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rinker

In what part of the country do you live. You would be tremendously ahead if you could have someone with a little experience work with your dog a little.

rinker

They may have a food source and have plenty to eat already. I had a farmer that used to catch pigeons for me. He would go up in his loft where there were pigeon nests that he could reach. He would monitor the nests and wait until the young pigeons were nearly ready to leave the nest. Then he would j...

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Most of the old school vets around me are gone. I drive a county over to go to one. Several years ago I took a dog in for standard shots, and I pointed out to the vet that the dog had a little 'growth' near one of his eyes. The vet looked at it, and then grabbed it and ripped it off, and said, he sh...

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I have English Pointers and an English Setter, and they are kenneled outside. They do just fine. I do agree that two would do better than one.

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I've only been a pro for 36 years

That's pretty condescending.

The flank collar is a great tool when used correctly. I have started using it and will never go back. It's pretty difficult to explain in a few sentences on a message board, but that doesn't mean that it's invalid.

rinker

[That sounds like you're using the e-collar as a command, rather than as a tool to enforce commands.*]

I think this is exactly why they call their program the 'silent command system'.

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http://www.amesplantation.org/field-tri ... -champion/

You will find a lot of info and photos and videos at this link.

rinker

I feel stupid, what is OB?

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I use the whoa post with the hitch around the flank, which progresses to an ecollar on the flank. This is the progression that I use. The dog first learns that he can release the pressure of the rope around his flank by standing still and not fighting it, no verbal command is give. Then the rope aro...

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It sounds like your mind is made up. Ask the fellow to take the dog back and give you a refund. If he does, that's great. If he doesn't, then find the dog a pet home and learn from the whole experience. Get some help from someone with a little experience before you start over.

rinker

Look up information on Johnny houses and exactly how they work. I would recommend putting a couple of johnny houses around the area where you work dogs. There are several videos on youtube about building johnny houses.

rinker

I run my puppies as much as possible in as many different places as possible and get them as many bird contacts as possible. I let them tell me when they are ready to be broke. When the pup is consistently pointing and holding and maybe letting me get in front a little, he is telling me that he is r...

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I have read this post a couple of times and I will make a recommendation. Find someone in your area that has some experience with bird dogs, it would be nice if they had experience with setters. First, tell them about your dog's pedigree. They should know immediately if the dog comes from solid hunt...

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I'm not sure what will work, but I'm certain that taking her to the skeet range is a very bad idea.

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Do you subscribe to the American Field?

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I'm hearing that Stardust Chazz finished the three hours with three finds.

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I saw an ad recently for a litter of pointer puppies. The first few sentences of the ad talked about the fact that these puppies would make hunting dogs, not 'crazy, run-off, good for nothing field trial dogs'. The last few sentences of the ad talked about the puppies pedigree, and how many champion...

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If you took a dog that was entered in the National Championship, and bird hunted him from foot in West Tennessee for a few weeks, he would begin to dig in to the woods and thickets and find every bird available also. I know nothing about the two 'meat dogs' that they used for their experiment, but I...

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There's a good setter running tomorrow afternoon, Stardust Chazz.

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I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a red setter puppy that had some 'Miller' influence in his pedigree.

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When I first started taking the American Field magazine back in about 1988, they listed all enrolled litters in the magazine. I'm not sure when this was stopped. I clearly remember seeing an occasional litter enrollment under the heading, 'Cross Bred Setter'. Does anyone know anything about this?

rinker

It was a terrible play call. To go for a touch down instead of a field goal at the end of the first half was also a poor decision, even though it worked. I do understand what they were thinking. A completed pass wins the game and an incomplete pass stops the clock and saves a time out. If they weren...

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I have two manual launchers and three remote launchers. I still use the manual launchers a lot for multiple flush scenarios.

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I like 20 feet.

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I don't see anything unethical about your plan. The only thing I would say is that if someone is letting you trap pigeons because they want to get rid of them, it might be unethical to let them fly right back. In that case, I would shoot them.

rinker

I know that many will disagree with me, and I know there are exceptions to every rule, but here is the advice that I give when someone asks me about buying a pointer or setter of any kind. "If you talk to someone that has puppies for sale, and they say that the puppies are AKC registered, do not wal...

