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so anaconda how do you rate hunting woodcock with the hunting you had in Montana? I am sort of in the same boat as you since I moved from Cali to Texas 2 years ago. I have a minimum 5 hour drive one way to find wild quail and have to go thru the high dollar leases to hunt. No more chukar, pheasants ...

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Anaconda you got my wheels spinning. I found a place less than an hour from my house in east Texas to hunt them. I will head out this friday. did you run into deer hunters? I think they hunt the same area where I will be. I dont want to be out there with them. I will call tommorrow and find out. Als...

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can you tell me the basics of hunting woodcock? what does it compare to? it looks like the habitat is so thick how well do pointers work? i would think you would need a close working flusher. how far of range can you let your dog work in this kind of habitat? anyone know if east Texas has fair numbe...

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on a normal year what part of oklahoma produces good quail and pheasant numbers? are day and seasonal leases just as much as Texas?
how many coveys do you typically move a normal year?

$30 a day for pheasant sounds like a dream if there are decent numbers?
is this unusual for Oklahoma?

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dont teach sit. thats a no no for pointers. i wouldnt bring that young of a pup around other dogs or even where other dogs have been. might get parvo. i would take pup for walks ( away from other dogs ) to show him its a big world and learn not to be so dependant on being so close to you. come is go...

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a dog that is steady to wing shot and fall is not the best idea on these running quail. a polished dog is going to end up spending most of his time stopped while the quail are running. so a dog that can differentiate a covey that will hold versus a covey that will run will determine if the dog rush ...

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I guess it does not seem weird or wrong to me because that is the system I grew up with. I was amazed when I first went to Arkansas and hunted productive private land. I was even more amazed that there are states where you can hunt private land without permission if it is not posted. That's a good ...

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Higgins wrote:I filmed and produced the West/Gibbons DVD's. OK to plug them here?

Brad Higgins
Higgins Gundogs

i would like to see it. i have the pointing labs video. how is yours compared to it? whats different?

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i have been hunting public land up until i moved to texas 2 years ago but here is my concerns about the leases i have found. 1. most of the areas i am looking at are working cattle ranches. when i call to find out how the bird population looks this year i get the same answer. wont know until the ope...

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The best thing in the world is a hands-on mentor. The West-Gibbons DVDs are very good. The Perfection Kennels Perfect Start/Perfect Finish are good. But no DVD or anything is going to show you everything and they're not going to take your specific needs into account. Best, I agree with everything G...

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i have never seen or heard of an e collar around where you have it? is this something new??

what part of texas are you in??

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so then why are pigeons ok to use for training stop to flush??

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wow that is a versatile hunter if i ever seen one. i guess i am naive when it comes to expecting a bird dog to hunt all that too. i wonder if you can still have a dog that is steady to wing and shot on birds and still chase deer, squirells, hogs, and anything else

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use the collar on teh neck on the lowest setting to reinforce whoa with no birds around. if he is standing still try to get him to move by throwing something. if he takes a step nick him. since there are no birds aroiund durin g this time when you do get him on birds he will know the nick had nothin...

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i am just using them for a stop to flush training. so they will not be shot and just fly off

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your in Hondo?? I live in Conroe not too far from you. Do you have any input on where you like to hunt quail in Texas? i am driving all the way to Lubbock area this year. its the only place that i can find any wild quail

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any reason why i cant use them in place of pigeons? do they put off much scent? what else should i be aware of. there still any law involved using them for training that would be any different than pen raised quail

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i am just talking in general. i realize numbers fluctuate but generally speaking??? like what i am finding out about texas is the last 20 years quail have dropped off dramatically.

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i was wondering where the most public land and birds are available?
what kind of upland birds and what is an average bird count or coveys per day of hunting? i have heard Idaho can be very good but where else?

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yes this is hunting only. so if a bird flushes in a stop to flush and flies over teh dogs head he should not turn around and reposition himself to watch the birds??

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my dog will move a few feet sometimes but I think it is cause he is trying
to keep the bird in view due to the higher cover that we will be next to.
if i think this is the case should i still correct him with the ecollar? or just if he starts an all out chase?

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tru blue yes i used the gulf coast club snake breaking class. talked to 3 or 4 people each time and most of them dont even hunt. a couple will hunt maybe 1 or 2 times a year only if conditions are just right. so another words i cant find any avid hunters. couldnt get any info on where to get pigeons...

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i live in magnolia which is 2 hours from austin. i have a gsp that i have been working hard on steady to wing and shot. i am not going to start hunting until the last week of november so the weather is cooler. the big question is where to find the birds in texas this year due to the drought. looks l...

