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Gordon Guy

I heard that the field trial grounds known as Mile Post 9 burned last night and this morning. That's bad news! The fire is still burning. There's a lot of country there and not much access to stop it.

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Neil, Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I'll consider what you said.

I found what I needed by viewing the video again, at 7:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paKEj47Em54

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Neil, Don't get hung up on one word...

helpful...think helpful

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I noticed that my Gordon will start balking and give me a slower response when I use the e-collar on continuous (Set at the lowest level I can detect a response). I guess that could be her "Shutting down". At that point I find a good place to stop after she complies with my next command and come bac...

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I have been Skijoring with my Setters a few times. I have a 2 dog set-up, It's fun. I should do it more. Benefits?... Getting outside and getting exercise in the off (Non-hunting) months. Advise???...Work the dogs into it by letting them pull a sled or someone while you handle the dogs up front on a...

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Trekmoor, As evident by the attached Youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I56pvuEK_0 I get frustrated with the handlers in these videos and how they just stand behind the dog... and wait... and wait...and wait...and wait...and wait...and wait...(I'm thinking all along, For Gods sake help t...

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I don't think after seeing pics of setters on point on this forum that the British setters habit of "setting" would find much favour in America. It's reason enough to consider not breeding the dog that "sets". To use your term. I often wonder if the crouched pointing attitudes of many of the pointe...

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As a Gordon (field lines) owner since 1988 and a breeder (field lines) since 2003 I've had several adults (16+) dogs and I've noticed that there's a difference in the way my dogs move when compared to continental breeds. I do enter my dogs in hunt tests and AKC trials so I am able to compare as most...

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Valley Quail like to run MUCH more than Bobwhites. But if you use launchers that wouldn't be an issue. I would recommend using a launcher anyway to get a good flush from the birds, as pen raised bobwhites allow dogs to get to darn close for my likes. Poor flying pen raised birds have caused far more...

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Only specific breeds can be entered in specific field trials. Such as Pointing dogs, as defined by the sanctioning organization, can only be entered in Pointing dog trials. And Retrievers, as defined by the sanctioning organization, can enter retrieving trials. And Spaniels, as defined by the sancti...

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Basco wrote: I am looking for one that I don't need to be one a horse or be a track star to keep up with it!!! Haha

If that's all you're looking for, there are a whole lot of Gordon breeders to choose from. I would say that walking gun dogs are the rule, not the exception.

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Define "original"? The AKC standard changed in the 60's, I believe. And continues to be changed. The size standard for the dogs was made larger. Generally the dogs now, dual and show lines, are larger than they use to be before the AKC standard changed. What size are you looking for? The majority of...

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You might try feeding another brand of dog food. Something with different ingredients then you're feeding now. Sometimes I've noticed a change in those types of conditions when I change foods.

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You're right (What should I feed my Puppies?) is a can of worms.

Some people feed puppy food... others do not. I've had bad experiences when puppies grow too fast. Others may not have experienced those same things. If you do feed a puppy food, feed a large breed puppy food.

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There's more to dog food then measuring your dogs performance for 30 minutes to an hour. Therefore, a dog having success in field trials isn't the bottom line indicator for me. A good hunting dog will give it's all, and more, to find birds. There's recovery time, stamina to go again the next day. Th...

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luvthemud wrote:As a coyote hunter, dog lover, and someone who considers myself an ethical outdoorsman.....I had a hard time watching that. Actually, didn't even make it till the end. So many things wrong with IMO.

+1

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Do you crate her when you're not paying attention to her? If you do crate her, does she go in the crate? If she doesn't pee in the crate try putting her in the crate when you're not paying attention to her and when you take her out of the crate take her directly outside to the same spot. The crate n...

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What do you consider training? If it's an hour run in the field then wait, but if it's just yard work then there's no need to wait until for 7 weeks, After a couple weeks she'll be spending less time with the puppies and some yard work would be fun for her. And as for waiting for 7 weeks to let the ...

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It works....Also, I can't shoot a starter pistol in town so I bought one of the kid cap guns. With the red plastic caps that are in a circle. It's not like a shotgun of course, but it still provides more temptation for the dog to break.

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Oh, and this dog has been through FF already this past winter. I think sometimes I'm too hard on him when he breaks (I'll man-handle him a bit to put him back in place) but I'm trying to take a calmer approach... It doesn't seem to have affected his desire at all. Because I work Setters I have foun...

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The launchers are not visible when I place them out. I agree with the comment above that the dogs are not pointing scent at this stage of the process. They can see the bird bag on my shoulder. After a couple times of training in your yard your dog will know what you're up to. They figure it out pret...

