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Finally, the wet weather stopped and i got a chance to take Pepper out and see how his "whoa" training was going....he got a bit close to the bird because of the lack of wind but he held point really well. I was very pleased.

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here is a brave visitor i had today........this rooster was sitting less than 10 feet away from all the dogs. he didnt seem to care about all the dogs barking at him.

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i have heard of this happening but have never experienced it until now. i have a GSP in heat right now. I stuck a female lab in the kennel next to her about 8 days ago. the lab was in heat a couple of months ago but today she started to drip blood again and is coming into heat again it looks like. i...

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this should answer your questions...

http://www.akc.org/pdfs/rulebooks/RHTRET.pdf

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that is a good way to do it. the trick comes when you take the leash from around the belly and just have it attatched to the collar and get the same response. dogs know when you do it this way that the pressure around the belly means whoa and sometimes when you start to work the dog without it they ...

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I have to think you run hunt tests/trials with your dogs. I do agree that dogs that run those events do need to see throwers/bird stations, etc... but this dog will never set foot at a dog event so that isnt an issue. This dog will be getting a ton of marks with someone throwing the marks as it prog...

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There was also one more intended result of this......to show how a dog progresses in a training scenario. i havent really seen any dog training videos that have shown an unscripted training situation like that and how the dog progressed from obviously not wanting to sit out there all alone to runnin...

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That was the intent, for the average guy training his own dog. I actually did use remote bird throwers but they were too far for the camera to see.

I will be doing more of these down the road with a hunt test style to them, with bird throwers and so forth.

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Had a good training scenario today with a lab i am training. Worked on a remote send with the dog. I wrote an article about it with video footage from today's session.

http://sprigkennelsandsupply.com/dog-tr ... ing-1.html

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Hi, My question is this, is it normal for him to not point and go at the quail right away? I have noticed him doing that a lot, if he find the quail that I had planted he jump at the quail without even stopping to point at it. Thanks Jake yep, perfectly normal at that age. the pointing instinct wil...

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So Rooster my GSP is about a week shy of 7mo, since he was about 3mo I have been taking him out in the field for runs. This has left me with a couple of questions. 1. if I run him in the field by himself he will only work at about 60-70yds, if I bring my lab along and let her walk at a loose heel (...

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As I said in previos post Im still working on the Hold command Everyday for 5-7min with my male black lab 9 months old. Were getting pretty good at it, but no means is it good. He will hold but but wants to drop more often than not when I am not right next to him. This is going on a month of this, ...

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I wanted to throw this question out there because I think there are a myriad of opinions amongst trainers as to whether to touch a dog that is on point or not? I know that some are proponents of kneeling beside a dog and stroking the dog while on point? We have probably all seen someone walk up to ...

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the best thing to do with the wings is pick him up and take him off scent when he is on poing but i agree with the others, dont mess around with wings and put him on birds.

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keep working with him on them. it takes a while for them to set in actually, especially at that age. Until they go through the rebellious stage nothing is set in stone yet. keep working with him but dont expect him to be too perfect at that age and always keep the bird work going as well. i am of th...

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kennel cough is a lot like the flu. the vaccine doesnt always work. i have had my own dogs vaccinated and they still came down with kennel cough and they never were kenneled anywhere or around a lot of other dogs. the treatment is easy so it really aint a big deal if you catch it early enough and ge...

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it is possible but dont be to quick to keep her in range as she is learning to find birds and hunt. that will come after you get the dog flushing birds. get some pen raised pheasants and work her on those to teach her to use her nose.

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I don't want to hijack this thread, but something you said, Sprig, made me think of my 5 yr old GSP. I only got him in November from a breeder who had him returned to her. He was doing great on lead/checkcord with "here" in the yard so I introduced the ecollar very slowly and he responded well to t...

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if you are going to teach it to hunt, i would either not teach it sit or wait until you get it whoa trained first. i get dogs in for training that are taught to sit before the whoa training and it sometimes makes the whoa training a bit harder and longer because the dog wants to sit down every time ...

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if you use the wind to your advantage and work the dog crosswind you can set him up to where you will know when he will go on point and if you have a long check chord on him you can use that to help steady and control him so he dont bust into the bird. if he is ready, i would also start to teach him...

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For those that wonder how valuable a remote bird launcher is, watch this video. This dog is only 7 months old and is in his first month of training and having him come so close to the bird could have been disastrous if i wasn't using a launcher. I do have to admit, for a young dog early in his train...

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I don't think your going to see heeling with a loose leash for a long time with a GSP. I have to agree with this. For some reason i find it is hard to get pointing dogs to heal because they have been bred so much to get out and run and it is unnatural for them to be at our side like a lab. It can b...

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i would just let him be a dog for a few weeks. play with him, bond with him but dont expect too much from him until you see he is comfortable with his new environment and family. Spend time with him everyday. Put him on a long check chord so he can move around a bit and get used to his new environme...

