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romeo212000

You know why you like hunt tests Bill? Because you're not competing against anyone. Just the standard. You don't have to worry about your dog getting beat by another dog because they're not competing against one another. You're a coward and that's painfully obvious to everyone on here. The TOP lab ...

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It may be personally rewarding, but your dog did not prove it was on the same level as other successful nstra dogs, including the one you ran against. You think it does, but it doesn't. . If I Matched the Top dog there at NSTRA, as a newbie, with a newbie dog, and was within 60 yards and a wild flu...

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It doesn't matter whether you matched him or out found him by one bird. Which, if it doesn't get on the card it didn't happen by the way. You can make all the excuses you want, and take whatever personal victory you think you earned there, but your dog hadn't proved crap. heck, it hasn't even place...

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I was braced with a NGDC one time and we won our brace. Didn't get a single placement at the trial, but I guess I should have quit trialing right there and declared my dogs as being better than all National Champion dogs. I didnt buy a Hunting dog to chase ribbons and planted chukar with over 40 ac...

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We bested the best dog there, outfound him 3 to 2, though bird 3 was a wild flush, out of bounds and not counted. By anybody's definition of a "find" other than your own.....you didn't "outfound" the other dog. True. Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda... But matching the best and this close to outfinding was ...

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Once again bill. Just because you matched finds with a successful NSTRA dog ONCE doesn't mean jack crap. I see you chose to ignore my example I gave following that ignorant statement you made so go back and read it again. When you've put just one nstra championship on a dog you can say your dog has...

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Assuming you are typing for Fritz, do you have any pictures to compare physical characteristics. Also, have either of these anumals been bred before and how did those pups turn out with respect to resemblance. I've seen RGU Rusty sons noticably bigger than him and heavy linebreeding on Dixieland's ...

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Bill you can come run in the Region 9 SD CH in Idaho, its ran on wild birds. In fact Dgfavor took runner up with his GSP, that he hunts like 4 times a week with! Fancy that.. Im not too interested in driving to Idaho X Country to run, but thanks just the same. My dog does what I need it to do and o...

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Assuming you are typing for Fritz, do you have any pictures to compare physical characteristics. Also, have either of these anumals been bred before and how did those pups turn out with respect to resemblance. I've seen RGU Rusty sons noticably bigger than him and heavy linebreeding on Dixieland's ...

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Just prepare for the worst in hopes for the best. What will you do with the pups you cant sell or place? What will you do if the pup/dog is the victim of a family split up and will be turned into a pound? Will you take the dog back? What will you do if the new owner discovers the dog has bad hips o...

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So is everyone pretty much on the "you should be fine, just watch for anything undesireable" camp?

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So what was the original point to this thread? Can a great hunting dog be a great FT dog, Yes IMO Can a Great FT dog be a great Hunting Dog, Yes IMO But a IMO a higher percentage of great FT dogs will make great hunting dog, than the other way around. If that is not the case, why are people that on...

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What does JG think of the breeding? Although there are a lot of terminations on Rusty, the pedigrees on both are fairly outcrossed. He doesn't seem concerned by it. I spoke with Scott Townsend at the nationals in Nebraska a couple weeks ago and have him a little information on it and he said he'd p...

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If you think splitting the field with a quality nstra dog one time proves you can consistently run with the best nstra dogs you have now lost what little credibility you ever had. Sounds like an easy cop out to me. Go try to put just one nstra championship on a dog and come back to me. When I first ...

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Then you probably shouldn't discuss dogs you don't actually have first hand knowledge about. Surely you're just patronizing me with the name now right? Do you guys even know how silly most of you look and sound? Have you wondered WHY Your sport and numbers are dwindling? Its because of elitist atti...

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I would have preferred you not use examples as though you have first hand knowledge of them when you actually don't. FYI Nolan's last bullet was a horseback champion as well. Just some food for thought. Everyone here KNOWS Im not a trialer, like or see the merits in trialing, or espouse trialing. S...

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I only referred to him as Nolan, because Chukar12 did, mentioning progeny from Nolan. See otehr thread. No I said Nolan's Last Bullet ...and that was the dogs registered name his call name was Buddy... Just as you may call your DD Sgt Schultz or Colonel Klink or something similar while his breed wa...

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I do not beliee you can breed too tightly if you do it right. If you have two dogs with clean gene pools science and historical results says you should be safe. If it's two dogs whose backgrounds you're not aware of I would tread a little lighter. I'm talking from purely what I've studied NOT what ...

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I 'm sure many here will agree with this. There seems to be the overwhelming opinion that hunting dogs are second class...that only trialing is the proof of the pudding....and without competition ...well, not worth mentioning!!! Why do you do this? Are you suggesting that people should trust or bel...

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Anybody else know enough to weigh in here?

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I can only speak to the venue I am familiar with (nstra), but I will say in my experience every successful nstra dog can be a good hunting dog, but not every hunting dog can be a successful nstra dog.

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My female will do this. It's usually not a really bad exaggerated wag. Just a quick back and forth, almost exaggerated quivering. When I get about 20 yards away it gets as solid as can be. It's gotten better with age and experience so hopefully that continues.

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That black Rusty dog is the only shorthair of his color I have ever liked the looks of. I have a friend with a son of his that is a gorgeous dog. My only concerns would be the heavy Dixieland's Rusty being linked with lupoid dermatosis and the somewhat early death of Fritz. I bet they'll be lookers...

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Well I have hunted behind and seen the females parents compete countless times. Gunners sire speaks for itself obviously. Thanks for the input.

