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Industrial spray water bottle. Corrective tool for bad behavior.

Socialize that bugger as much as possible!

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Just one question for the folks who close their stakes - If you put on your trialfor just your breed - how does that help your breed? If you just compete amongst yourselves, how does that make a better britt or a better weim or a better anything? Just curious.

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I dunno. I've seen clubs do that before and it was because they did not want a "certain crowd" there. I think it speaks volumes about their intentions. I've seen representatives from each breed capable of competing with any of the other breeds. It really is a shame.

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Excellant post Dan. Thank you!

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We switch to a maintenance formula during off months and ramp back up to the high protein fat combos during months of high activity. It works for us.

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Again, I think we are talking a lot of different scenarios here. Terrain, range, vision all affect the outcome and none of us were there to see for ourselves.

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It sounds tome like the dog was not backing behind him and the handler wanted to bring it in for the back. 2 different scenarios. If the dog was already backing, then I would say wait. I don;t care what venue and what competition. That is dirty if you flush and fire without the other handler present...

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If that was some cheap shot at me, I'm gonna let that roll. Any person on here who has ever seen MY vizslas would NEVER question their desire. They just know it's a good idea not to piss ME off

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It makes dollars, baby!

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Yeah, get a smarter dog like a vizsla and tell them not to do it.

I think all breeds are prone to it. Put a cap on the kennel.

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Right on brother. Like people, trust is earned in my dogs.

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No kidding Ezzy. Ever see a dog point a snake? I know that dog never saw one before in it's life, but man did it lock up on it!

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A person who has seen a fair number of dogs performing the task you want to buy it for should be able to pick out characteristics they want. The training and biddability would be something very hard to discern by a newbie.

I would ask around for that trait.

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There are going to be some seriously screwed up dogs if y'all run with me :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You can run with someone who has different commands than you, but just be prepared to get your dog's attention adn redirected accordingly. Otherwise, you just got smoked :oops: Also, if you think you're...

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If you wanna be a big boy or girl youhave to own up to what a big boy or girl could get as punishment.

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Breaking is breaking. Distractions are distractions. All you do is overlay the bird

It worked like a freakin' charm on the dog in my signature. Ask my wife

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You can do it, with the right kind of dog. Eventually you will need birds, but I broke one with less than 25 contacts with actual birds.

It's a secret, but you can do it. You just need a dog geaked about something in addition to birds.

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They have to earn your trust. if you don't trust him to be steady, then don't let him run that big. When he does transition to that, hide someody in a a treestand or downwind behind a roundbale, etc. Give them the e-collar receiver or bird launcher remote to do the dirty work. He is young. Get him s...

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#1 - Take the launchers and put them away. There will be time for those later. #2 - Take some time off #3 - Get her into LOTS of bird contact without launchers. Wild, planted, etc. You might find a local club putting on a trial, test or event where there will be lots of birds. Run the pup afterwards...

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I do understand your post. I reread it and a person could have taken it as a....... (like McFly in the Back to the Future movie)..... take your dang hands off it, field trialing..... With a quivering voice. Broke is an adjective that is best understood by any kind of testing standard because the rul...

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We practice don't ask, don't tell over on this side

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Sure. He had the 7 in 1 shot administerd under the care of the vet. Within minutes he was staggering around the room, losing control of his bowels and breaking out in welts and rashes. The doc had to administer an epi shot, I believe. We took him home and within an hour was covered in dime to quarte...

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That is my winter waterer that I keep on a heated base. I don't like that system. If I HAVE to do it again I will build a cage to go around the waterer so only their heads can go through the wire and a roof over the waterer to keep most of the crap from getting the water. I tipped it over to drain t...

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Nope, not a field trial statement at all. Broke dog stakes. Nothing to do with field trialing at all.

Once again, you have worn your sentiments for field trialing on your sleave again. This is so tiresome Ezzy. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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It means anything. Buyer beware and go see for yourself.

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We'll stick with our good advice and plan, thanks.

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No, sorry dude.

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Sounds like a stocking or distribution problem. TSC probably bought a TON up front and distributed well. The single point stores, not so much storage area and haven't been able to maintain good par levels.

