Gun Dog Forum

JONOV

A little more context might help. I’m a weekend hunter with an aging dog that was also my first. My current dog is a nice little hunter that if I had the time or desire could earn titles. I’m buying my second puppy soon and have a nice litter picked out. Just wondering if non-hunting dogs come out ...

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Don't the tests that supposedly reveal what breed a dog is use breed characteristics for their IDs? So their data base has breeds with certain things like coiled tails, coat color and length, size, eye color, and all that, then they match the sample's characteristics to the data base? How is it so ...

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Unless things have changed the dna test used just shows the parents are the parents. If mars testing or the equivalent are used things may change . I would guess some eyes would be opened as well. Cross breeding is still going on. Hmm...I wonder about those. And, honestly I wonder if its a good thi...

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I don't think anyone should be judge and jury of what breed anyone else wants to have, as a gun dog or a trial dog. I can't think of a single breed where a buyer of either type dog couldn't get what he wants. I've seen dogs of every pointing breed (qualifying to say I mean akc registerable breeds, ...

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I am fixing to start hatching out bobwhite quail and chukar and seen a video about Tibetan quail. He said people used them to train with and was wondering if anyone on here has ever used them. They are a Coturnix breed so I was wondering how good they really fly. I know a lot depends on how the qua...

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You can't undo what was done to the gsp's. People's need to win made them do things and hide it. And there were some really good white pointers that helped them to achieve some of what they wanted. So what was done is a done deal. I think it added style and speed. And gave people the ability to add...

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Very happy with the Dogtra Pathfinder.

That said, I wouldn't use it as a training collar. The shock function is nice if your dog takes after a deer or really won't listen, but too cumbersome for practical training work.

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Jonov, I completely agree. Been there done that myself. I guess what separates them from you is you don't tell folk your chickens are as good as the best or try HARD to push/turn your chickens into something they will never be. THAT is the difference. I completely understand why folk might not want...

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Well said Average Guy/Greg. I guess what I am asking is, "Why do you want to mold a GSP into a quasi-pointer to use it in an AA environment when you can buy a pointer? There is a downside. Your are developing GSPs that are no longer "GSPs"! They are short-tailed pointers! Again... why not get a poi...

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Longer than what you expect to see on a Brit, but I wouldn't give it too much thought. I know one GSP breeder that intentionally leaves them longer than what one sees typically. He says you can see what the dog's thinking/feeling better that way. I have to agree with him. GSP's/GWP's are "supposed" ...

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My setter is now 3 years old. He has had many birds shot over him in North Dakota, few shot over him here at home as the grouse numbers are down around here and there’s more woodcock found here than grouse lately. I’ve decided that with all the natural ability he had for me to be able to start his ...

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Honestly I use whatever body wash or shampoo I have on hand, and then spray them with a shea butter skin care spray that my wife bought at the fancy pet store in town. The bottle was a little expensive it seems but its lasted 2 years and is only half gone. The Spray is what stays with them, even a w...

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That's very interesting. I guess I'm too cheap to pay a trainer to unlearn something! :oops: I agree, you are to cheap. Passive aggressive replies are a sure way to get the same in return. Nothing nice to say, then move on. Try unlearning your own behavior issues then you will be a happy person. Th...

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A solid black GSP does not work well in the south due to the heat. I watched a litter of 8 week old pups run around playing one spring day. The colors ranged from B&W patched to almost solid black. We quickly noticed the pups whose backs were more solid black appeared to get more hot and got hot qu...

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An example In theory if I buy a pup from Breeder X who has done health testing on both parents, been in the breeding business for years and making the breed better every time he/she breeds shouldn’t the pup I buy from Breeder X be good to go? Or have a really really really good chance of being good...

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An example In theory if I buy a pup from Breeder X who has done health testing on both parents, been in the breeding business for years and making the breed better every time he/she breeds shouldn’t the pup I buy from Breeder X be good to go? Or have a really really really good chance of being good...