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Yes, to your question. I don't have a helper either, so I use various methods. Yes, I use launchers, starting by putting the launcher further away and as the dog starts getting the idea I move them closer to tempt the dog more. I also use bird bags that I carry over my shoulder. The dog is on a chec...

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I'm raising my price...:) Well to be fair, I'd probably only consider a half dozen or so labrador litters per year to be exceptionally well bred and, if I don't see the dog and bitch this week at the national amateurs, I'll see them in a few months at the nationals. They'll need to have complementa...

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I'm raising my price...

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My experience is that young pigeons that haven't been used much or are new to the game, (have not been used in Traps before) don't seem to fly very well and will sometimes land just feet away from the launch site. Now I use the older more experienced birds and leave the younger birds for "distractio...

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http://www.lcsupply.com/Pigeon-Loft-Pla ... tinfo/PLP/

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I have them removed. Never heard an argument to the contrary.... I'll do some research...

I suppose some animal rights groups might consider it unnecessary mutilation... like clipping ears on some breeds or cutting the tails when the pups are young.

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I had one that small. I quickly out grew it. I felt bad for the birds. Lion Country supply has plans for a coop like that.

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Hey Don, Thanks for the kind words. It was a pleasure meeting you and all of the others from the Oregon Brittany Club. I was treated really well. You guys put on a class event over there. I'm sorry I couldn't stay for the AWD photo shoot but other responsibilities were calling. I hope we cross paths...

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Welcome back!

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luvthemud wrote: Their high energy level can be a little overwhelming at times.

X 1000

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I've heard it said, that the biggest and most important difference between a trial dog and a hunting dog is the owner. The owner (trialer or hunter) guides the pup through different processes depending on the goal.

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FYI - I've heard cracked corn is not good for pigeons. Some folks steer clear of it because it's quick to get moldy and is said to cause canker...?? Check it out.

The commercial pigeon feed I have used does not have whole corn or cracked corn in it.

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Try a different food...I had the same thing happen and I ended up netting them at night. Now that I look back on it I should have tried a different food source to bait them. Might have worked

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It sounds like you're having fun with him. He's only 4 months,right? I wouldn't worry to much about his range at this age as it sounds about right for a 4 month old. You may have had a precocious Brit, but Setters are a little different. Keep it fun. I've heard that the returning woodcock are good t...

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You're keeping me in suspense here. How did it go on Sunday?

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Welcome! Looking forward to hearing about your progress. I've seen a few Pudelpointers and they were a handful.

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It's not the first event that gun shyness is displayed, it's the next event.... Many of us have done it (Taken our dogs to the range) without knowing the problems it would cause. Most dogs will be fine, some will be made gunshy from the experience. And it's totally our fault because we didn't know a...

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I've had similiar experiences with my dogs. In addition to removing the hot wire, I believe that if you don't shoot a pigeon for them every now and then, they get bored with them. Try shooting a some pigeons for them to reignite the fire. It's a fairly quick thing to do before you try something else.

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I thought about it ..once...

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Where can a person get the book and or DVD? Is there a website?

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The breed has a reputation of being a bit headstrong here. You might say headstrong = I might say lots of desire to find birds. So much so that one of my dogs will only voluntarily come into the house and lay down when it's dark outside and the birds are no longer about. Otherwise, she's up at the ...

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Now that you know she hunts and points. I would take this opportunity to teach her "whoa". Teaching her to "Whoa" or "to Stand her birds" can be done in several ways. That way when, and if, she starts creeping in on her birds next season you can stop the behavior. Do it before the creeping becomes a...

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If there are any fishermen in this bunch answer this question: What color lure is recommended when water conditions are muddy? The answer is black, because it's more visible. In my experience black is easier to see in the chukar hills and out on the flats. Also, I heard that the darker the skin on t...

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PM sent.

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I looked into it a couple years ago, for reasons I can't recall and the rules, as of then, still allowed the registering of cross bred setters (E. Setter to I. Setter or to G. Setter).

This thread has taken on a life of it's own. It has been Interesting.

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There are good dogs in all the breeds, but....If you want something that won't leave foot prints on the ceiling, MUCH prettier to look at, and shoot just as many birds, consider a Gordon Setter.

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I agree with what DudeRN wrote (above) +1

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You know the weights on the Tri SxS? No I don't... I like light guns but not too light, that's why I like the 28 TriStar (411D) not as light as some but much lighter than others. I haven't weighed my 12 gauge 411D but it should be under 7 lbs. The stock demensions (From the factory) are generally 1...

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