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Same idea as a dog that becomes collar wise, except this time it is test wise.

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She has found out in that situation she can get away with it.

You need to set up a test environment and start making corrections.

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The dogs learn through experience what holds birds and what doesnt. Its hard to tell in video but im sure the dog was pointing in bluffs of cover. Your right though birds could be everywhere and the dogs need to be on their game. This is the beauty of a wild bird trial vs a liberated or throw down t...

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The idea of a trial dog is not to find all the game. Too much time and energy searching every bush. The dogs learn to identify cover likely to hold birds called objectives and cast out to those objectives. A trial is about driving your Ferrari as fast and hard as it can go for 30, 60, or 90 minutes ...

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No Idea. I have a Garmin and find theres a 5-10 second delay with the 320. The 430 has a faster update rate so I am assuming its a faster response time. Personally I like a longer time because it gives tike for the unit to recognise the dog has actually established point vs looking for the handler o...

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There are lots of dogs who are some of the best Cover Dogs, horseback or walking gun dogs, top NAVHDA dogs, NSTRA dogs that spend their days in competition or hunting and spend their nights laying on the couch or at the foot of the bed. I had one of the top young dogs in the country in 2014, he was ...

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Also- remember I want to be able to hunt these dogs together when they are trained and potentially when the pup is holding at least till flush, use them together to help train the pup easier and take pressure off it. I also probably won’t duck hunt too much or hardly at all when it’s real cold and ...

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The ideal point for most continental dogs is tail, back, and head, in a straight line. The OP said his dog was from German lines, his point sounds perfect. The ideal point is whatever suits the owners fancy. A dog like that appeals to you, I would out it up for sale pretty quick. I would have a har...

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Urban_Redneck wrote:The ideal point for most continental dogs is tail, back, and head, in a straight line. The OP said his dog was from German lines, his point sounds perfect.

The ideal point is whatever suits the owners fancy. A dog like that appeals to you, I would out it up for sale pretty quick.

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That sounds more like a finished dog vs a started dog. Your probable correct in thinking that. As Robert said "over here" in UK that is, the standards are wee bit higher than here in the states. I might add that the Canadians also have higher standards than the US markets. In the pointer world the ...

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That sounds more like a finished dog vs a started dog.

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Wild birds. However birds were far more plentiful back then.

Also more help was used as trainers were generally teams of 2 or 3 people.

With advancements in training techniques and training aids I dont know why you would look backwards.

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Doesn't $1,500 for a pup seem a little steep? You can buy a very nice started Pointer or setter for that money. The type of people buying continentals is whats driving the price up. My first shorthair was $800 ($600 usd) now a guy would be hard pressed to find a well bred pup for less than $1000 us...

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Jamie Daniels has a bunch of Poimters and setters available. Take a look at his Facebook page, Daniels Kennels. Most any pro trainer will have started dogs right now. They are fresh off the prairie all you need to do is pick up the phone and start dialing. Ike Todd, Jamie Daniels, Luke Eisenhart, Ta...

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I've rec'd a couple e mails asking "What is a started dog?" These are folks looking to buy and the advertising says, "He is a started dog." I have gave my own thought on this , but thought it would be helpful if others contributed. It could mean anything. That’s why some are priced at $1000 and som...

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Where do you guys live that you can bring puppies along like that?!? I've had 3 wild birds here in 30 years...a pheasant in 1990, another last year, amd a woodcock about 5 years ago. Used to be lots of birds, but no more :cry: Southern Alberta. About 3 hr south of Rich Robertson and Tommy Davis' ol...

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I learned this the hardway in the past. Now I give them one hunting season to do whatever they want on birds; I focus more on them hitting cover and working to the front. After that season I start working them on pigeons in launchers, by the time they figure that out its time to get onto a horse and...

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Neither. There are non mainstream brand cameras out there that are just as good if not better than both.

I have owned the Hero 4 Silver and my Eken H9R is just as good at 1/3 the price.

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Thank you Sharon. You're too kind! ezzy333, are you sure about that? If you are, why do horseback trialers (of which admittedly I was one) keep trying to turn their GSPs. Britts, Vizsla's etc. in quasi -pointers....with the emphasis on quasi ? Oh....and I have judged on both sides of the border. Sh...

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i hope your looking outside canada for a brittany. They wont compare to your pointer.

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Having worked retrievers, I'm familiar with casting retrievers (stop, sit, back, over, here, etc) and all the associated hand and whistle signals. Can someone tell me about casting in the pointing dog world, more specifically in field trials, and the types of signals you give the dog to cast? For e...

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I shoot a ton of birds every year and the only time there is too much lead to bother is if my hunting partner and myself double shoot a bird. Shot up birds are not a problem otherwise I wouldn’t be using the shells.

