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bobman

Looks to me like a bull terrier not a pit, terriers are tough persistant little buggers

bobman

Get the dog vaccinated its cheap insurance, you can never be sure even a snake broke dog wont run over one

bobman

I've taught evey dog I have ever owned to sit, in thirty five years of shorthairs none have ever sat on point yet. My dogs live in the house and I want them to be good house dogs, sit is a useful command for that. I've heard this"sit on point" thing for many years so I'm sure its happend but I would...

bobman

fine but never ever ever allow a dog to be unattended with a baby. Its your job to make sure the dog understands his position in the pack is below the dog And active shorthairs pup/young dog will knock a little kid down, my kids would run in terror when my pups came near them, they all survived just...

bobman

GH I've never used a heel stick, could you give a detailed description of the proper way to use a heel stick and a good description of how to build one when you get a chance

Thanks

bobman

Seems strange that the way to solve a problem of cost and not following the law is to add more of each Exactly what law is there now to limit the number of unwanted dogs being bred?? Answer none, so how do we add MORE if there isn't any?? your vague post attempting to relate a bunch of unrelated is...

bobman

I've always though it would be a good idea to give some kind of tax break like 50% more than what the spay or neuter costs along with this type of legislation kind of a carrot and stick approach. If they had a choice, to pay a fine if caught with a unneutered dog or get some extra money for neuterin...

bobman

I agree with that, I just said that its a step in the right direction, not the solution, and that something obviously needs to be done,by law. I would really like to see mandatory neutering of mongrel dogs unless they are being purpose bred for the development of a new breed or to out cross to impro...

bobman

your analogy is flawed,apples and oranges there are laws to go after criminals even if they use guns so that society can enforce proper behavior with guns, there are currently no laws to properly manage indiscriminant irresponsible dog breeding so society cannot enforce responsible behavior about do...

bobman

Ahhh but will that $300 pointer also hunt FUR and naturally retrieve to hand WITHOUT being FF'd?? BTW I don't charge anything near $3000 for my pups! AND I run my Weims with Pointers!! I have one of two pointers ( pointers being EPs) and 6 shorthairs that will, and I was just needling you for fun w...

bobman

A three hunder dollar pointer will out hunt a 3000 dollar wiem 9 out of 10 pups.

bobman

Its cheaper to buy dogs from good professional breeders breeding to improve the breed , than it ever is to breed them yourself and a lot less hassle, if your thinking of breeding dogs to save money, you wont.

bobman

Keep a African lion on your premises and see how far the "right to property" gets you, local govt commonly have the jurisdiction to mandate pet ownership rules thru zoning laws and does so all the time. I do understand your feelings and agree with them but don't have any confidence that people will ...

bobman

show me in the constitution where it says you have a constitutional "right" to own dogs :lol: :lol: , society through local govt makes rules on pet ownership all the time. And I didnt say you cant own dogs just said if you want to be a breeder you should have to be licensed and pay for the privilege...

bobman

All my dogs are neutered and I know its not responsible gun dog owners doing this although some are. look at the numbers of dogs killed every year just in California, I would support a license for breeders, an expensive one, and if you didn't have one you would have to have the dog neutered. I am wi...

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In California alone, animal control agencies and shelters euthanize an estimated 750,000 to one million dogs and cats annually as a means to deal with the surplus of companion animals. This method of reducing the overcrowding in animal shelters costs California taxpayers in excess of $50,000,000 an...

bobman

But I am licky, my wife has been very agreeable

I bet!

bobman

http://americanbrittanyrescue.org/index ... &sid=4#126

Some nice looking brits on here would make good hunters and could use a helping hand

Look at Dooley the description says he has a nice point and understands "whoa" probably wasn't dumped probably was just lost.

bobman

Its not legal in the counties that border TN, although grouse and wild hogs are. I wouldn't let my dogs fool with hogs though.

bobman

or you can simply put a sock with a long string on it, dont dizzy the bird and put the sock over its head and when you pull off the sock with the string they will fly. I'm not saying dont buy a launcher but you can add to the set up with a couple more birds very cheaply with these rigs. Put a small ...

bobman

Its legal to hunt deer in much of Ga with dogs. Most guys use hounds, I used to hunt them as a bonus when quail hunting. It can be pretty exciting when you see your shorthair sailing though the air to tackle a wounded deer. I had a big male that would grab them by the head and flip them over, he was...

bobman

tell your wife dont french kiss him

bobman

I used to hunt rabbits and deer with my shorthairs, killed lots of nice bucks over them with my drilling, Train your shorthairs to point deer and you will be amazed at how many deer will lie in their beds thinking you will walk by, in a Georgia clearcut. AND if you are wondering how to train them it...

bobman

I would jump at that chance if I was you.