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You have been given some good advice on training a good recall. The Perfect Start/Perfect Finish DVDs are excellent and give you a complete visual pattern to the same if you are looking for some training materials. Some thoughts for you to consider follow: The Best Wild Quail dog I have hunted over...

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of which I've learned. I think the best approach is to get my own female and breed her. I've trialed him on UFTA and he as done well, I guess I was hoping to find someone within a neighboring state or so that I could get together with and evaluate the dog. I have full medical clearance from his hea...

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Ok. Let's clarify that "bird dog" for many means "pointing dog". Actually, I agree. But here, let's call it a dog that hunts (and maybe retrieves) upland birds, including flushing them. I had a friend who hunted pheasants over a Beagle. He always claimed Girl (not an original name) was the best phe...

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It is self-evident that you are doing good deeds by so closely involving yourself with rescue. I write checks on occasion for GWPCA rescue,but that's the extent of my involvement. On the other hand, with a wirehair of each sex, bringing a stranger in would be dangerous..to say nothing of my wife's ...

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It must be regional. I try not to run them when it's 100, but we're in the 90's from late May till mid September. We run in the evenings, and usually close to water, but they still make 6-8 miles over an hour or so. Arkansas summers and humidity might be rough on them, but they have no problem chas...

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Rescue GSP's go for $475...That's a dog that's been surrendered to the pound, pulled from an abuse case, owner died, etc...A dog that someone gave up on or mistreated. I don't think you'll have much luck at that price point. Start a coffee can now and put every penny you can in it and don't tell yo...

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Rescue GSP's go for $475...That's a dog that's been surrendered to the pound, pulled from an abuse case, owner died, etc...A dog that someone gave up on or mistreated. I don't think you'll have much luck at that price point. Start a coffee can now and put every penny you can in it and don't tell you...

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It depends. Day-to-day, he rides in the car. He sits mostly in the back seat, where I have a cover. He starts out sitting up and back like a human, looking out the window, then lays down when we get up to speed. I know it isn't as safe as other options but its easier than manhandling the kennel in a...

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Well said U_R. That would explain it for the most part. Perhaps the more rare breeds are an exclusion but GSPs, Britts, etc. have breed specific trial dogs too though, right? They do, but around here at least if you got to a field trial it is a rare continental breed that runs. Even in the handful ...

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This thread is not about the merits of the dogs, it is about the price of a pup. The average new pointing dog puppy buyer could not care about a 12 o'clock tail or how far and fast the dog runs. that is all an acquired taste that comes with experience. Yeah, in a way it is about the merits of the d...

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Talk about a urinary olympiad... Almost any working or hunting breed, can be mismatched to its owner, from Border Collies to Jack Russel Terriers to GSP's...Some dogs have reputations they don't deserve, some deserve a reputation they don't have... The relative merits or suitability of a dog seem to...

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Puppy biting isn't the same as aggression. The whole "no-bite" thing while closing their mouth, or the gums over the teeth, have been done forever and don't ruin dogs. It isn't rocket science, no more than teaching a dog to sit for a treat. Frankly, if your dog is damaged by the "no bite" and jaw cl...

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Hey, I did have an orange and white setter once. She was an All Age trial dog that the owner was needing to rehome from a divorce and I was needing a hunting dog because my Brit had just passed away. That dog made me rethink what I had been told about trials and trial dogs in the popular press, NAV...

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Here in the southeast, if I only excercised my dog below 80 degrees, I'd kill him, with my bare hands, since he wouldn't get exercise 8 months a year, and would be a pest. He is also shaggy, even for a GWP, and black roan, so dark. You appear to be in the Desert? So what I do might not work for you....

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All BS. It is a waste of time. All a money game and has no bearing on the future of the pups. Some breeders have an in with a vet and send in the same x rays to get all their dogs good or excellent OFA. All a scam. Is your dog healthy and has good mobility, then breed it. If not don't. That kind of...

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I'll either bring a water bottle or collapsible fabric bowl. Then, he'll turn his nose up and go drink out of a stinking puddle.

