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You really don't need a wing to do the drill. If I don't have one handy, I use a ragbone. It is primarily for sight pointing purposes only. Also, I've had pups who would turn to stone on this drill/exercise, and ones who got rabbit in their blood and chased it. However, try not to let them catch it ...

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I have no basis for comparison against the others, but I would 'point' you towards George Hickox.

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Wow.. This brings back bad memories. I live in a rural community, and a few years ago we had a hellava problem with a POS neighbor. This guy was worthless. He had a bunch of motley, mutt dogs that he fed when his disability check came in once a month, but that's about it. They ran loose and were run...

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thanks! they are.. The black/white one is going to Fairfield, California to a customer friday. The white one is a customers here in Pretty Prairie, KS and the little female is going to hunt and train this season and stay here. Hopefully..

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Nope, not yet anyways. As far as side by side, no. I have never fed the diamond. I know people who have and they like it. It is cheaper than the PMI lines of dog food. Even if you break down the extra bag credit with PMI, they come out to about the same price per pound. I like it because I get the e...

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[quote][/quote]Diamond Naturals Chicken & Rice here. Guys feeding PMI, have you tried the Exclusive yet? Ya, That is what we feed our pups until a year old. Then the Red Flannel Prime Formula. It runs us about $35 for a 50LB bag after tax. I would say it helps keep their coats nice and shiney, which...

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I agree with the 'Way Overpriced' connotation. Before I was a breeder/kennel owner I fed 2 dogs Eukanuba. I really liked it and so did they, but its rather expensive and eventually I came to my sences and started feeding PMI. Now, we have SEVERAL dogs and we feed our Puppies until a year old PMI EXC...

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I agree, birds, birds and more birds. We introduce pups to a wing on a fishing rod at 5 weeks of age, at 7 weeks we put quail in a trap and see what they do. Usually, they Point, hopscotch around and go bonkers. I feel that if a pup shows interest in learning, go for it. I always teach 'Here' formal...

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We train with live birds every Saturday until opening day with the pups. Its always interesting to see what happens when you dump 6 month old pups out with live birds. Sunday after church is 'big dog' bird time, but is more routine than fun. Gotta love them pups! http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/c...

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[quote][/quThat is why some folks prefer one breed and some another. What you enjoy might bore the heck out of me and what I enjoy might frustrate the heck out of you. Different strokes for different folks.

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I just got in from a High School FB game 90 Miles away.. I'm tired or I would look up how many times Pointers have SMOKED Brittanys in FT's. Maybe 2moro.

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I agree on the number of birds, but my client wanted him now, and so I sold him. Yes they all have their own pace, Pointers being a quick one!

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okay.. how bout for arguments sake we examine this. I just sold a 5mo Pointer to Cali who is to be shipped next week. Now this particular pup will have approxametly 20 birds already under his belt before this next monday. (live bird Saturdays!) Now this pup has chased, hunted, pointed, and has been ...

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ha ha.. Yeah as fast as she is, she's gonna slam a point one time and snap it straight permenately.

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MTO4LIFE,
DId you log onto georgehickox.com and read or just my post?

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dlfl, I can sympathize with you. Heck, I lost my beloved Lab 'Drake" when he was only a month from being 3 yrs old. He was the First Dog I ever raised from a pup and completely finished. Hellava dog. Got Ethelyne Glycol Poisioning and I had to put him down. Hardest day of my life... I made my Vet (w...

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MTNDOG whatever you think is your opinion, and I have mine. That's what makes a forum go around. Please Never Ever incinuate I don't take care of my wife. I will leave it at that. When the Neighbor Incident happened she had 5 week old pups in the whelping box here in the front room. I think she perc...

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MTO4LIFE, and Wems.. Good stuff

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WTF? I don't even Know Who Ed Fraweley even is so get off your high horse bobo.
DING DING DING!!! Your hitting the nail right on the head! Ya I cross them with Mountain Curr and Kennel them with the Kansas Badgers I also Raise Makes em just right! LMAO

"Freakin Idiot" Napolean Dynamite

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[quote][/ if I added that line to a string of puppies, I would get asked: what would be the cost of a puppy after about six weeks of training? How about after 10? quote] Well at 6 weeks they would'nt even be going away from my kennel to a client yet. Puppies are in their 3rd Critical Stage of Mental...

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No.. You're dead on. Nice Shot.

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Not so much as I did.. I was just polling the opinions of others as to what made her so volitile post preg. She was protective sure during Pregnancy but afterwards, say 4 months it was interesting. Now she barks (within the confines of the house or fence) in what I feel is appropriate. Still gets Pi...

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This is why when dealing in started dogs you see a young pup priced, lets say 600. WITH the verbage "PRICE INCREASES AS TRAINING PROGRESSES" I will list pups as Started Dogs as soon as I start working with them formaly. (birds, guns, whoa, etc) because they are just that.. Started. I agree with Powe...

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[quote][/quote]well i think dogs should be train. this are some basic stuff that they could learn..

OMG.. Sounds like you need an ENGINEER! and a English Lesson! Ha ha JK

I don't know wchua24.. Are you incinuating that they learn all the aforementioned skills before stepping afield?