You will be able to judge for yourself how the birds fly, but if they've been out on their own for months they will fly well I bet.

bobman

You guys can keep fighting, I think I'll go drinking with Theresa

bobman

put a childs clean sock over their head with along string tied to it when you plant them, when he establishes point jerk the string off and they will flush, roll it up put it in your pocket and and go to the next bird

bobman

buy a powerful pellet rifle and start dropping squirells with that until when he sees the gun raise he expects the squirell to fall, do that daily for two weeks. Then get a accurate scoped 22 a single shot and make darn sure you hit the first squirell you try to shoot with it first shot This part is...

bobman

My eps ( although I'm definitely not a first time trainer) really aren't any different than my shorthairs except they don't like to swim like the shorthairs they just wade :D . I'm sure if I tried I could get them to water retrieve ( well reasonably sure). If you live in a hot place like AZ I would ...

bobman

Well the biggest difference is the German Shorthair is more likely to have a strong natural retrieve especially water retrieve, and a better tolerance to cold weather so where you live should have some impact on your choice. If its hot where you hunt the EP would probably be better. If you have not ...

bobman

Bird dogs are a lot of dog for a first time dog owner.

You might want to consider buying a trained dog and having the trainer give you some lessons in handling it, then let that dog teach you about birdogs.

bobman

What kind of dog and how old you have to give more info if you want good advice.

I would'nt do the pot banging thing myself, no matter how old.

bobman

There's all kinds of gadget's, trick's and what not that sound good in theory but in truth, I think the best result's come from simplicity and imitating a wild bird. Less training, less gadget's and less testing equal more, faster and better results! truer words have never been written. Get a red l...

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Three National Guardsmen were arrested this week for arranging the smuggling of Mexicans across the border. They pocketed big bucks, at the expense of American security. They found 24 Mexicans in the van when one of the Guardsmen was arrested. Is this where circuses get those clowns they stuff into ...

bobman

If its a rattlesnake near a house I kill it, if its out in the woods or prairie I leave them alone. My hunting partners next door neighbor died in her yard next to her garden from a rattesnake bite. I never harm non poisonous snakes either, they are very beneficial. You might be right about the babi...

bobman

Might work well in thick eastern stuff, but it wont work out west on prairie birds in open situations the dog will start crowding bird before you get there in my opinion

bobman

Id like that, both of those things

We have three horses so thats not a problem.

Whats NBHA stand for

bobman

you might talk to this guy

jonesy68@alltel.net <jonesy68>

hes is in Berea ,Ky

I dont have any personal experience with him but he has a sound reputation

that about 3 hrs from Johnson city

bobman

In thirty five years of training hunting dogs I've never been to a field trial, I'm going to go to one soon

I have another question do they allow people that are just observing to follow the dogs on horseback behind the judges

bobman

thanks again for a very informative thread!

bobman

thanks for taking the time to write that, one more quick question

whats this term mean

incorrigible bumper or tagger

bobman

depends on the dog and what you are using it for. On a pup get a dummy collar and file down the points and put it on him everytime you walk him ect. long before you use a live collar.

When the time comes you are using electricity you dont want the dog to know the collar is the source.

bobman

John that was very informative I appreciated it and it makes good sense. Let me ask your opinion about field trial washouts, what do think of them as hunting dog prospects for average hunters? Seems to me not being able to compete just indicates they are not elite athetes, but would still be sound u...

bobman

Nice site and one of the things that I liked was your rates are clearly stated and what the dog will dog for the money when you get done with it is also clearly stated.

Thats something most sites do not do.

Best of luck with it I bet you will do well.

bobman

If this is the first lab you've trained you might want to study the process and train him without a collar which is easily done and will teach you alot. Then buy a collar after hes a year old only if he has any problems that need correcting. I successfully trained my first maybe 50 labs obedience an...

bobman

My understanding of the process, is to take the dogs off of birds until they are retrieving reliably. Not saying it is right or wrong, just what I know. me too, I hate the FF process anyway which is why I dont do it to my dogs until they have hunted one season( usaully dont do it period) and know a...

bobman

But hopefully your dog pleases you and if it does it is as good as it gets regardless of the games that you may play.

thats the way I see it

bobman

How old is the dog?

I teach sit to all my shorthairs,it doesnt effect whoa.

I never FF them, everyone I've ever owned retrieved just fine.

I teach hold gently then fetch usaully after their first complete hunting season, if you dont over do it most shorthairs like to retrieve.

bobman

like I said if you want to go for it, you're not going to drag a fight about it out of me, hope it works out well.

bobman

In my opinion it will lead to the dog breaking and flushing, once my dog points I will do the flush.

I prefer to have the dog at my side or behind me anyway when I shoot.

But different strokes for different folks, if you want to do it its none of my beeswax..

bobman

I use the collar but only after the dog is reliably whoaing on the CC. I then transition to the CC & collar and then only the collar. Its does sound like she may be defaulting to a sit and looking to you because shes confused about the stimulation. You never have anything to lose not using a collar ...

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