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Nothing against LC Supply but you can buy pine shavings from Tractor Supply. A bale is about $8.00. Not sure the exact dimensions but it was about what they want for the $50 bale. Not as strong smelling as cedar but still smells nice.

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[It's not a criticism of the dog, or the breed. They're intelligent. They're highly trainable. But there's a reason that Cops and Military use Malinois' for K9 work (as opposed to Narcotics Detection, Bomb Detection, etc...) For the most part, dogs chosen by the police and military come from Europe...

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Its not surprising from what I've heard when it comes to training those breeds. I've only heard of "hanging a dog up" though if it bites the handler. They're smart, and want a job...The hard part is that they're also bred to bite. Hey, don't go saying bad things about the guy's dog. You'll cause hi...

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So her son finally came to the house to show me how he was working with her. Well he lifted her completely off the ground when she would not kennel with a choke collar. He said the trainer he took her would apply enough force till she almost passed out and that he needs a bamboo whip, I dont know w...

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Thanks for the info. The picture is a bit deceiving, I've been told he is at a good weight but his ribs can be very visible at times . A bit off topic but I am impressed with how strong shorthairs are. At 6 months and around 18#'s less he would retrieve this tire up a 1acre hill until I made him st...

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Sounds interesting. How do you change the correction level. Can you use it for training without the phone connection It really isn't for training. The correction level is changed on the phone. I used one on a trip...Nice, and great for making sure you know where your dog is. If you see the dog beel...

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Mine was about finished growing at a year, filled out a bit since then but has been stable the last five months at least. He's Two at the end of May.

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I was more or less curious to the history behind the color just to better answer the questions I constantly get asked. I personally prefer the black dogs, lightly ticked white and brown dogs being a close second. As an inexperienced trainer I have been more than lucky with his performance, I never ...

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Frankly, outside of Labs, most dogs don't naturally want to retrieve a dummy more than a couple times...

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I've never met a Golden that really didn't want to be with the family... My parents got a used Golden Retriever that we were told was afraid of water (6 years old when we got him.) THis was a dog that was an otherwise extremely bold male, with quite the prey drive. Fur sharp, too... We likewise got ...

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Solid Black or Black Roan? I think that some of the FCI countries frown on the solid black but that doesn't mean they're any less GSP for it.. But its only in the US that they penalize the Black Roan... Does anyone know if the VDK-GNA approves the breeding between a solid liver and a black roan? Tha...

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Rarely is the acquisition cost of a quality pup or young dog a issue - within reason. I just purchased a cracker of a pointer pup with HOF breeding right up close. The cost was $500. She is a gem at just 14 weeks - smart, calm, strong, clean, very well put-together, self confident, with a pedigree ...

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I am expecting to have a puppy shipped out to me from out of state. My airport is fairly small and will likely have to travel 3-4 hours to pick the pup up. Delta has same day options but they are pretty long, much longer than if I were to fly out and pick the dog up, waiting on an inquiry to AA. Wh...

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Labradoodle pups over here cost more than Retrievers pups with titles in their parentage !..Mind You..Some retriever pups with Titles in their parentage are advertised for sale above the price of a pup from a Labradoodle because so ! and they are no more value to some than the other :wink: You want...

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I am in Az and looking for a new pup. I am not set yet on gsp or brittany. I will not trial or compete the dog at all it will just be a family and hunting dog. I have noticed lately every breeder I talk to is $800+. I had two GREAT gsp pups I bought from different breeders a few years ago and paid ...

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run around the yard with her and she'll probably go...

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Call around to some groomers...a neighbor had a pitbull, 8 or 9, same deal with bad teeth and bad breath. The groomer used some enzyme based paste. It really seemed to help, the teeth were notably whiter, etc... Are you giving your dog real bones? Meaning a beef knee, a rib, femur? My dog gets those...

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I'm not 100% sure exactly what you are asking. As far as a "training plan", I don't know of any e-collar that really comes with a plan. Training is a whole separate thing than learning to use an e-collar. And before start to use the e-collar you need to understand that the collar is to re-enforce w...

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