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JONOV

Unless the breeder registers the litter, a very low percentage of family companion/ hunting dogs are registered. Only about twenty percent Of my puppies are registered and most of them are mine. It does not make a lot of sense to me to force a buyer to register and get a NA or junior title on a pup...

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As an admitted "Old Timer", I've never understood why people strive to make dog training so complicated. Everything has to have a label which only serves to complicate and confuse more. I have never understood people's needs to do that. It all boils down to when a behavior is rewarded, it's positiv...

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When training a force retrieve, the ear pinch or toe rope or what ever is the stimulus that causes the reaction, which is to grab the object. That is the only reaction at the ear pinch stage. Possibly a command to release. The dog knows nothing about hold or anything else it is all about grab the d...

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Sharon wrote:Welcome to the forum.

#2 Kennel your dog when you are at work. Dogs are stolen from back yards regularly. Have someone come in at lunch to walk your dog.
( I had a dog stolen.)

Assuming the back yard is out of sight of those driving and walking past, I'd do a chain link run during the day.

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I have not read one single post in the thread that completely explains Positive enforcement (including mine and all the links) :( Some have parts of a picture and others are like "Quotes" from others ! That includes our learned friend Ellis. .... It works great when you get the right understanding ...

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The AKC stopped publishing total numbers of registrations around 2010 I think since it was becoming too obvious that they were in steep decline. Now they only publish a list of breeds in order of popularity (I think that the actual numbers may be available in the year end report issued to members.....

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I’m not as concerned about the wirehairs, for all I know it’s an aberration; I’d have to see the raw data. Is the difference between 72 and 60 1000 dogs or 100? The Shorthairs do concern me. They are too popular already. When poorly bred, they’re often anxious, tightly wound creatures, traits made f...

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Do not let attempts to distort this discussion with an "Only PR" smoke screen That's the thing....People seem to use it to pigeonhole others. They assume it automatically assumes a Fenzi-like philosophy on dog training. I remember a training day hosted by our NAVHDA chapter. A Pro trainer, and form...

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When I used one, I would actually put it in airplane mode as soon as I put it on the dog. I did that because I was in an area with no reception and didn't want to zap the cell phone batteries.

Never had any problems with it.

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How old is the dog? My wirehair was a nightmare to crate train but it was largely my fault. I'd crate her at night, through the night, waking to let her out to potty. I'd also cover the crate; that helped in my experience too, the darkness. They don't see what they're missing so they don't pitch a f...

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Using the tone on the e-collar has nothing to do with any objections with the e-collar, anymore than wood used in gunstocks is a complaint of the Gun Control crowd. Its just a sound the dog learns to come back. Its one of the best things I've done with my dog, I can quietly get him back to me, be it...

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AKC, UKC are mostly what I've seen for retrievers. FDSB, NAVHDA, FCI, and Canadian Kennel Club are also reputable registries, though I don't know how much you see retrievers on them. FDSB is predominately used by Pointer/Setter crowd, though my German Drahthaar came with FDSB papers, and AKC and NAV...

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Thinking again about this...I sent my dog on a dove retrieve that he didn't mark, but the dove was visible to me from where i sat. He struggled to find it. But, I'd take a walk around the field and guys would say, 'I couldn't find on here or there' and he'd come out with it.

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It's called "air washing" the bird. When they fly through the air their scent is "washed" off them and dogs can't scent the. I've had that happen in cover, couldn't find the bird, left and a scent pool had built up. When I got back,dog got the bird no problem. I can buy that for a dollar . "I mean ...

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Wet pen raised birds often struggle to fly.

He probably pointed, then took them out. And they couldn't fly away. Others will have better ideas how to address, but in the meantime, don't hunt the game farms when its super wet.

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I feel sort of dismayed after reading these posts. I'd always imagined game shooting/hunting was easy to get in the States ….or certainly by comparison to Britain ….easy to get. I got "priced out" of two little syndicate shoots I once belonged to here. Then the farm I'd trained my dogs on and shot ...

