first is I am not in charge, and the second is that I am a member not a customer. These two pieces of awareness help me keep from reacting to things in a manner...

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If I know it's lack of knowledge and or experience, I would bring it up privately. My approach would be passive and preferably in cooperation with someone else whom the judge might respect. I would however bring it up

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I feel the best judges have very few absolutes in their mind when it comes to judging something as dynamic as a dog trial. For instance, on the subject of a live bird...how live? If a dog is coming back with feathers flying and drops a flapping bird picks it up and is clearly engaged in a decent bat...

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Here is why I posed the question. At a recent trial, I was scouting a dog. I followed the dog over a ridge and saw a fairly sizable fracas in the dust. The dog I was scouting caught a planted bird and started heck bent for leather back to his handler. I turned my horse to follow, before we got back,...

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How do you as a judge respond to the following: During a brace a dog on course is observed with a bird in its mouth. His/her brace mate is in the vicinity and may even mouth the bird on the ground when the first dog drops it within sight. You can assume the dog either retrieves the bird or leaves it...

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None of these are dumb questions and it sounds like the dog hit the jack pot with your patience. Most gun introduction is done in incremental steps while the dog is in a heated pursuit of game, starting at a distance with small caliber mis-directed fire and escalating into the situation of final app...

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You are right to be cautious about introducing the dog you described to the gun. It is highly likely that you could take this pup out to do dove hunt with the modest and realistic goal you have stated. If you have the resources to see a local trainer for gun intro and messing with birds it would be ...

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Beautiful picture

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Some of these concepts are difficult with just the video. One of the reactions to clicker training is a dog that will present behaviors to get rewarded, it is likely that either that; or the pup has acclimated t.o the place board as a reward and is sitting to be comfortable. Remember, that the train...

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I think I follow Rays post from if in no other way from a regional and demographic sense. In the region north and east of me there are a lot of wild birds, the closer you get to the SF Bay Area and So Ca...it gets tougher. In those regions it is also worthy of note that the income and population ris...

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Thank you for explaining.......... I understand. You are a mighty ribbon winning trial'er, and I just lowly peasant. Your words are gospel, mine pure horseshit. I get it. Scott posed a question that was sure to create some controversy as people tried to explain, what was his purpose? Who knows? It ...

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You haven't been alive long enough to hunt behind as many hounds as I have, or to have hunted as many wild birds. Then you have the whole communication issue to deal with, you gotta lot of work to do...

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yeah ... I think the people get it, just that the dogs are too dumb to understand

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Neil wrote:Most of those that pointed young often were hesitant in other areas.

This is precisely why some keep hunting with me and others get broke. I believe dogs are like people some need more development and some need more discipline.

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JWP58 wrote:Do you people feel the same way about high fence big game hunting?

Do you see people taking their working dogs to a preserve hunt the same as you see a high fence big game hunt?

It doesn't seem to be too far an intellectual or moral stretch to differentiate for me.

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There are more important things to be concerned with, like finding birds. That is exactly the point. I don't need to shoot birds...and if a dog (this should be puppy) will show me they can learn manners from birds without a collar or cord I let them. The two most reliable dogs I have ever owned are...

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I have never had a dog over a year old chase more than a few feet before correction.If you only shoot pointed birds, what does it do to your dog when you miss? I have never had a dog over a year old chase more than a few feet before correction.If you only shoot pointed birds, what does it do to you...

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Just looking for a simple answer, one or the other.Db It can't or shouldn't be answered one or the other because its only simple in a limited point of view. Like so many things that folks would like to take literally there are too many factors involved, not limited to but including; Your "finished"...

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I think you are probably looking for a universally accepted definition or criterion? There really isn't one. It seems that most sporting dogs have the inclination to pick something up and bring it back, how well they do that as a finished dog is subject to a number of variables. I believe most "natu...

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Tooling I am certainly confused, every program and pro I know of would agree that the situation you described with a 5 month old dog was appropriate. If you described it differently say with a poor flying bird being caught, some would start to break rank with you. If you described it happening consi...

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Must be confusing for a newcomer hearing many different views and advice.The differentials also depending on breed and intended purpose. One minute someone is advising to get the dog hunting and introduced to game at the earliest opportunity, and others advising to do different. Then well respected...

