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DonF

If they are like chukars and huns, they are hold up. They can't hear well is what I was told. If you or your dog get anywhere near them, they'll leave. You will be lucky to get a glimps of them.

DonF

Clipped pigeons, that explains it. Still a very nice dog! Dan does put out some good one's.

DonF

Lost my whistles in a house fire in late 1990's. Used it a lot in the begining but got tired of whistles blowing every where nondiscrimently. I do whisle som now but thru my lips. Two to get their attention and one after a command. They hear the one after the command and they are getting shocked.

DonF

Those really look nice. Lucky I haave a 410 if I got them I don't have a 12ga or a 20ga anymore. I would get a set of those, not quite so expensive as I though. Cures my one problem with used hulls too. Twenty shots or so and you need new hulls, the base isn't strong enough and starts to concave bad...

DonF

You have a very nice dog!

What were those birds? Looked like a quail in the second strip. Don't fly very well. You did a really good job on that dog. Did you get it from Dunfur Kennel?

DonF

You have what you looking for and it's almost free. Take a fired 20ga hull and drill a 1/4" hole thru the primer pocket. Primers slip in and come out very easy.

DonF

Oh yea! Pick me up at the house.

DonF

There's two types pigeons, homer and feral. Both seem to be pretty much the same bird but, the homer has been bred to find its way home faster and from greater distences. I have and have had ferals come back from distences I could not believe. I asked about that on a pigeon site and was told that th...

DonF

Well I got the articles on Strideway. Really intresting but as was mentioned in the articles, a dog simply cannot attain those goals so judging is to find the dog taht comes closest to them. Good discriptions but I'm not sure they are a standard. It would seem from those articles that speed and rang...

DonF

[quote="legallyblonde After getting it done in the field: http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c144/legallyblonde25/Ozzypheasanthunt.jpg [/quote] Is "leagly blond" a girl? Good to see girls on these sites. But one thing I have to tell you, if your hunting over poinging dogs it is uncouth to shoot anyth...

DonF

Here you go Mr Ray. http://www.strideaway.com/strideaway/index.php?/categories/71-Field-Trial-Standards Thanks Mr Red! I looked thru then to quickly, beat tired and going to bed. I'll look beter tomorrow. By the way, in the lower left anouncing a trial I think is a pointer and a setter. That setter...

DonF

The dog under consideration must have and display great bird sense. He must show perfect work on both covey's and singles. He must be able quickly to determine between foot and body scent. He must use his brain, eyes and nose to the fullest advantage and hunt the likely places on the course. He mus...

DonF

DonF - I came across a descripion of the ideal all age performance in a dog that waswritten by John O'Niell and Coolier Smith I believe. It is contained in the AFTCA's Guidelines booklet and I understand it is also resident on the Strideaway website. The guideline booklet also contained a descripti...

DonF

I think in some limited instances Don you are correct...they make up a standard, sorta like a strike zone... thanks for the discussion best regards, Joe Ain't that the truth! :D The rules you posted above, if someone doesn't know where they come from, AKC Rules and Standard Procedures. And they are...

DonF

I certainly can see your point, but the akc does have a standard, its broad because it needs to be. Geography and topography play a major role in the details of a dogs run. It is my belief that a good handler can show a shooting dog on many AA courses and win. However, most of the time when I ride ...

DonF

i'm with Don for a little diferent reason . I do not like to connect the gun and birds till I know the dog isn't bothered by the gun. There is no hurry to make a pup think a bird is falling everytime it hears a gun and there sure is no reason to chance the tranfer of the big bad noise to a bird. Ez...

DonF

The lack of a written standard certainly causes confussion about the difference between an AA dog and a SD. I talked with Erick Mauck some years ago and he told me the secrete to Sunrise was that he was really a shooting dog. Well how can that happen if he doesn't conform to the percived AA dog? I t...

DonF

Take a step back and build more desire for the birds. When doing the intro to the gun you should be throwing the birds for the dog so the dog does not get the picture that it is hunting finding and chasing birds . This will be a problem later if you are just releasing birds while the dog is in the ...

DonF

You could ask this several times and get different answer's. The origional question kinda leaves the door wide open, like multiple dogs. Suppose you only got one pick, who would it be? For me I think Dixieland Rusty. In truth the difference between him and a bunch of others is so slim it could not b...

DonF

While I certainly don't completely disagree with any of you, the fact is there is a written standard, "The Amesian Standard". and it can apply to both AA and SD. But there exits no other written standard that I know of to determine the difference in the SD and the AA dog. So if I am to believe that ...

DonF

I read it carefully and noticed this gem. Which brings up another question, when was scouting(handler hunting the dog) allowed? I don't know at what point scouting was allowed, maybe always but, if the scout handles the dog to the benefit of the handler or for any reason, wouldn't that be double ha...

DonF

If a closed Grouse Trial was held by any one of the continental breeds, would you get enough entry's to actually put on a trial of value? Ya gotta wonder.

DonF

This is from the book, "Field Trials" x William F. Brown The Amesian Standard He must hunt the birds and not handler hunt the dog. /quote] I read it carefully and noticed this gem. Which brings up another question, when was scouting(handler hunting the dog) allowed? That's not the way I read it. It...

DonF

If it were me, I'd have him on a 20' check cord and do retrives within 20' till he's doing it right. Don't do a whole bunch of them at a time, just two or three. When you think he's ready to go farther, leave the check cord on and throw the object a bit farther, keep working him out as you go. Last ...