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Does each dog have a kennel that size or are the all in together? I have three pens that size. I currently have seven dogs divided in the three pens, but that is a little unusual. I usually have four or five dogs. I moved a few years ago and set these pens up. At my former house I had smaller concr...

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I must be the dinosaur on this page. I have never had a dog indoors. I currently have seven dogs, all in outside kennels. I don't do anything special. They are fed and watered daily, In the winter ice is busted out of pans regularly. They have houses with dry bedding, and bedding replaced on a regul...

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I know that it is exciting having a puppy and it's very tempting to want to do everything at one time, but I think that you need to slow down. At this point the puppy needs a lot of time running, learning to go with you, learning how to cross a creek, learning how to get through a wire farm fence, e...

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I am a pointer guy and know nothing about labs. I have a relative that is an avid dove/duck/goose hunter and he always has a lab that seems to be a pretty good dog and does a good job for him. I honestly don't know if my relative has ever done one second of 'formal' training with any lab that he has...

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but few dog trainers have any measurable people skills I don't completely agree with this point, although I agree with your post in general. The dog trainers that I know will tell you that training a dog is easy, it's training their owner that is difficult. A dog trainer that can't deal with people...

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I wonder how many dogs he (Myron Shelley) had to FF to come to that opinion? I would guess that Mr. Shelley FF'd a lot of dogs. Mr. Shelley was a pioneer in dog training. My understanding is that he was the first person to use pigeons in dog training, he was the first person to use johnny houses, o...

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'The Pretender', This is one of my favorite Jackson Browne songs.

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Not that I'm aware of. I have a 3 collar tritronics system. In the event of a deer chase or something, I get the worst offender stopped and then quickly switch to the next dog.

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I can't believe I'm reading about dog farts.

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He has eaten a lot of pointers alive!

rinker

I think you are going about it the wrong way. First of all the puppy is young and it would be fine to expose her to birds, but with no real expectations and with no formal training. Second of all, there is no substitute for birds. You can substitute pigeons for game birds, but you still need birds. ...

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The best dog that I have ever been around, would not point a wing as a puppy. Throw the wing away and forget about it.

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I have been on two hunts that involved a guide. There were several guys in the group and we each threw in $20, for the tip. I actually do not even know how to calculate the percentage that this represents. It would be about 20% of the total price of the hunt plus the guides fee. It would be closer t...

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The OP's bitch is limbered Elhew Sinbad, who is a horse back open all-age dog.

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I have seen a couple of pups off of Four Rivers Commander, and really liked them. I think he is a Sinbad son. I don't know if your looking for more of an outcross than that.

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I opened this thread because I thought it was about one of my co-workers.

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If he is finished, he shouldn't need much training. Just work to keep him sharp. I have launchers but I try to avoid using them with older dogs. My older dogs get ran a lot in the off season to keep them in shape and to keep them handling. They find an occasional bird and that is usually enough. If ...

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There are a few counties in North-Western Indiana that have an excellent pheasant population. The rest of the state has none.

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When your out always carry a pigeon with you. Call to the dog, pull the pigeon out and let it flap it's wings a little. In a couple of days that pup will knock you down coming to you.

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I am making one final effort to get a few more entries for our field trial this Saturday. We have a stake for virtually any dog. We have a puppy and derby stake for younger dogs. We have a gun dog stake for dogs that are not steady to wing and shot. We also have a shooting dog stake for dogs that ar...

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Take your dog hunting, just keep your expectations at a realistic level.

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Imagine that, the trainer is apparently a good guy with the dog's best interest at heart, not a heavy handed, non-feeding abuser.

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[quoteThe OP was the initiator of the call. What is the Pro going to say, (the dog is coming along fine)?][/quote] If the trainer were a heavy handed abuser, who doesn't feed dogs, and is only in it for the money, I think he would have said that the dog is doing fine. [quoteIt could be just bad chem...

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The trainer is the one that alerted the op that there was a problem. The trainer suggested that the dog should go home if things didnt quickly improve. The trainer isn't trying to keep the dog for months and run the guy's bill up. The trainer is obviously concerned about the dog. This doesn't sound ...

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