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Total mystery to my why everyone thinks you always have to be looking at the Astro to hunt a dog. I only look at mine when either the dog's been gone to long or I hear the beep and feel the vibration, telling me dog's on point. I take a good look at the arrow, pick a land mark and walk to the dog. ...

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Its hard to find myself agreeing (in part) with Mr. Bailey again, but here we go... He's right that the barriers to entry are somewhat big if you don't have a mentor that's willing to take the time that a Father or Uncle normally does to introduce you to hunting. Its expensive, but it ins't always a...

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I just got back from a pheasant hunt where we covered some really tall switchgrass cover. I hunt with Brittanies (smaller stature dogs) and once they were about 20 yards away I couldn't see them any more. It leaves me wondering where they are and if they are on point frequently. Most of my hunting ...

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Again, many still seem to resist the idea that dogs do not need to be fed before being worked (hunting, pulling dog sleds, etc.). Most of us who understand this is dangerous avoid this as it can kill the animal. I will not feed my Golden's after the morning before a hunt day! I want their stomachs ...

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While I fully support that there is no logical case for the banning of dogs on furred game, thinking that the practice would work equally as well in all parts of North America as it does in the deep south is naive and romantic. If you noticed the scale on the monitor in the truck it was set to 500 ...

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Marketing. Like shortbread on a biscuit Tin. ..So many buy the tin . .. Perhaps the other way round ,Not many that I know are sold/marketed from one side to the other ? :roll: :wink: Exactly...They buy the tin. As my brother said about fishing lures, "You know why they make so many colors? Fisher m...

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I'm going to get flamed for this...But I'll say it anyway. If they're UK Natives, and have connections to bring back Nice, well bred labs and are decent trainers, they'd do well. Is it the perception among some N. Americans that British bred labs are better trained by British trainers JONOV ? By th...

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For the threats and challenges facing bird hunting, in the present, near and long-term...the legislated removal/prohibition of gundogs is waaay down the scale of importance...if the scale is at all of a practical nature. Once again, the shallow pool from which you are dipping jon(?), serves neither...

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Jon: How did your bird hunting project go? Just so you are aware dogs don't " merely chase deer", Dogs kill deer. Anyone who lets their dogs run at will should be liable for the damage they do. It is legal for anyone who sees dogs running deer to shoot them in the winter months in Minnesota. It is ...

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A friend of Mine already an established Handler/Owner with a couple of dogs (Retrievers) at MH - HRCH Resident in USA ,was thinking about this model as a "Business" . Curiously at the same time I have another Friend who has just re-located to the USA from the UK ,with the intention of similar . Jus...

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Whoo Boy... I'd say that ignoring it is a start. But I'd also talk to a behavorist/obedience trainer in your area. This stuff is what they deal with day in and day out. It is, kind-of-sort-of, a problem that the breed is prone to, in the same way that Labs are prone to getting fat and GWP's are pron...

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The relative difficulty of birds is so heavily influenced by conditions that the conversation seems kind of silly. I don't think any bird species is inherently "smart" or "dumb," its a question the conditions relative to the lifecycle of the bird, and how educated they are. Its not that different th...

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What does this have to do with a GunDog forum? To be fair, I don't ask this crowd if I have concerns about a dog with crate rage or severe separation anxiety. I go to a suburban obedience trainer friend of mine. Just because she deals with that type of stuff a lot. People here run their dogs hard, ...

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You won't have the same manners develop naturally that someone with access to Wild Birds does. BUT, if you are making several trips a season, then you can likely do just as well as someone that has them in their backyard. This will depend on the dog, the bird and the terrain being hunted but is gen...

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Yes, you can totally do this. In Idaho we have a permit called a Sport Dog and Falconry training permit - I think I paid $20 for a 2 year permit - I am not sure how common this is in other states, but might be worth looking into. This allows me to go out on public land and plant pen raised birds ou...

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2 part question Is it possible to train a dog with placed birds if there are no wild birds in the area that you live but you’re traveling to areas with wild birds a several times a season? Is it ethical to train a bird dog when you don’t have the wild birds and can only take them several times a se...