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The only thing I can tell you about "started dogs" is that the term means whatever the person who is using it says it means. Yu need to pin down EXACTLY what the seller means by the term and you need to have them physically show you what the dog is supposed to be able to do. A responsible, honest b...

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i think gun dogs and house dogs go together, it gives you more time to bond with the dog and vica versa. my very first dog started life as a kennel dog for the most part and then a few years later he came inside full time and lived most of his adult life in the house and was a master hunter lab as w...

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how old is the pup? if it is a very young pup, say 10 weeks for example, if you dont do anything with it for a month or so i am betting it will forget all about sitting. their memories at that age are very short. if it is an older dog, i would maybe start on the whoa command now and get that in the ...

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When working on your dog's steadiness, if he keeps wanting to bust in and grab birds, what do you do besides keeping him on the check cord? Is this where I would use a launcher while keeping him on a check cord and when I see that he's scented the bird, release the bird if he does stop immediately?...

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you are right, nothing beats the real deal when it comes to birds. some of the best training a dog can get is spending time on pheasant hunts in places like north dakota and south dakota, for example. a week in a place like that is like 6 months of regular training. and fun too

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I've been looking around at dogs and have been helping my friend train his dog, thus the pigeon question. I really like the looks of pointers and i was wondering if pointers are a good dog for first time owner and handler. thanks I would say that any breed could be good if it came from a top breedi...

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you can simulate wild birds with a half dozen "homed" homing pigeons and a remote bird launcher. it is a cheap and easy and very effective way to put your dog in front of a lot of birds where there aren't any.

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to finish em up like that I will say it does require some whoa training but i usually dont do that until the end part and i have gotten all i can out of the dog naturally. for the guy that just wants a dog steady to flush a lot of times all that is needed is a ton of birds, a bird launcher and pract...

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you got to love seeing a dogs 1st point.

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I also feed it and go through 50lbs every two weeks. By looking at these posts I pay more than most on here, 28 a bag. IFA stores here carry it and sometimes it goes on sale for 24 a bag. I usually buy as many as I can afford at that time. I have been real happy with it. I fed the edurance for a wh...

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I have used the hunters edge but prefer the endurance blend. if a dog has a weight issue and cant keep weight on i switch them to pro athlete.

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i agree with the wing clipped pigeon idea. if he shows no interest with that then he just might not have enough retrieving desire and may have to be FF. if he does show interest you can start by using dead birds or wings taped to a dummy or something like that to give the feel of a bird. dont use th...

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i agree with the pigeon comment. all i use for months is homing pigeons. a pointing dog owners best friend is a homing pigeon and a remote bird launcher. once the dog is where you want him to be with pigeons then switch to game birds.

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anybody that knows me knows i am a HUGE believer in letting the dog develop naturally as much as possible and not put too much "training" into the dog if not needed.....here is a short video of what i like to see in a dog. this dog is about 6 months old or so and has only been on birds for less than...

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my neighbor had a similiar problem with his setter and fixed it with an e-collar.

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i have hunted forest grouse with labs for 18 years, both blues and ruffies and love how well they do.

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i feed all my dogs twice daily. if nothing else it gives me more time to bond with the dog, check on them, clean kennels and just make sure their aint no problems......

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you can have the dog wear the collar at any age really as long as you dont turn it on and just want to start to collar condition. start using pressure only after the dog has been obedience trained with a check cord.

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e-collar training is an extension of obedience training and should not be started until after the dog is sound on his commands. you can start anytime on having him wear a dummy collar to start conditioning him on wearing it but no stimulus until after his obedience is done and i usually start that a...

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+1 good advice.

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the earlier the better. as soon as you can, get the dog playing with live pigeons. i have had dogs as young as 12 weeks old retrieve live pheasants and as early as 6 weeks old fetching bird wings. you cant start too early to build the prey drive and birdiness in a bird dog.

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i know this is a pointer site as i run shorthairs but also love labs and wanted to say It is with deep sadness of his loss that i report that i lost my old dog sprig this week. he passed away at 16 1/2 years old. he was an amazing animal and most likely one of the oldest living master hunter retriev...

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I am not opposed to it and if it is working for ya, keep doing it. I have had great success just using it on the neck but that has alot to do with the entire program the dog gets here. there are many ways to train a dog. the problem people run into is when they take bits and pieces from another prog...

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although the "standard age" for e-collar training and condtioning is generally accepted at 6 months of age, it is not really related to age as it is to the dogs temprement and mental developement as well as early obedience training.

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why do you have the collar on the dog's flank? I treat whoa like stay. whoa-ing a pointer is just like teaching a lab to be steady on a retrieve. its all about stay....if he breaks, nick him and immediately put him back where he was and keep telling whoa and keep petting him and adjusting him if nec...

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