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JKP

Too many guns in the safe... Here's a very nice Simson 12 ga...made by Merkel. Same as the Merkel Model 147...this is an extractor gun with 28" barrels choked M/F, straight stock 14 1/4". Except for the ventilated pad, its all original and in excellent condition...no pits, dents, rust, very slight h...

JKP

For me hunting is like going to a concert....you're hoping for magic...it doesn't happen every time....but when it does, it is something that stays with you. I have killed a lot of game....but when I talk about my hunting experiences I always seem to come back to those magical moments, those afterno...

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The Old Girl...on hillside grouse..

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I own DD but have had Vdogs in one form or another for 40+ years. A retriever you train...a Vdog you "shape". My DD are not as independent as a longtail...they have been bred to cover the middle ground..so if you get too obedience focused too early, you can take away from the independence. IMO...its...

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Gotta agree...Porkie is better!!

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Now wait-a-minute!!! You're not thinking this thru!!! Labradoodles sell for $1500. A "Great Shihtz" (great Dane and Shihtzu) for $2500!!! Just imagine what a Yorkiepointer will bring????

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5-6 years ago...upstate NY...the old girls (now retired)...on grouse...

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Have seen a few VERY GOOD versatile Britts over the years. Somewhere in the mid 1990s, a dog named Rusty from upstate NY ran a max score and became a VC....haven't seen a better dog in the water...a little powerhouse. Don't think there is a great deal of interest in Britt circles for NAVHDA...seems ...

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What I find amazing is how we may not profile and target drivers on our streets or passengers at our airports, yet the IRS from all accounts and facts presented did exactly that by pursuing action against conservative groups over liberal groups at an undeniably grossly unfavorable ratio. How would l...

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Easy way to wash them out - a drain - you will find a pile in a box someday.

JKP

I don't think there is much doubt that trials were instrumental in some of these breed changes. I don't own other breeds and if those that do like them that is what is important, no matter how they got where they are today. The games are games...the only thing that matters is if your dog pleases yo...

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If we give away wins and placements to dogs who don't meet the priorities set for those stakes, No you shouldn't....the Spins are in the wrong place...as are the majority of all breeds at the higher levels of the FT world. So what do we do? Keep trying to make all the breeds the same?? Sounds like ...

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I certainly misspoke when I inadvertently said there were no brits who could complete in GSP gun dog stakes. So, I will be clear in my opinion since my opinion seems to worry you Neil, 99% of the so called all age brits I have seen in 15 years of trialing, couldn't compete. Meaning, wouldn't win on...

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If legitimate Brittany breeding through attrition, nutrition, or happenstance brings larger dogs So are you saying let the game dictate the dog (attrition)?? Certainly 95% of the hunters in the land don't need the extreme. Is a 24" all white Britt with no feathering acceptable as a standard?? I hav...

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The abillity to show themselves at extreme range, without looking back, not checking in, just knowing how to be seen is most amazing, and the great ones will do it too regularly for it to be accidental. I have seen them be gone for 10 - 15 minutes, and just when the handler and judges are getting a...

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This list has made clear repeatedly that their are trials and there are trials. The only real danger is not to be able to appreciate a good performance whether that is a snappy Britt or an AA Pointer out beyond the horizon. The key is to focus on your kind of dog and be the best you can in whatever ...

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Does anyone notice that we have all these man made rules and beauty "points" that are totally artificial and that have nothing to do with finding and pointing game?

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So...would it be fair to say that all things being equal the dog that runs bigger, wider, farther ahead will win.....eventually leading to dogs we can't see but can find and don't judge during "game acquisition" or whether they ran over birds, blew out birds etc?? Sounds to me like every handler goe...

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JKP- why do only roughly 50% of the dogs in the NAVHDA Invitational pass each year? Aren't these dogs considered the cream of the crop? What happens? Oh, c'mon Fuzz...you're talking about a bunch of week end warriors, not pro handlers with the best proven over years of competing. You guys get me al...

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Somone posted a link to a definition of an AA dog given by a legend of the game. He specifically stated that to define the AA dog in terms of range would be to do the AA dog a disservice...that range is only one factor. More important were application, courage, stamina and "bottom", etc. Why is it e...

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The best dog in the world can't find what is not there. The dogs running at Ames are expected to run the coarse and that usually doesn't mean going off into the thick stuff where they can't be found. WOW!!! So we trot them around the ring where the judges can see them??? How does Bo have 8 finds on...

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And JKP, it might help if you watched the dogs that run at Ames. They sure look to me to hunt. It is a bit hard to judge them from your computer. True....but the fact that NO ONE even questions these dogs, the finest in the land....in the best hands....and on grounds manicured for quail production ...

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JKP has the same lack of understanding, regarding bird contacts, that is common among many folks who do not trial. They simply do not understand that it is not about counting finds. Six finds in a half hour is not necessarily a better indication of a "better" performance than two finds is. Quality ...

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Is this really a problem??? having to identify differing standards?? We have heard many times that in the absence of sufficient performance to award placements, they will be withheld. So it would appear that judges are finding sufficient performance across many breeds that are worthy of placement. T...

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But I have never been taught to distinguish a pointer from a setter, or a GSP, or a Britt, and so on. Since a pointer dominates each of the types except the cover dog where they are the equal of the setter, I am at a loss. I have neither the vocabulary nor the training to tell the best Viszla from ...