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I am an hour north of the Montana boarder. My set up for Huns is a 5.5 pound Over Under shotgun. This is important because your doing a lot of walking. So make sure it’s light and easy to carry. The gun is a 20ga and I am shooting 1 1/8 federals. They are in a blue box and cheap, no need for that ex...

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Side casting is generally frowned upon in FT. I also do not like it in hunting, wind can carry scent quite a ways and a dog will waste a lot of time running through cover that its nose has already found out nothing was there. I don’t mind a side cast if the dog is making a move to a line. But he be...

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Your time would be better spent entering a trial then walking or riding all the braces in that stake yourself. Watch the dogs and see who wins. After it's over you can approach the judges alone and ask what they were looking for. Why did this dog place over that dog but don't ever ask why that dog p...

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I’d say you got 2 options.

#1 you keep letting her do what she is doing and hope she learns to handle running birds. This can take a while.

#2 get the dog broke.

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Just call Beeline Brittney and talk to Nolan.....cut to the chase. They have a facebook page as well. I've watched alot of Brittanys and they really don't fit my fancy, they don't really excite me at all. A friend has a double bred Nolans Last Bullet male that's really nice. One of the few Brittany...

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If I'm buying a started dog he better do about everything but be broke. He needs to handle, even if it's rough, he needs to let me flush birds, he better pattern and run objectives. Basically a dog that's ready to head out to the prairies to be broke but it's still may or June and trainers haven't l...

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Ross has one. Caladens Da Vinci. He spoke pretty highly of Terry's dogs when he was training with Terry.

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There's a difference between catching a few birds and has learned he can catch birds. I had a dog that was good on wild birds but would not hold on chukar. He went rogue in a throw down derby stake, caught too many chukar and that was all she wrote.

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One of my Setters, a 43 pound male, direct son of Tekoa Mountain Sunrise, (http://www.tekoamountainsetters.com), with a haircut stayed with the best Pointers among the guide dogs in 80 degree weather. We also ran them in 90 degree weather, but only for 45 minutes at a time, cooled in water tanks fo...

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I don't know why most people don't get into it. It's really not any more time invested into trials than there is hunting, trials at the amateur level really aren't competitive as people think. It's not uncommon for you to run your dog one brace and scout another trialers dog the next. Alot of the ti...

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Most common reasons I've seen have been time and money from the bird hunters and lack of promotion from the associations. Many people just don't know where, when or how these trials are run. This was my biggest complaint getting into it as well but then I thought about it. With all the animal right...

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Rich Robertson JR @ Robertson Kennels.

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You can kill lots of birds with a 100 yard dog. You can kill lots of birds with a 400 yard dog. All about personal preference. I have owned both, and one is not any better than the other. Sometimes I wished my dogs ran a little closer! :) But I have to do alot less walking with my 400 yard dog than...

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It says right at the end. John Mathys.

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Nope. My understanding is that it's mainly grouse and Huns they're run on.[/quote]

Though that's the targeted game plenty get on pheasants. They dont grab the dog and run in another direction when the dogs find pheasants.

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If trialers are scared of wild birds then will someone tell me what they are doing all summer long on the prairies?

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Has Bo produced any winning AA dogs yet? From what I have seen he produces really flashy SD and gun Dogs but I wouldn't say he produces better than himself. Good dog but legendary?

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I want it to tell tell me what direction my dog is How far away he is If he is on point. The rest of it can be thrown out. I'd rather they put more effort into handheld collar sync times and less effort into the crap people think they need but don't. They are nice because they are easy to use and th...

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Eken H9R is just as good as the GoPro for 1/4 of the price. Accepts all the GoPro accessories as well.

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Alberta and Saskatchewan AF don't supplement either.

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Or because they spend their derby year catching these throw down birds. When it comes time for them to stand they have already learned they can catch them. Been there with that and that's why I will no longer run a throw down derby stake. You won't have that issue with wild bird trials. In our Regio...

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And there lies one of the problems of trials or conformation exhibits. There are things to be judged but there also need to be rules such as this example so it is always black and white. You can not judge something you haven't seen, simple as that. From what I have seen a good handler will pick up ...

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And there lies one of the problems of trials or conformation exhibits. There are things to be judged but there also need to be rules such as this example so it is always black and white. You can not judge something you haven't seen, simple as that. From what I have seen a good handler will pick up ...

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greg jacobs wrote:Will you have to have cell service for it to work

My understanding is no. It's the blue tooth you will need for the GPS. However the telemetry will still work without the BT.

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I use 4" 45 elbows for my traps. I will push my young birds through once or twice a day until they know how to get in. Generally same thing. Put food out then push them through the trap. Idea is so they learn when they come back the food bowl is always full. Then I just set them on the landing board...

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Good post Ray. I'll keep running my pups at a young age and on wild birds and they'll keep being "staunch" before their a year old. I don't say a word to my pups around birds and most are holding for me to flush by 6-9 months old. Miller made a difference in trialing and breeding because he didn't ...

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