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I have a male and female gsp I'm considering breeding. I think their traits would match up very well. Both are great dogs and I would expect the pups to be very nice as well. The problem is I am a little concerned the breeding might be too tight. The female is a granddaughter of crosswinds truckin f...

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Troy08er wrote:Great looking grounds. Looked like a lot of fun. Do you know the breeding on the winner. Thanks

His name is blazes black magic. He's a son of black magic blaze and cullifer Reno. Black magic blaze also sired black magic buzz. An 8x nstra champion and oklahoma region elimination winner.

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This is something that really concerns me. I've known two great dogs that died from this. I wish I knew exactly when I needed to not let the dogs run during that time.

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Just wondering how long to road the dogs and how fast been doing it three days a week for 1/2 hour around 18mph lookin for what others do If you're going 18mph I doubt they're actually roading. That would be awful fast. In order for a dog to be considered roading they must be pulling against whatev...

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Just wondering how long to road the dogs and how fast been doing it three days a week for 1/2 hour around 18mph lookin for what others do If you're going 18mph I doubt they're actually roading. That would be awful fast. In order for a dog to be considered roading they must be pulling against whatev...

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Remeo, there times that I have seen terrible bird planters but that is few and far between. Also I am not advocating that this tracking stuff is the end all to be able to compete in the game. It is NOT. There are other methods that work as well or better on given days. I guess ideally one would wan...

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Remeo, there times that I have seen terrible bird planters but that is few and far between. Also I am not advocating that this tracking stuff is the end all to be able to compete in the game. It is NOT. There are other methods that work as well or better on given days. I guess ideally one would wan...

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Cajun Casey wrote:It is official. UKC will be recording NSTRA titles on UKC dogs' pedigrees. Will be interesting to see how this affects dog games. HRC is monster popular in some areas.

Great news.

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First off. I have never ran a dog in a NSTRA trial but it doesn't make sense to me that the dogs learn to track the 4wheeler or horses. Maybe so in the first few braces but when you get to brace 12 or 13 that means the planter (whether on horse back or ATV) and the judges have made at least 36 trip...

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I'm not sure about all breeds of coturnix quail but I do have experience with Pharos and Tibetan quail. Both are significantly small and extremely hearty. They mature in about 8 weeks. They don't fly nearly as well as a healthy bobwhite and I don't recommend using them on a young dog you're teaching...

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jimssetters wrote:Any interest in Ch Go For Broke? He is a few hours south of me. Valadetorian is also at the same kennel.

Had a buddy get two pups that had hytest sky hawk as the sire and Valedectorian as grand sire on bottom. Very nice pups.

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Depends on what your looking for. One that comes to mind is hytest sky hawk. If you are interested in a nstra stud I would consider Tomoka's Smokin JR.

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I noticed that. Is nutrical quick energy?

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Hey all, I did a little searching and found some information on this subject, but basically I'm trying to figure out what would be the best thing to have in my dog bag at field trials and hunting for quick energy. For example, last weekend I was at the NSTRA region elimination trial and had to run t...

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Redfishkilla wrote:Not well for me and Sandy......Sassy won with Davison's shorthair Rex as first runner up...Congrats on Gunner!! Sandy did win Derby Dog for the WTX region though.

Thanks. Congrats on winning derby dog. Who'd you hear about Gunner from?

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There is one trait that makes a good NSTRA dog....bird finding ability. It also helps to have a fast dog that covers the field 5 times in 30 minutes. This spring, Texas has had a lot of dry hot days of trialing. Here's a question for the NSTRA folks. Do you think it's poosible to train a dog to slo...

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Huge rangers fan here. But I have to ask. Could he shoot?

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That depends on what your definition of successful is. If you're definition of successful is be a top nstra dog then very few. Most people who get one will only have one or two. If your definition of successful is go out a few weekends a season and find a couple birds each time and maybe place a cou...

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The barrier of entry into the nstra game may be low, but anyone who thinks you can train and maintain a top nstra dog quickly and easily hasn't been at the top of the nstra game.

That said, the work I've seen on every one of those bdc shows I've seen has been garbage.

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Buckeye_V wrote:Again, I think we are talking a lot of different scenarios here. Terrain, range, vision all affect the outcome and none of us were there to see for ourselves.

The biggest factor some here are continuing to ignore is the OP was under a tight time crunch to produce the bird.

romeo212000

It is common courtesy to wait for the backing dog if it is anywhere close. That is not the way I see it. If a handler is stalling and killing time for the other handler to score a back that is cheating not common courtesy. If your dog is pointed you have to make every effort to find and flush the b...

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I won't comment on the nstra format, because I don't do nstra and I don't know their rules. Because other event types have been brought up, I'll comment. This is supposed to be a gentlemens sport, sportsmanship should be in play. I've watched some pretty downright dirty handlers over the years, wat...

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He looks nice. I prefer the look of shaved brittanies. They look more like bird dogs when they're shaved.

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It sounds tome like the dog was not backing behind him and the handler wanted to bring it in for the back. 2 different scenarios. If the dog was already backing, then I would say wait. I don;t care what venue and what competition. That is dirty if you flush and fire without the other handler presen...

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It is common courtesy to wait for the backing dog if it is anywhere close. You don't want to put that dog in the position of seeing the flush, hearing the shot, and breaking simply because it was not ready for what was going to happen. That would especially be true of a fun trial, which is just a t...

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Even if his dog had backed I would not stop my flushing attempt to wait for the other handler to catch his dog My understanding is that you must wait for the backing dog to be handled by either the handler or the dogs judge once that it has established the back regardless if you had already began y...

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