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You wouldn't tell him to come. You would tell him whoa or what ever command you use for stop. You are using verbal commands right? if the dog knows the command verbally but isnt responding because he is so focused on birds, isnt it the same as he isnt listening? so isnt the verbal command not even ...

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Brittguy wrote:because of the situtation. Bet you have never called him to come during a flush.

i initially teach whoa not on birds. so with no birds around i expect the same as with birds. the situation is completely different so i dont think that is the answer

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i am using the e collar to reinforce stop to flush. my 2 year gsp had already used the e collar to reinforce come. so my question is if the dog is so focused and not paying attention to any verbal commands, how will he know whether the e collar is telling him to come or to stand and watch birds fly ...

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mmyrick wrote:The way to hunt blues (or scaled) quail is to bust the covey ASAP and then the singles will begin calling and you can hunt them. They will hold like a bob once they are separated.

so how do you bust the coveys while there running? i dont want to shoot over my dog in this case?

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it looks like west texas blues has great bird count this year compared to bobs in the rest of the state so i am debating whether to chase blues this year with a gsp. i understand they like to run well out front and i am used to this from hunting gambels. what i need to know is will the blues hold as...

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Not me, I am biting at the bit to get out. So I will jump at the first chance to go. Sure you are limited to early morning & late evenings for the most part for dog work, but I can handle that. So you can find me 10/21 at the Matador WMA for the special youth hunt weekend, which starts a week befor...

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I do it, been doing it for years. How many time at a trail or even just hunting do the birds go running out behind the bush, and a young dog ends up seeing them and breaks ? I'll put about 12-15ft of string and tie to both of the pigeons legs. On the other end I tie the string to a bungy tie and co...

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how many of you dont even bother to hunt until mid november or december due to the heat

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its in the Lion Country Supply catalog. i am sure its on the web site also

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i saw a 15 foot tether to attach to the pigeon and to the launcher. this seems like agreat idea so the birds can be reused when teaching stop to flush. any comments on this

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if i have to buy pigeons at $3 each is there any way to get more than one launch per bird? this can get expensive. i dont have homers and i have yet to find a place to catch my own pigeons and is there any chance if the collar is used to reinforce while he is on birds can the dog associate teh shock...

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i know this a very general question but is teaching stop to flush something that takes lots and lots of birds and alot of time before I can feel it will not need a cc to reinforce on wild birds?

or generally will the dog understand what is wanted after a few sessions ?

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if i work my dog on a check cord and launch the bird before he gets into the scent cone, all i need to do is hold him with the check cord and watch the bird fly off. is this correct?? dont say anything and let the bird teach him?? now suppose i am in a real hunting situation on wild birds. will this...

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is Oklahoma going thru a drought like much of Texas??

Any part of the state look to have favorable quail populations and adequate rainfall?

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Portsider Have you heard about Matador ranch? 85 miles north east of Lubbock?

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can someone tell me what parts of texas have there differences in wild bird numbers and favorable habitat for good dog work? for example i went to south texas only one weekend and found the mesquite trees to be too thick for good dog work. north central texas was so dry last year the scent conditons...

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is the muscle building idea just for looks??

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i have read that roading with chains dragged along works. anyoone do this and what weight should be started with for a 50 lb gsp?

others say just letting the dog run works better. comments

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You might read this lil bit of a thread. http://www.gundogforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3776&highlight= It may explain it for you, there may be a number of factors involved together. Was your dog conditioned prior to season? if my dog was the only one having this problem then i would say yes mayb...

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before i relocated to texas all my quail hunting was in calif and arizona for valleys and gambels. the climate there is always very dry with little rain. my gsp was able to pick up scent at least 10 feet away in those dry conditions. last year was our first year in north central texas near throckmor...

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at least nobody is blaming the gun manufacture like so many liberals have done in the past

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Brenda What part of TX are you refering to. This is my first year in TX and its been a real challenge since its been so dry. My dog cant smell anything. I dont understand why in Arizona and Calif its dry there also but the scent problem isnt as bad as it is in North Central TX. Throckmorten. I wonde...

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I just moved to south east Texas from Arizona. I am surprised at how the quail population around here has gone to nothing. Natives around here and Arkansas say 20-30 years ago quail were everywhere. Is Oaklahoma losing there quail? Is the much public land ?

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What counties or county do you find most productive for wild bobwhites? How many coveys do you find average per day?

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