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I've never shot a 28 but can't help to be skeptical of it's potency. Especially in high winds on peripheral shots. Serious question....what's the appeal of using such a light load? Your skepticism is both valid & flawed. 20ga standard payload is 7/8 oz of shot - 28ga payload is 3/4 oz..so only 1/8 ...

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Thank you sir..that second picture of your dog is just stunning as are many of the pictures in this thread. Bird Dogs are just beautiful. ..basket didn't last long..lol With a shorthair pup being raised in the house I figure half the cost of the pup being spent on replacing household items. My whit...

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Thank you sir..that second picture of your dog is just stunning as are many of the pictures in this thread.

Bird Dogs are just beautiful.

..basket didn't last long..lol

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Thanks for the info and for the pics Greg - looks like you have some nice hunting & nice landscape close by (sorry for the delayed response).

Your pictures answered one of my main q's..does your side of the mountain see the seasonal rains that the coast does? (I couldn't deal w/that)

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Short answer is yes, the barrels are interchangeable on combo guns. Keep in mind you can use less potent ammo in your 12ga however the greatest benefit derived from that tact is best realized by reloading. I think 3/4 oz 12 ga loads are readily available..if your shotgun has interchangeable chokes.....

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Greg - at first I was surprised by your post b/c I thought the middle of the state (south) was essentially grassland/flatland cover but a review of a map shows the town in your signature as being just east of Mt. Ranier. Although I've flown into Seattle, we haven't any real experience or much knowle...

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Rik..thank you for the additional information. The ways in which the guides track the Elk is very clever and not having ever hunted in an environment such as that, that’s precisely the sort of education I do not have. Seems so simple..lol You are detailing the precise areas that I hope to frequent a...

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If you, as the handler, are having difficulty with doing a forced fetch, you might try switching to clicker training and see if that works better for you. You can get an awfully good fetch with clicker training. It's a whole different training system and you'll have to learn the system, but it does...

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In my view states should initiate periodic "raptor control" programs to counter the effect of urban sprawl and loss of habitat due to efficient farming as well...but that's a different subject altogether..

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Thank you for the additional information. Good advice to carry along some slugs for the shotgun & thanks for posting the ballistics b/c the numbers really do put it in perspective. I would still pack a .44.. Glad this subject came up as it adds perspective..I know myself and I can say with fair cert...

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Not sure I'm adding any value to this thread other than what I know of the area. We spend time in WA around Kettle Falls and over Sherman Pass in Republic w/family. Have never had my dog on the ground there but have had ambition to do just that w/in the next few years as we aim to move back to the N...

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The insiders hate Cruz - that's a tell. (IMO) The left literally rigged the system utilizing the DNC - that is indisputable - that's a tell. Both parties (in large part) hate Trump w/veracity - that's a tell. I have personal experience w/this BS.. The crap that's going down within is utterly appalli...

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Here you go SpyCar..not everyones cup of tea but undeniable talent steeped in pretty significant musical lineage nonetheless https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le_vHnVPL5c The least I can say is Hank III and I share some country heroes, including his granddaddy. I'm really missing The Hag. Bill Yeah.....

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Here you go SpyCar..not everyones cup of tea but undeniable talent steeped in pretty significant musical lineage nonetheless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le_vHnVPL5c

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Here's another..

The world lost a musical giant with the loss of Prince..no, not b/c of Purple Rain..

Prince was a musicians musician by every measure

enjoy..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y

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Talent is talent

A bit aged now but fantastic nonetheless

..enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0B8Em4Aa7E

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I appears that I stirred the pot a bit .... Maybe I worded that poorly ... My SM has bird drive, he hunts for the bird, I just haven't seen much point yet I know he needs time to develop.. I was just simply trying to use the poor flying quail in a fun way to get birds in his mouth. As well as work ...

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Ezzy: My biggest fear for these children is that they are going to grow up with the color of their skin being a hurdle the have to climb and with no opportunity to improve life. Hope I'm okay to comment.. If the whole mantra about the black cause coupled with the notion of white entitlement is poun...

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I feel confident in saying that as a group college educated whites are smarter than non-college educated whites. Just as I can say that the average income for college educated whites is higher than that for non-college educated whites. In large part, I feel confident in saying that you are precisel...

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I'm pretty sure he didn't say that racism doesn't exist.

I'm 47 and hear the man clear as a bell...but I suppose with my white privilege and all, that's to be expected.

Thank you for your service to our country Ezzy.

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For the folks whom are touting the economy as "good". (Using the classic "baghdad bob" tact..lol) Why are precious metals along with the miners doing so well? Why is there consolidation going on in the mining industry worldwide? Why is Copper so beaten into the ground - how about Molybdenum? Why ca...

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For the folks whom are touting the economy as "good". (Using the classic "baghdad bob" tact..lol) Why are precious metals along with the miners doing so well? Why is there consolidation going on in the mining industry worldwide? Why is Copper so beaten into the ground - how about Molybdenum? Why can...

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I will jump in this topic. I am going 3rd party on this election. I just can not back either major candidate. I know many who will tell me I "should" vote for one or the other because I am throwing my vote to the "other" side. But if I am going to vote I am not going to pick an evil just because it...