DonF

Have you ever worked birds with this dog off a horse? It sounds like a very young dog.

DonF

This is from the book, "Field Trials" x William F. Brown The Amesian Standard The dog under consideration must have and display great bird sense. He must show perfect work on both covey's and singles. He must be able quickly to determine between foot and body scent. He must use his brain, eyes and n...

DonF

Squ.irt came in awhile ago with blood running all over him. Looks like he snagged the bottom of an ear on barb wire. Gave him a bath, he hates them, and got the bleeding stopped. He went outside and shook and started it bleeding again. He'll get a good bath when I'm sure it won't open it again.

DonF

One exception as far as cover dogs go is 5X CH and 2X R-U CH Wanbli. Wanbli is a Brittany owned by Ken DeLong here in Michigan. Ken just retire her from competition at the age of 9 after winning the Brittany Club Grouse Championship here in MI this past week. Here's a post with pictures and a brief...

DonF

I've eaten ducks so I don't blame the dog for not picking them up. I would just hunt her on upland game, ducks are awful! I tried hunting Those ugly mud hens once. Had a really super lab back then, Joe, he was out if "Super Chief". He brought everything back. He got part way with a mud hen and spit ...

DonF

I have wondered the same thinf! Would love to hear an explanation of this.

DonF

Get rid of the wing, it encourages sight pointing. That said, we all use it a little, fun to watch! I would not put the pup on birds other than wild birds it finds on it's own, "bleep" birds will do just fine for now. What the pup needs now is a ton of happy timing. Go out with it where it can get u...

DonF

I think that I might agree with that. But one thing that would go away would be the dog for the average hunter. I've seen a lot of people with hot bred trial type dogs that didn't have a clue as to what to do with them. Matter of fact I believe the reason for the increased popularity of shorter rang...

DonF

Where is Trout Creek? I have a couple brother's living in Mich that don't hunt. One of these days I'm gonna go back there and drag them out.

DonF

Very nice looking dog!

Your in England? Pretty nice photo's of the country. For some reason I always envisioned England as one huge city. Looks like you could run into Robin Hood out there!

I forgot. I can't get 800pic photos on either. I make them all 600 on the long side and it works well.

DonF

Your not that far from K9. You weren't down at their place were you?

DonF

Sorry to hear about that. I'd give up hunting altogether if it meant my dogs would be alright. I'd keep him away from the other dog till the vet says he's good to go.

DonF

Alas, the 1913 Trap grade I have, at 8 lbs 1.3 oz, is too heavy for an upland gun - not to mention the shortcomings of 32" barrels choked full/full. Does a number on clays though. :D That's intresting. I forget where but we were talking about trap and someone mentioned that SxS's are never seen on ...

DonF

If you do hunt your dog this year and ff it next, don't forget to go from the training yard to the field enforcing what you just taught him. On another site we have a guy that did do a mild ff and his dog was great in the yard but refused it in the field. Problem was, IMO, is that he did all the yar...

DonF

Little bit of a mess up. Use it to your advantage if you have a remote trap. Say whoa and the instent her start's to move her head, pop the bird. I bet you might get her to start the second time but she won't the third!

DonF

That is a beautiful gun. I'm not a 20ga fan but I could get used to that!

DonF

Bodie

And Duke when he first started training.

DonF

Pretty late here. A good shotgun for watefowl won't necessarily make a good shotgun for upland over pointing dogs. Generally for waterfowl you needs a gun that swings well. That normally means about a 28" barrel min. Chokes don't matter because I think everything comes with tubes. A good shotgun for...

DonF

Hey Mike I thoiught that was funny. I have no doubt that the way you said it was not what you ment! I mean after all, you threw your wife out of the avatar to put Ollie in! My first thought when I read that was, "I wonder if he's got a dummy in his unit small eniugh to fit in hi mouth"! You keep on ...

DonF

That file is pretty big. Can't find it so I re-sized it for you. Nice looking pup.

DonF

Sorry to hear about your situation. Wish you lived closer, I'd just keep him for you. Maybe someday you could have him back. I did that with a friend and had his GSP over a year before he could take him back. Good luck.

DonF

I'm with roosters mom. But I will ad one more thing. I have a puppy that age on a 10' 1/4inch check cord. I play fetch anywhere I want and don't make long retrieves. The pup is then gently encouraged to come to me with the check cord, I don't give it a choice. Prior to this, I used the hallway!

DonF

:mrgreen: It's a persistant method containing 2 main fronts. One is atritting the patience of the enemy by never letting up and the second is a Psychological Ops approach to insert a fictitious event in the enemy's mind and then make them feel bad for it, leading to getting your way. Maybe I could w...

DonF

Boy you are not kidding abour Angelo Bee! An old world master gun engraver!

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DonF

Well I guess scaring the living shhhh out of your dog is one way to keep it still... Did you read "Gun Dog" x Richard Wolters? Funny but in the book thats the way he taught whoa! He jumps at the dog and screaches. He shows you how effective it is with a photo! If you got it, do yourself a favor and...

DonF

Your dog finds and points some birds. I would suggest that the ones he's bumping he went by on the up wind side. a dog can pass a bird awfully close on the up wind side and never scent it. On those birds when the chase starts, give him just a bit and start the kicing. No different that taking the ch...

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