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Most of the dogs I work with are head cases brought on by someone that claims to be a trainer that has overdone the shock collar. So there are trainers and then there are actually trainers. The duct tape thing is the first thing Dave Walker told me and is a valuable bit of advice. As to the holiday,...

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Hey Tailgunner welcome. As you know I'm a pointer guy and will help any way I can.

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imo A little elhew goes a long way and some outcrosses work out well. I'm sure you know myrna 's pedigree. Elhew Gunner was a very good dog in his own right. He was not always taken good care or treated real well but still performed well and sired some good dogs. Fun Seeker is not real far back and ...

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Sorry to hear about your dog. An honest breeder would likely replace the dog or make it right in some way. Best to you in the coming new year.

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Polmaise, while the little dog in the video may not work for the type of hunting I do watching her work with such joy was really uplifting. Thanks for posting except for the fact now I probably will want one

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I will go against the grain a little. I don't think a 5 month old puppy needs to be lit up. Most pups will chase anything and most well bred pups will quit on their own after they what they are hunting for ie birds. If the dog persists at a year old then its time to stop this behavior.

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If your dog does not have a visible conformation fault ie cow hocked and or down in the pasterns, you might want to have the hips xrayed. Sometimes a dog with very short pasterns will not be a smooth goer. If none of these things apply you might just be stuck with a clunky gait. I say this because i...

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A dog probably can't run to fast, they can outrun their nose. All dogs scenting ability is not equal some just have a lot better noses than others. A dog with less than an average nose will likely bump more birds than a dog with an excellent nose. If a dog is trained to be steady on birds and does s...

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If your dogs fight each other they will likely fight other dogs. If you are a hunter this will be trouble when hunting with friends and their dogs and is a good way to lose them. I don't let my dogs fight under any circumstances and they get punished if they even growl. That means a spanking. Two ma...

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There is no hope and the joke is on us. :roll:

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Hey Don, your pics are always welcome and appreciated. Your training method and explanation should be a help to anyone. Thanks for being willing to share. Bill

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I hunt where there is a lot of country compared to the amount of birds. I hunt all age bred pointers and two dogs cover more country which saves me a lot of walking over steep rocky ground.

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shags might want to look at past winners at the NC at Ames . On a slightly different topic, how do you suppose breeds other than pointers and setters magically became competitive in horse back trials?

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in the areas we hunt hun numbers are poor, sharptail numbers are good. If you would like more info shoot me a PM.

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Thanks Brad. This is a good video for beginners and a few who think they know a lot as well. A refresher coarse never hurts dogs or people. Keep up the good work.

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The short of it is buy a few pheasants plant them using a bird launcher. Use a check cord and let the dog point if he takes a step launch the bird. Do not let him chase. Repeat until he stands to your liking. These birds run by nature if a dog does not learn to be careful he will continue to bump an...

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This sounds like a label for a dog trained to a certain level that Brad uses. I don't find it anymore odd than a started dog or a derby, just a name for that level of training to his specs. Sad no, rose by any other name perhaps.

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Good info thanks for sharing. What is the brand and where did you find it? I would like to give it a try.

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This is great news for you both. In Idaho the setter rescue is maxed out and can't take anymore, at least in this area. Your new prospect looks like a dandy.

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That is a good one thanks for posting.

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This started off about Oregon and should stay on topic. I have bought a nonresident license in Oregon for the last 30 years. I have written letters to fish and game and a couple of people in congress. Anyone on here can do the same instead of debating limits and how many birds should be killed. Ther...

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I have been there three times. If you love bird dogs the NC should be on your bucket list. There is no other trial like it and is really worth seeing.

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A famous man once said, if we don't hang together then we will hang separately.

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What happened to letting a pup be a pup. At 4 or 5 months I would not shock the pup. A check cord is plenty.

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This would not just effect Oregon but the Pacific northwest and beyond.

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In your position I would at least look into a well started dog. If you then feel the need for a pro it will cost less to get the dog the way you want it. If cost is an object this will probably be the most cost effective for you. There are pit falls in hunting a pup or young dog with a group but tha...

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connorj wrote:Hahaha
I sort of expected as much in response but thought I would see if I could gauge the overall like or dislike for the public lands out there. Sometimes you just might hit those far out shots, sometimes you don't but you gotta shoot to find out.

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Yep, chukar season ends at the end of the month. Had a good outing today. Good hunting to all.

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love the expression on the dogs face in the last photo. Good day for you both and thanks for posting photos.

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A very merry Christmas to you feather finder and to Brad Higgins as well.

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Welcome and ask away. You might get Training with Mo.

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I try not to hunt on weekends so I just saw this. Merry Christmas to all you folks and a special thanks to Sharon and Ezzy. Best to all in the New Year. Bill

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Averageguy makes a valid point, I believe. Some dogs DO rank getting a bird in their mouth as a VERY high reward value. They can actually get pretty upset without the anticipated opportunity to retrieve! On-the-other-hand, some (E.) pointers I have worked with are happy to find and point all day bu...

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Good reply Dog Dr. I'm sure the irony is not missed. Jon is the last person who should accuse someone of not knowing what they are talking about. If there is a real quack here all he has to do is look at himself

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Yep head to Indiana or anyplace but Idaho.

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In the west I see more and more hunters every year. Hunter plight my rear!

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First a treeing walker is not really considered a fox hound unless you are in the far west where a fox will tree. Try a running walker, a july , or a trigg. These breeds are used for coyotes, fox, and deer.

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This was a rather insipid thread from the first jump out of the chute. People that don't know what they talking about should ask first before making stupid statements. Every time you turn a dog loose there is a risk, weather it is birds, hogs, deer, or whatever. Sharon, Ezzy where are you?

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Go to the Field Trialer and click on Steady with Style. Good hunting everyone.

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If you want really good neighbors you have to be one. Running around in the dark especially in deer season is not going to make most deer hunters or any other neighbors happy. I'm with shags on this put him on a road rig if you just have to run him after dark. Who is the problem neighbor here?

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First of all what did you expect from a 5 month old pup. There is no reason for a trainer to keep a pup that young over three months. I would pick up your pup, if the result is not up to your expectations count it as experience and go on. After that length of time unless this dog has derby quality a...

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Hey Brad nice video as usual. Why is it a good idea to let the dog bury the bird?

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Good to see you back.

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My spotting scopes are called English pointers. How about just turning the dogs loose and going hunting.

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You might try training with Mo. It is a good book for anyone. Under no circumstances should a hi powered rifle be fired around any bird dog let alone a pup. Have fun and enjoy the ups and downs they are all part of the bird dog world.

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Shags is spot on. Go rescue your dog because at this point it is a rescue. This person is no dog trainer and does not appear to know what she is doing.

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polmaise makes a good point. There are trainers and people who claim to be trainers. A good trainer knows what to do when the wheels come off. A person who just claims to be a trainer does not. You might want to find an actual trainer. I train my own and take in a few for others. if someone told me ...

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Thanks for sharing.

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