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Love it. And I have one I use in training if needed. I had one pup who was a little bit soft and you could'nt put much pressure on her. When teaching the 'Here' command, she was a handfull. Just went bezerk and fought and just took a fit. I let her and finally she realized that got her nowhere, and ...

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I for one, encourage it, probably more than most. You wont steal my dog off the chain or break into my truck. Amen to that. First of all (this will PO some people) She is a EP not one of those Setter things. ha ha. Brown's aggressive temperment flareups are always within the confines of our house. ...

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Maybe but I don't think so.. I think several contributing factors play out in her acting out like that. (1) I bought her as a finished dog touse as my Brood Female. She was a kennel dog and while my wife was away on a business trip I left her in the house overnight (I fell asleep on the couch and fo...

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that would be a fine assumption if she was a hermaphrodite. (Dual or ambiguous sex organs) but she's a brood female.

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Ha ha.. thats cool.
Ya you can tell from her pic she has a very serious 'air' to her. Toughest dog I've ever seen. Had a stick get poked clear through next to her eye just missing it (white side) Never even let out a whelp. Still has never grown hair all the way around it. Adds to her character.

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THE BROWN GROWLER

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It was an inside kind of thing.. long story. Yeah.. I think you're right. The hormones got her, but I can't even explain how bad she used to get. I have since curtailed it some of the time, but I would'nt want to be a catbuglar (do they steal cats?) and come thru our door to meet her. Its kinda funn...

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If I was to dignify the aforementioned conotation with a reply it would be abrubtly removed. So why bother..

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I have a 4 year old English Pointer who we call Brownie, brown, brown dog, and now 'The Brown Growler' The thing is, She had her first litter of pups early this spring, and prior to this was a standoffish, quiet dog, but very well tempered. NOW.. She is 'The Brown Growler" to strangers or percieved ...

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Same here..I have a EP Female who scratches her neck until raw and bloody. Took her to the vet and stated I belived she had an allergy. Vet looked at me like I was crazy. Anyways despite the vet I started her on generic benydrayl and within a week or two it was completely cleared up. One daily will ...

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Ha ha.. Sounds like you have alot of pent up frustraiton.. I'm sure if a person dug around enough they could find evidence of that..... Anyways don't worry about me moving dogs, I make a heck of a lot more money off them the longer I keep them. Say what you want. It only shows your character. I have...

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I agree with Romeo. Take pup hunting. As long as pup comes back when called, has been conditioned to the sound of gunfire, Shotgun not starter pistol, I think you're set. Make sure it's okay with your hunting party too. Everyone of us has had a young dog at one time or another. You simply can't get ...

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I prefer 'Show Pups." (providing pup is at least 7-10 wks or so) Show the dog what you want before you expect them to adhear to your comand. Put pup on a leash with the kennel open and in front of you. Say KENNEL KENNEL KENNEL while leading pup into the kennel however you get them in there. Just get...

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I agree.. I have the complete set of George Hickox DVD's and Really pulled some good stuff from them. If you're a reader I suggest reading WING AND SHOT by Robert Wehle. I first started training when I was fourteen (Labs) and I learned Volumes from Richard Wolters' books. Trained and Finished my fir...

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Thats good to hear.. Throw her a rawhide and pour some HB grease on her dogfood. That'll lift her spirits!

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I'm pretty sure Mr. Robert Wehle was a backyard breeder at the begining? Everyone has to start somewhere, and look what he did. He started with cows long before he jumped into Pointers. Who woulda thought? The key is to continuely strive for improvement and grow with your successes. I started with n...

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Thanks. They're Tony's but I appreciate your compliment since they came from our kennel.

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Never had that experience with any of mine.. I have contacted my vet many a time over what I thought was a stupid question after she explained things to me, but I never lay chance to something with our animals health. Call your vet just to check it out.

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maybe it being as straight and thick as it is, it gives some an inferiority complex.

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I am a new breeder, under the tutilage of my friend who lives about 70 miles from me and has raised English Pointers for over 30 years. He has 'taken me under his wing' so to speak, and we had this very conversation about why's this dogs one price the other is a different price. Here's his answer an...

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Romeo, I am a breeder and I had a bad experiece this spring. My best female came in and we have a "tank Proof" so to speak kennel. My dad is a welder, so everything is built to withstand galeforce winds, bombing runs by the solviets, and being run over by our dozer. haha. Anyways, despite all of thi...

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Fuzz,

Lorena Bobbit. Still funny though, because it wasn't us.

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Tony, It's not that I have 'too much time on my hands' It has nothing to do with that.. Any dog owner knows they would rather you kick your mama than talk bad about their dogs. I took it personaly being as how I am the breeder of the dog in question. Its a matter of respect. Besides, as a breeder I ...

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I can guarantee you unequivocally that that pointer pups tail has never been docked, had a genetic problem, birth defect or anything of the sort. I AM THE BREEDER of the pup in question and he was just born with a 'broomstick tail' simply put. If a person is SOOOO worried about it they could contact...

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