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First of all it is buyer beware. I would never buy a "started dog" with out seeing what the dog can do. A trial dog that doesn't run big enough is one thing a dog that has been screwed up in one way or another is a horse of a different color. Not all folks with dogs for sale are honest. If you don't...

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Good info, thanks for posting.

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Will the dog point? Why would you let the pup catch a carded pigeon? I would not let the pup catch another bird until he was pointing well. Once he was pointing I wouldn't let him catch a bird that was not shot or mock shot. You are blessed with wild birds so use them. A check cord is the way for no...

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Check out Cabalas and or Bass pro shop. I always carry a light pair of rain gear. A strap vest with more pockets than you think you will need is a good idea too. Go on line and look at all the vests to get an idea and go from there. What ever you decide water proof clothing is always a good idea.

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I have had pointers for over 60 years for the hunting we do they are the best. So no I won't switch.

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I'm recoil conscious so I like the Beretta a lot better. I have hunted with both and sold the two Benelli and got a Beretta for my wife. They are the xplor lite.

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Mike da Carpenter wrote:The problem isn’t with either the gun or the target, it’s the idiot using both in a hazardous area. Put all the warning labels on there you want, but those that are stupid, take warning labels as a challenge.

lol Well said.

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+1 He and bill West and Dave Walker will always be three of the best. I hear good things about MO so the legacy goes on.

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We have 5 pointers so it goes without saying they only mind when they want to but I don't mind and many are of the same mind.

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I'm with average guy on this one so I'm done. Sharon you are right on about reading posts. On hunting to relieve stress, well walking is good for the body and killing is good for the mind.

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Jon, perhaps you should join HSUS or PETA if you are not already a member. You will more than likely find people you have much more in common with.

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OK this one really makes me chuckle. The minute you buy a dog and a gun to hunt upland game you are in the hole. When you factor in care for the dog or in my case dogs the cost of a vehicle to get you there and fuel you will never recover the monetary cost. For me and the people I know it is all abo...

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There is such a thing as a pointing lab right? I see them for sale and advertised as such so what is the big deal about this video? It does look like the dog is being trained to point or they are trying to improve and advance this behavior. So am I missing something.

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Go to Argentina or go back to California. One can't have everything or know everything.

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We like hunting in Canada but we do hunt ND and Montana. If you are on limited time I would suggest SK Canada.

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One of the best ways to screw up a young dog is to hunt in a large group and there is plenty of reasons for this statement. Perhaps you can take your dog off a good ways from others in the crp. Be honest with your buddies and let them know how you feel and things will work out. I hunt alone a lot an...

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I don't see why this is a big deal. Everyone learns from others and usually incorporates what he learns into a method that works for them. West's method is his, Walker's is his and Mo's is his even though they are close to the same learned from the same person. Have no doubt each of those trainers h...

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Brad has a method that works for him and may have things incorporated he learned from others. So has every other method I have heard of or seen. What is the big deal and why try and be insulting? My uncle was using a check cord and planted birds in the late thirties but I bet he didn't invent it.

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I have found that over feeding is the biggest cause of loose stool. Changing feed often doesn't help. You might try feeding less and follow the tips given by the other respondents.

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Unless things have changed the dna test used just shows the parents are the parents. If mars testing or the equivalent are used things may change. I would guess some eyes would be opened as well. Cross breeding is still going on.

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I'm a little far away to help. You might try craigslist.

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where are you located?

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This is a pup, right? If that is the case working him on 2 or 3 birds a day rather than 10 in one day would better serve your pup. One can sour a pup by to much work and no play. Carded birds are for check cord work only until the dog is steady and you can go on to the next step in training. A good ...

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I use carded pigeons or chukar before I use launchers.

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Hey Average. That is a great looking dog that goes way beyond versatile. Good for you and your dogs. Really enjoyed the photos. Great buck by the way.

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I would not put a bird pen in the same area in which I keep my dogs.

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cjhills, If you really hunt in Canada and have only seen one pointer either you are sight impaired or full of it. We hunt 5 states and Canada most years and see many pointers and setters besides our own. There are brits and gsps for sure but more pointers and setters.

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Hey, sct, nice shot

I guess the price of a pup thread is shot too. lol

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spy car, what % of fat do you feed and what kind? What is the total protein of your ration? I, like most, want to do what is best for their dogs, not argue. I have all age bred pointers and hunt in terribly rough country. It is not named Hells Canyon for nothing. My dogs run from thirty to forty mil...

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One could feed the same feed to a draft horse and a throughbred and the draft horse will still never run five furlongs in 57 flat. There is such thing as apples and oranges. You cant make a poodle into an English pointer no matter what you feed it.

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My nephew is a musher in Alaska and competes in the Iditarod he told me that mushers feed a minimum of 50% high protein high fat kibble. Meat and fat from other things. He said they cant get by with out the kibble. They feed fish and other stuff they can get the cheapest. No musher he knows does not...

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Hey Don, you can see Stormy really put on the skids. Cool pic thanks for posting.

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Can't argue a bit with you on that Featherfinder. Good points.

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Any dog trainer today has a way of training derived or learned from other trainers. These put with his own ideas and a way of training make it his method. Brad has a way of training that works for him and he makes a living at it. I have trained my own and others for over sixty years and I still lear...

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We hunt Montana, North Dakota, and Canada in Sept.

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Shags, thank you for the reply. Pedro, be careful holistic folks might be able to put a hex on you. lol

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What is in this food that helps?

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Hey Sharon every one I know that got a new knee said they wish they had done years sooner. A friend that I grew up with and is now 75 had both done three months apart and he is like a new person. This fall he and I carried elk quarters about 3oo hundred yards to the horses. He could not have done th...

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Nice pics and nice gun thanks for posting.

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How they taste depends on weather they are resident birds or migrating in to your area especially out of grain fields. How birds taste is not what the op ask though.

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The man ask about messing up a pedigree. That may allude to trying to register the pups. CJ and Greg are correct when talking about huge running gsp or brits. If mars testing is ever done instead of a simple dna test folks might get a surprise.

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You may find a bit of hybrid vigor in a cross like this although they may share some of the same ancestors anyway. If you think there is some advantage to this cross and you are not planning on faking some papers to register the pups as one breed or the other go ahead.

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Spy car, I would like to know how many dogs you have on this raw diet. What do you do with your dogs and how often? What is your actual formula and cost? You can PM if you like. Thanks.

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We went through this in the 80's in Idaho. If the State gets a hold on public land they will sell it.

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1,2,and 4, no. 3, We usually run two dogs at a time but often times only one and I have seen no difference.

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I shoot a beretta xplor lite but if I had to pick one of your choices I would go with the browning.

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Dave walker and/or Mo Lindley

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This dog may just have an exceptional nose. You might try releasing the dog until you are sure it is really an unproductive you might be surprised when you finally kick up birds. I have a gyp that has the best nose of any dog I have ever seen that I thought was false pointing, by releasing her somet...

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LOL you know you are killing an endangered species right. There are a lot where we have been training this summer as well. Glad you had a nice hunt.

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One of the ranches we hunt will not even allow shod horses off of established roads let alone vehicles. I'm pretty sure they think the fire danger is far above average and very real. The wind and a very dry fire load make for a dangerous combination kind of like ignorance and arrogance. The answer t...

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