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IF that is true, man is that poor planning.

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I think of Broke as per the AKC, AF version. Steady to wing and shot, and as someone else added - through the release as well. I think being BROKE to that level is essential. That is my definition. I don't think broke could be anything else, IMO. Broke = manners. Taught or inherited.

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http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=283784225024699&set=a.211780042225118.49414.100001793708635&type=1&theater This is my bird pen that is attached to a storage shed for tools, etc. The amish built the whole thing and slid it into place. All i had to do was add the mesh and the metal roof. 1/4...

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No, I did not have problems giving shots. Dog got a 7-in 1 at the vet. Had a reaction. Bad reaction. We no longer blindly give that shot. We get their titers tested first (based on the suggestion of my wife) and then give the individuals that are needed. I think somewhere along the way you latched o...

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Broke = steady to wing and shot.

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And I have yet to find a feed as good as I am feeding for the price point that does what I need it to do for ALL of my dogs. Diamond labeled bags aren't cutting the mustard at my house. Everyone is different, but don't tell me for a danged minute I am spending extra for it. I am so tired of that sil...

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#1 - If I think the pup is going to catch the bird - I don't put it out. Once they get used to birds in general I move to chukar and homers right quick. #2 - My dogs are both pretty good runners and I don't thinka check cord ever hurt their desire to run bigger. It's a system. You start with them on...

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True. They are tools to be used for specific situations and not all. I use launhers to fix creepers and to help with STF, but once those issues are licked I leave the traps in the shed. I use the e-collar to trashbreak and teach recall and then put it away while I am breaking the dog. Once they can ...

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I don't french kiss my dogs, so we r good

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OK dude.

Did you ask them about titer levels, what is harmful and what is not?

If the dog's titer levels are at a certain level the shot is not needed. If they aren't then the shot is needed. Pretty simple science, really.

Even a britt guy could understand that

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OK. I never said that dogs will point traps and not birds. I said they become wise to them and what they do. I don't care for all that when I am training. They are used to fix things, but not every danged time on the ground. At some point you have to transition away from them and I find it easier to...

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Our secretary knows how to fill out the paperwork and submit it to AKC. They are not the most knowledgable often times and frankly have no desire to answer all of those questions but have no problems giving them to someone who can and does like to do it. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if that p...

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I like having my cap on my truck. Being able to haul "crap" under my 8 foot cap is enjoyable to me. I use my truck for more than just trialing and I like the cap. I think it gives me more options down the road, but that is all subject to change I guess. I imagine taking the cap on and off all of the...

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I only use them to fix an issue here and there. I think reliance on them is foolhardy and the dogs become wise to it. Just my opinion.

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What you need is what I have. Get yorself an intermediate recovery area to limit the damage. I have a small 2 x 3 area with bobs and a slide door at the back that leads to the main coop. I check immediately after a training session and let the birds back in. Slide the door. Predators kept out. Knock...

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I've seen them, but am thinking I will need to have one custom built. All I need is room for a twin mattress or cot.

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I would be more apt to use a door to door service IF I had to ship a pup. I don't care if it takes a few days more if they do it right. Sounds like they do.

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I won't give away my trade secrets

You might try a strong breaking dog.

You might try holding her back and watching the other dog break and then let the younger dog go. not too long. Hold about 5 seconds.

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If a guy were to go and look at a new horse trailer, what are the must haves and nice to haves? Looking for a 3 horse slant or stock combo with an unfinished living quarters or dressing area. Preferably a bumper pull. I don't have a lot of dogs to keep at the moment. Looking for something to comfort...

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You can say it's the same formula, but it ain't. I tried it and the dogs do better on 4 Health. Go figure.

I am not saying its the best. I am saying that is what I have found to work for me and my dogs. I don't listen to economics. I listen to what the dogs tell me and what they show me.

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You guys are crazy. Each one of my dogs get 2 cups every day of For Health Chicken and Rice or Performance. Buy it in bulk on sale from TSC. Works for me. Bash it, i don't care. Dogs love it and do better on it than aything I have ever fed before, and I have tried a bunch. Chasing rainbows? i think ...

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