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I was looking up NAVHDA results and noticed the Small Munsterlander has some good placement up in Big Sky and Rocky Mountain. I had looked into these guys in the past but like many of the versatile breeds listed for NAVHDA I thought of them more as pointers. It looks like this might be a good optio...

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Thanks for the advice guys! I think I am going to maybe bump up to 2.5 the evening before, and .5 the morning before. The preserve has pheasants, quail, chuckar and Huns, so I think I am going to have them put out 5 quail and maybe a hen pheasant. I was cautioned to not put out a male pheasant for ...

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If tracking is a high priority, look for one out of the VPP-GNA or otherwise one with an import up real close. Most imports seem to come from Czech Republic or Austria.

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I would skip the morning feeding. Dogs are not like humans, digestively speaking. Our stomachs empty fast and food goes slowly through our bowels, but dogs' stomachs hold food for a long time, and then food goes quiclky throigh the bowels. A well-nourished, well-conditioned dog won't suffer from mi...

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Here followed closely by "Leave It!"

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The only thing to watch for in a WPG is that they are more overbred than PP's. PP's have no "Show" or "Pet" breeders to speak of. Not saying that precludes research, but its more akin to buying an FDSB pointer. There are plenty of good Griff breeders out there, though. Bob Ferris who is one of the p...

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I kind of think that AverageGuy and Polmaise are talking past each other. Walking at heel for example, even when hunting, is unlikely to be a situation where a dog would need to be "hunting." In a UK Field Trial (For Labs,) as it has been explained to me, the dogs are required to walk at heel, in a ...

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My only concern about height in a pigeon loft is keep them low so you can catch the birds easily. 2sq. ft works well. Ezzy While my design, and the abandonment-in-place of the coop "sounded like a great idea at the time," I do have a half man door I can scoot in and plan to use a fly-fishing net to...

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Welcome to the forum. A year and a half outside only ? Not to discourage you , but a challenging task if at all possible. I finally went to the use of a dog door which fully solved the problem. (Your post does appear in "Tell a little about yourself" You need 5 posts approved initially. ) I've done...

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Dont know about you guys that side of the pond , but Chicken Coops are Ground base ,and Pigeons are living higher . Separate sexes require a perch or box just big enough for a Pigeon to perch without touching the neighbour with an outstretched neck and beak. Pairs ,require double that space if you ...

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What's the guideline for SF (or vertical feet if its relevant) on a per-pigeon basis?

I'm looking at converting a chicken coop to a Pigeon Coop.

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Wish we had them in the wild around here. Looks likes fun. I wish we had anything in widespread numbers around here. I wish they'd MAGA and log then entirety of the Nantahala and Pisgah National Forests so we'd get some more grouse too. Jonov, I hope when you say entirety you mean small blocks of s...

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Beretta Outlander or Winchester SX4 would be my vote. Both can be had new in your price range, just saw the Beretta advertised at Cabelas for $699.

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NC Quailhunter wrote:Wish we had them in the wild around here. Looks likes fun.

I wish we had anything in widespread numbers around here. I wish they'd MAGA and log then entirety of the Nantahala and Pisgah National Forests so we'd get some more grouse too.

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Training at any age, needs the correct methods tailored to the specific puppy/dog. Using the correct methods (as in all positive, lots of exposure) a great deal of excellent work can be done starting very young. If a person is apt to do it wrong when working with a young puppy they are still apt to...

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Be sure you have the proper size crate/kennel for crate training. If the pup piddles in the house it is your fault. It will piddle in the house. You are a bad person:-) I like to put the crate with the pup next to the bed, so if the pup is crying I just hang my fingers into the crate and say someth...

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I can't tell you much about the dogs in terms of the GSP world but the sire and Dam (and Grandparents/Great Grandparents) would indicate that you have a top notch dog for most field trials that would tickle your fancy. They're all FC's or AFC's, a few Beauty Queens in there to boot. FC=Field Champio...

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What feedback have you had from him about progress? Did you talk about goals and what he thinks he can do and/or what you want done? Personally, I think that a huge problem folks run into is they don't have specific goals for the training, which can lead to miscommunication and disappointment. For e...

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