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Once we forget what pointers are doing and concentrate on what our breeds are supposed to do we can work on improving our breeds and stop trying to make them pointers. IMO....Pointers have at the same time been a great influence on other breeds and a horrible influence. They are an important founda...

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Those type scatterguns have been around for well over 100 years...one would think people would learn.

I want to know if the tripod comes with it.

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Not enough barrels...

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Let's get serious....a driven retriever will just recover more birds than one that isn't. All this poppycock about shooting the heads off pheasants...or taking your dog over to the fall, etc. Don't know where you hunt, but along some of the sloughs, mountainside thorn apple or coolies I hunt, there ...

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I'll put it more bluntly. I don't give a rat's patoot about retrieving.... Never have...never will. Boy...that plays right in the "wheelhouse" of the Antis and Greenies...hunters that don't give a rat's patoot about recovering game. Fact is, you can have a heck of a dog that isn't a multiple major ...

JKP

It's a little disengenuous to say your breeding dogs just as good, without proving it. Because you simply do not know until you ask the dog to perform at the highest level. And hunting doesn't ask that of a dog. The level that is required of a dog is determined by the owner. Careful you don't insul...

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JKP another thing you need to think about when you keep talking about how many FCs there are compared to the high scoring dogs in your tests.I'll bet there are a lot more dogs competing for those FCs titles then are testing for those high scores.Those F Trials are open to all breeds for the most pa...

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JMHO...but if you are getting into hare up there, I'd look for breeders that are running large pack and SPO trials. These are dogs that are run on hare and cottontail and can really run rabbits.

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Ted I don't doubt what you say. I can also point to completely outcrossed stud dogs that produced excellent pups no matter what they were bred to. I'm simply saying that in a system where the object is to find the outstanding animal and not really keep track of the rest, you can't really be sure tha...

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How did you get that dog and how do you keep that dog - the FT mind is my guess. Your basic assumption is that FT gets you there, but you can get there with other methods as well. The winning dog mindset creates a bunch of single best dogs with little attention to what the rest of the litter was wo...

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Quill, I wonder about the distance too and just couldn't figure out why a dog can't hold a bird when it is several hundred yds away as it can if it points at 40 yds. They either do or they don't and distance never made a difference I could see. Its not a question of the dog holding the birds...its ...

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And how does breeding those dogs over and over again improve the breed ? So what would be an improvement? A Britt that is more like a Pointer??? Then a Britt that is more like an AA Pointer?? What is wrong with breeding Britts or any other breed that are just consistently excellent in type and work...

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Quality of a dog is not governed by how far it will run or how far out it will hunt. Nice to hear someone say that. I will miss my old black "beast"...11 years old now and showing the effects of age. Never saw her much beyond 300 yds out but that dog was just standing in front of birds more often t...

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How do you find the dogs to breed that will be good representations of the breed? That is the purpose of competition in the field and in the ring. Our dogs are where they are today because of competition. The problem today is that people tend to do either the field or the ring to the exclusion of t...

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Dual is right. You start with performance. Pretty alone is not doing any working breed much good. You see structure and movement work best when you put it to work day after day. You can be pretty certain that the dogs that flow over the ground, day after day, light on their feet while making it look...

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The vast majority of folks who buy pups of any breed in this country don't have the skills of Rick Smith or most of the folks on this Board. Seems to me what is being said is that these dogs aren't being bred for the average guy...or even the intermediate. We've had this discussion in Euro dog circl...

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I'll end my participation in this thread with a repeat....no, not "EVERYBODY" should assume its "plain and simple" to make an AA pup into "anything you want". While this is true, you won't find anyone here who will admit it. IMO...there is a lack of honesty, balanced discussion whenever this subjec...

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I greatly doubt in a hunting situation on wild birds that a dog can hold birds at even 500 yds most of the time. There come's a point where the birds get up the stones to try and escape.

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JKP

Be careful...I know there can be some unwanted side effects when you start trying to play with hormones. Don't know whether the follicles erupt normally when you push the cycle. I'd do some homework first.

JKP

I have no problem with folks who want to walk 1000 yds to a dog on point....knock yourselves out...life is too short not to enjoy yourself. I just have problems with the whole attitude that these dogs find more game, handle perfectly, look better, and that the other 99% (of the non-competitive dogs)...

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But they shouldn't expound on that which they do not understand. PLEASE!! spare me the arrogance... Here's a near 11 year old headed to the plum thickets...picture at 8X zoom. Its because I have seen and worked with both that I can unequivocally say that its all about amusement and has little to do...

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It takes an extremely stable animal to live the life and be able to perform well year in and year out. heh Fuzz...boy did you pick the right year to be in Florida!!! Stability???....if the same dog can sit quiet in the duckblind for 4 hours, I'll call it stable!! :wink: What's being presented here ...

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One needs to understand that a big running dog does not run by birds 100 yds. away to find birds 500 yds. away. Oh BOZ-WAH (as my father used to say...must be a New England expression). I swallowed that line until I went hunting with big running dogs and kept finding birds underneath them. Its just...

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So in the grasslands...(never been there) There are no objectives, tree lines, ridges, draws, rock outcroppings, springs, feed strips, etc..? Yup...a lot of the time.... http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g309/Drahtsundbraats/PA210003_zps652b11d8.jpg But, if they know the dog is there, they'll event...

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that you need to walk your rear end out there and harvest some, rather than slouching and making you wonder, and then making you walk, and then there is nothing there but it was hard to tell so you went. From the posts her, it would seem that all 1000 yd dogs are perfect because FT makes them so!!!...

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