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by shaneroyce
Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:33 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Doves For Training???
Replies: 11
Views: 3174

Re: Doves For Training???

Just did a search...sounds like I better stick with pigeons. Thanks.
by shaneroyce
Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:03 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Doves For Training???
Replies: 11
Views: 3174

Doves For Training???

Anyone ever use doves for training instead of pigeons? A guy near me has as many doves as I want as often as I want for free, but I have no idea how they would do for the dog compared to the pigeons. Thoughts/Experiences?
by shaneroyce
Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:04 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!
Replies: 21
Views: 7191

Re: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!

Thank you all for your replies. They have been very helpful. I have a very good and well-know English Setter/English Pointer breeder & trainer that lives very close to me. He and I have been talking quite a bit lately, and I am going to lean on him and learn and follow a good program. I will keep yo...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:01 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Best Method For A Beginner!
Replies: 5
Views: 1726

Best Method For A Beginner!

Thanks for the advice on a couple other threads. This is a great forum. I have read Delmar Smith, and Richard Wolters books when I was younger, but haven't read one in a while and would like to get going on a formal program for my 12 month old EP. What is the best method to go with for a guy trainin...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:57 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!
Replies: 21
Views: 7191

Re: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!

He comes a lot of the times in the field, just not 100% of the time. I don't want to ask him to come unless I can enforce it. I guess an e-collar is an option, or only calling him when I get him running back towards me (like when I change direction 180 degrees) or when he's in a position that I know...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:06 am
Forum: Training
Topic: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!
Replies: 21
Views: 7191

Re: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!

Thanks for all of the advice. It is extremely helpful. I took him out again a couple of days ago and got him into a bunch of quail again. He was busting a lot of birds and overrunning lots as well and then he spun around and locked up on point for about 5 seconds. After about 5 seconds, 2-3 quail fl...
by shaneroyce
Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:37 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!
Replies: 21
Views: 7191

Re: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!

Pointing wild birds and pointing pigeons are entirely different. Plus quail and chukars are a lot different. Plus scenting conditions vary a lot. Young dogs need wild bird exposure to figure it all out. Keep running that dog on them wild birds every chance you get until they start setting. Those pi...
by shaneroyce
Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:08 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

Sorry...I've moved the picture to my avatar.
by shaneroyce
Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:27 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!
Replies: 21
Views: 7191

Re: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!

I read alot on steadywithstyle.com and Delmar Smith's book as well. I am thinking of getting the perfect start/perfect finish dvd's. I have mainly been getting the pup comfortable with me and getting him out and running a little. What training program do you recommend for a beginner?
by shaneroyce
Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:58 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

Here's a pic of the pup when we were working him for the 1st time on some planted pigeons. I really like the dog! My progress with him is posted in the training forum with some questions. I would love to hear your thoughts on the training questions I just posted. Thanks again for everyone's help.
by shaneroyce
Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:53 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!
Replies: 21
Views: 7191

A rookie would love to hear your expert thoughts!!!

This is an outstanding forum and I am a new member to it. I'd love to hear your thoughts on training my new EP. The post is a little lengthy, but I'd like to paint as clear a picture as I can initially. Thanks in advance for your advice. I've hunted for 26 years, but this is the first pointer that I...
by shaneroyce
Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:50 pm
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: 870 Express or Stoeger Uplander???
Replies: 12
Views: 6960

870 Express or Stoeger Uplander???

So, I've always owned 12 guage pumps (almost all 870 Express guns), and am looking for a new upland only gun (mainly chukar and pheasants). I would like a 20 guage this time (I've never owned one), and I am wanting to get your thoughts on whether I should stick with what I know and get and 870 Expre...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:54 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

I picked this pup up tonight. The owner is a stand-up guy and definitely understated the dog. He was very bummed to see him go, but knew it was best for the dog. This pup's going to be fine. I will need much more training than this dog ever will! I'll keep everyone posted on how he's coming along an...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:22 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

What kind of pointer? Is it a pointer pointer with high tail and thin or is it a big pointer with a flat wavy tail, block head and goofey looking? Where are you located? What's the breeding? What does the dog do? Steady to shot, flush, rip out birds? What are your goals? Need a little more info. Ju...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:08 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

What kind of pointer? Is it a pointer pointer with high tail and thin or is it a big pointer with a flat wavy tail, block head and goofey looking? Where are you located? What's the breeding? What does the dog do? Steady to shot, flush, rip out birds? What are your goals? Need a little more info. Ju...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:03 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

By the way, he did say something to the effect of, "He's a great dog that was coming along really well and then I had to start working out of state and not spending much time working with him the last 4-5 months. You'll probably be a little frustrated at first because when I come home and work with ...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:51 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

They said he is a perfect gentleman in the house kennel and stays in there quiet (unless he has to go outside for his "business", in which case he will whine a little to let you know in the night). They said he stays in the kennel until 9 or 10 am every morning at which point I believe they let him ...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:25 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

Re: How much harder would it be?

If you go to pinehillkennels.com and look under stud dogs, his dad is Stagecoach Jack and his mom is Pinehill Elhew Cover Girl. There are pictures and pedigrees of both of them on the site. He looks like those dogs and is intact. The guy that has the dog had him shipped here to Idaho when he was 7 -...
by shaneroyce
Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:38 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: How much harder would it be?
Replies: 21
Views: 6382

How much harder would it be?

I have been looking for a good EP or GSP pup to hunt chukar, pheasant, and quail over. This would be my first time training a pointer from start to finish. I've trained some labs well enough to foot hunt pheasants over (or at least bring along without causing too much trouble), but am very much a ro...
by shaneroyce
Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:26 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Introducing new person to hunting?
Replies: 15
Views: 5200

Re: Introducing new person to hunting?

My personal opinion, and I have six kids all 13 years old and younger, is that when it's about them...it's about them. When I take a gun in the field or a fly rod on the water when the trip is to focus on introducing them or getting them excited about hunting or fly fishing, I invariably neglect the...
by shaneroyce
Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:59 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Looking For A Good Pup - GSP vs. EP!
Replies: 11
Views: 4003

Re: Looking For A Good Pup - GSP vs. EP!

Sorry everyone, I did not know that the GSP vs. EP question was a "hot topic". I'll look at litters of both if you all have any leads near me. Thanks for the replies and pm's so far. I look forward to more info.
by shaneroyce
Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:50 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Looking For A Good Pup - GSP vs. EP!
Replies: 11
Views: 4003

Looking For A Good Pup - GSP vs. EP!

I put this in the "Archive: Wanted" forum...not sure where the right place to post it is. I'm a pretty short time lurker on this forum and a new member. I'm a long-time hunter and am looking for a good bred GSP pup for the field (maybe EP-would love to hear thoughts on this-have never had an EP but ...