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Bottom line is this, I don't know you - you don't know me. I could go on and on defending my position with empirical evidence far removed from my own situation and I could quantify things by stating facts about things you simply do not want to know (or want to believe)..it's what it is. I call BS on...

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1. Your facts are laughable and do not represent the real world in America today..I apologize if my vocabulary does not strain through a filter. 2. My sincere apologies if you have taken my comment as insult..I used words found in any generic dictionary in order to emphasize my thoughts on the subje...

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How in the world has this thread transcended six pages ~ this is a bird dog forum! It's pretty simple, if you want more of the same vote Hillary - If you want to mix things up vote Trump. America as it stands today is basically screwed folks..vote to continue the path of a lost American identity..o...

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How in the world has this thread transcended six pages ~ this is a bird dog forum! It's pretty simple, if you want more of the same vote Hillary - If you want to mix things up vote Trump. America as it stands today is basically screwed folks..vote to continue the path of a lost American identity..or...

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pffft - that makes it easy ~ Valley Girl..of course.. What would be a good call name, not Valley? Please bear in mind the source here..my bride being the quintessential 80's girl..let's just say that on any given night, it's a party at my house..either Abba or the Go-Go's or any other myriad of upb...

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mountaindogs wrote:Female lab

pffft - that makes it easy ~ Valley Girl..of course..

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The inclusion of some water work & some fun-time in the water sure goes a long way if it is an option. Always make sure to cut the dog a little slack if their nose isn't quite up to what you witness in the coolness of fall. An unsteady/green dog should be monitored a little closer as bird contact ma...

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Guess I’ll be the contrarian view here.. arkanian..bird dominance from your little puppy who has never even been exposed to a live bird before..c’mon, let’s not get ahead of ourselves here..time to graduate from that wing on a string. Also..by the looks of it, yes..your pup DID learn an interest in ...

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..not sure I'd be too quick to "pile up" on this guy (trainer) arkanian..here's my advice..sit back and learn..you did not witness any abuse (which would be my guess) The guy's arm is in a sling for goodness sakes..how's about the benefit of the doubt?? ..another pc of advice..when fortunate enough ...

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This is a very important election - do not stand idly by - get out and vote.

It is a shame that Teddy Roosevelt belongs to the ages..a dam! shame.

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We have a good bit of experience w/them. They work great but they are not an end all be all solution for every situation. What I mean by that is there are many variables toward success and all dogs are different. As with just about anything else the successful use of one is primarily rooted in the o...

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A good friend has a Stoeger and it is hard to recommend. Might I suggest having a look at a CZ, my choice would be the double trigger Bobwhite & a 20ga is plenty for Pheasants - especially over a dog. I know it's a little late, but why the hate for the Stoeger? I have a Condor 20ga. and I've liked ...

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Cannot say that I have experience with the particular gun that you have but congrats on finding a pc that you like. My advice for the tightness of the assembly (machinist term)..use the gun..you can accelerate use by working the well oiled levers pivot point while watching tv or whatever to mesh the...

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JMO. Save your money a little longer and find a Benelli M1. M2, or Montefeltro in 20ga. used. If you ever decide to sell it you have something that will resell for what you paid. Light, quick to point, choke tubes, low recoil, adjustable stock to suit her, and safe. In regards to cheap break open g...

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IMO - uber-heavy loads are way overrated.

An ounce of #5's along with sound judgement regarding the shot seems to be adequate.

Remington Express shells are good.

Standard loads of #7-1/2's do just fine on preserve birds.

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JMO. Save your money a little longer and find a Benelli M1. M2, or Montefeltro in 20ga. used. If you ever decide to sell it you have something that will resell for what you paid. Light, quick to point, choke tubes, low recoil, adjustable stock to suit her, and safe. In regards to cheap break open g...

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A good friend has a Stoeger and it is hard to recommend.

Might I suggest having a look at a CZ, my choice would be the double trigger Bobwhite & a 20ga is plenty for Pheasants - especially over a dog.

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Pheasanttracker wrote:Atlas said $50 off. i was looking at the patriot. i think it sells for around $500 but might have been $600

AT-50..same as Patriot but made using different materials..the SS construction of the AT-50 is extra money well spent in my view.

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Consider this post an endorsement for the Atlas (AT-50)

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This works both ways. In Minnesota you need a permit to train or hold an event on public land. On two different occasions I have planted my birds for training only to have a NAVHDA group show up and tell me I could not shoot there because they were holding an event and one time a dog club was holdi...

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I was running down the road one time already 15 over the speed limit with a semi tight on my heels. The section of road was only one lane each way w/double solid lines separating each direction (no passing). Anyhow, lanes turned into two just ahead of a traffic light that had gone red. Once the extr...

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The only thing I would agree with your shelter folk is 'When two females don't get on and allowed to, them bitches take it far more serious and personal'' than most guys :lol: lol..no doubt about it, what the man says be true!! :| -- Although not a large sample..we've never had any issue no matter ...

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Timely thread..lol Don’t really have much to contribute other than possibly comforting others whom may be in the same boat as me. My wife The animal lover & vet tech / receptionist The one whom indignantly proclaimed that she was NOT going to be left taking care of the pigeons when I got them for do...

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