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The dog was going to eat birds and has no recall, what will the next problem be? Both of these problems may seem rudimentary to the experienced, to the inexperienced they are not. Couple this reality with the fact that the OP came on here and asked for help...there are only two reasonable paths, pro...

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Saddle, those are both nice dogs in the videos. It appears that Scott is making a sustainable living for now doing what he does. There are fanatical factions that would change any business model, sport, religion etc... to fit what their point of view tells them is best or right. Sometimes they are r...

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..and congratulations to Arlette...there was a puppy stake, huge for us 19 I believe? A Sonny pup owned by Steve Ball won it and a very young pup bred by Arlette got a placement. Pretty good accomplishments considering the field.

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I am curious as what board members would consider their top 3 go to sires and why. I believe that access and exposure plays a big part. There are a number of pups doing very well by Sonny out here in the west, that being said he has been bred a number of times for a dog so young and many of those p...

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Wow Don...thanks again. I will buy dinner this spring...wouldn't have these great momentous without you

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What forms does pressure take? My opinion is ever evolving on this. I have a recent example from a field trial where I saw a young dog feeling pressure and the owner; a friend doesn’t believe he is. This young dog is recently green broke, in that he stands birds consistently and doesn’t chase. In th...

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Great pictures Don... That is always a fun trial. There are so many willing volunteers in that club, and some hardcore field trialers to keep things running smoothly. By the way thanks again for the great frames you donated as prizes I heard a number of folks say how much they liked them, I certainl...

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Congratulations

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Yeah...I am trying to figure something out here... We are not discussing the training of a "hunting" dog, rather we are discussing training a sporting dog for obedience? And the suggestion is that there are no alternatives to force fetch or clicker training? Every Petsmart, Petco, 4H Club, has progr...

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They have expressed to me and many the fact they have a serious problem with Force Fetch, and even clicker training. Let me go further. What is the serious problem expressed? I am not sure that I can offer an alternative until I grasp the weaknesses. In fact, I have been a practitioner of both and ...

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If you don't get corrections your dog won't learn what is acceptable. Any driven dog is going to want to chase & catch the birds, even a dead broke one 99% of the time Breaking a dog from chasing and catching birds is not difficult. The world is full of also-rans that do just that. How to leave som...

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Plus one for Slistoe...

One is a natural progression in the right order at the right time...the other is the aforementioned short cut.

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I am interested in seeing where this thread goes... I believe every dog has a threshold and a time that it will show its independence. That will be determined first by the dog, then its environment and specifically the relationship with the trainer/handler. I have had to create situations to make co...

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My recent heat stroke episode cost me about 2500 bucks...my VPI insurance policy covered about 300....it is important to look at the per claim AND the allowable cost for the diagnosis...my policy is getting cancelled.

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The dogs belly is way more sensitive so you can use way lower level of stimulation and it feels like a tickle to the dog. Has anyone had a negative experience with the belly collar? Also, the collar on dogs flank only is used for woah. Is this information correct? Well I dont know if they feel a ti...

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This dog right here was green broke incredibly easy with a pinch collar and stop to flushes. For all intents and purposes once he knew that birds in the air meant stop, he was fine with not moving...even when he graduated to launchers on scent and the free quail, he was just fine with being broke. C...

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sorry Ruff I was typing this before I saw your response

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Chuckar12 - so with all your knowledge, wisdom and experience do you recommend that the gentlemen who started this threat use a belly collar on his dog? The original poster did not ask for a recommendation, he or she asked about experiences. My 'recommendation" would be predicated on what help, res...

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A dog should not be corrected or stimmed with an e-collar unless it disobeys a known command... UNLESS you understand and are adept at training techniques such as avoidance training where they have a purpose. None of us should make blanket statements ... and answering a question to the best of your ...

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I am obsessed now...note there are no dry dogs in the picture? I think I will rig a battery operated sprayer on the back of my saddle this week that I can attach a hose to ...about thirty gallons. I wonder how my all-age race is going to look with me hacking a dog into water it every 7 minutes?

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I am happy to say that Sonny appears to have 100% recovery. His blood work has all returned to normal and he seems to have the old pop back in his run...we will see this weekend when he starts his fall run in Madras, Ore. I gave he and Patch a little tune up Saturday in the pasture. http://i905.phot...

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Great pics y'all

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