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NO ONE HAS A PERFECT DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!! ABSOLUTELY NO ONE!!!!!!!

My 2 HRCH UH/MH titled female Labradors have issues.. You can train a dog too do anything that you want, but it still might and/or isn't PERFECT!!

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Gundogs, did I miss it, what are you wanting to produce? Foot dogs, trial Gun Dogs, potentially a winner of the Nationals? What are the weaknesses of your female? Conformation issues? Etc. I'd start by talking to Bob Merkel, I'd consider the many awesome dogs that BDK is running that are producing ...

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I agree with everyone's opinion and appreciate them as well.

A sire that is a producer is even more of what I am really looking for, NOT just titles, looks and so on.

The sire must be a producer and a credit to himself..

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I think Dave hit the nail on the head but if you just want names of dogs to check out see: Ruger & Spot in the Midwest, Sonny and Flash out west just to name a few. Charlie has Rusty-line dogs down south. As you know nearly all of the dogs of today are probably at best 10-15% Rusty. I agree with Da...

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I agree with everyone. Until you get the dog into the field, you just never really know what you have. That said, The best hunting dog I ever had was the runt of his litter. In the litters that I have breed, I have seen the runt out think the bigger litter mates. I think it has something to do with...

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Having a female that is HEAVILY bred Dixieland Luke/Rusty.. Who would you breed her too? Knowing that you want to keep the bloodlines going. But yet willing to mix the bloodlines up for Versatility, Style, Desire, Excellent nose, stamina, excellent bird prey, natural retrieveing and back, biddable a...

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My Grandpa said runts can be from far breeding, like couple one week then 2 weeks later atthe end of her heat cycle. Makes a smaller pup cause he isnt as old so to speak. He said to make sure the cover happens at least twice in one week. Not sure if this is correct but he sure knew his dogs. I have...

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I picked the runt out of a litter. She is 8 months old now and is very small. My friend got her littermate/sister and there is at least 15 pounds difference and his is alot taller. But mine sure can run! She is extremely fast and is independent as can be. Just what I wanted. She doesn't have as muc...

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markj wrote:Charlotts web.

Pig was a runt, they was going to kill it off. was common old days, now folks are too whatever

I agree Mark.

On another note, Mark I found some birds. Thanks for your efforts..

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I agree that the size doesn't have anything to do with mental capabilities. but when it comes down to the runt trying to eat, he or she gets pushed out quite often. So he or she is fighting for a nipple quite often. I personally think that the runt matures faster then other litter mates because of t...

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Runt's are most generally the smallest in the beginning, but generally grow to the same size as there litter mates and/or even grow to a bigger size then most of the litter mates. If you were to go off a percentage of runts in all litters. I would say that the runt is more intelligent and more agile...

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I live in Merna its right on 92 and 2 intersection. What are you getting your dog ready for hunt test, trials? Hunt test start next weekend on the 8th in Branched Oak. I know exactly where Merna is. Dang good meat locker there. :) I sent you a pm. Call me sometime, I would love to come and train wi...

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Brushbustin Sporting Dogs wrote:402-366-0034

Thanks Rob.

Send me a message sometime when you are going training. Where do you live??

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[quote="Brushbustin Sporting Dogs"]Dustin chrisman in York raises several birds. go to www.huntdc.com for a phone number. I've bought excellent adult birds from him. Keep in mind chicks are tough to raise especially chukars just a thing to keep in mind do lots of research on temps and everything cau...

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Dustin chrisman in York raises several birds. go to www.huntdc.com for a phone number. I've bought excellent adult birds from him. Keep in mind chicks are tough to raise especially chukars just a thing to keep in mind do lots of research on temps and everything cause once they pile up you could loo...

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There is a guy here in Council Bluffs raises quail. I get mine from him. Let me give him a call, he should be setting eggs now for hatch. http://www.chukarhatchery.com/?gclid=CJj_styS5ZECFR70IgodATznWg taking orders now http://www.lakecumberlandgamebirds.com/ has sound too http://www.ecquail.com/ o...

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bh99 wrote:I buy quail from a guy in NW Ohio. He sells eggs for .25 min. 100. I don't know if he'll ship chicks but I get them 7-10 days old for .50 min 100 and usually needs 3-4 week notice. He has eggs, chicks, & adults year round.

Don Helmke(sp?)
419-758-3598

Thanks for the information..

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Holden05 wrote:You could try the Sand Prairie Quail Farm in Maquoketa Iowa. I have bought from them in the past. The birds did well until a mink got them. They flew great once they were grown.

Thank you!!

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Chris,

I just tried to call this number and it wasn't a working number.

Roherer GameBirds
913-985-2635

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I assume the NAGA.ORG site will be back up sometime soon, that would be a great resource to start with. I do know a gent by Troy KS that sells chicks and has good birds. If I remember right you were by BEatrice sho it wouldnt be that far of a haul for you. He has been doing it longer than anyone el...

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*Original Post Edited** Sorry about that Gundogs, I realized what you were saying after I re-read m,y original post! Good luck with the chicks! No need to be sorry. I appreciate the heads up. Like I had mentioned, I didn't know what grown birds were going to cost until the other day. Thats why we d...

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WOW! If you are only wanting to train with these birds then WAIT. Right now you you should expect to spend 4.50-5.50 a quail and chuckars are even more expensive like 6-7.00 a piece. So you should expect to easily spend 1,000 or more for birds this time of year. :wink: Chris, Thanks for the input.....

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Idaho Outlaw wrote:
gar-dog wrote:Hmmm her site is down right now and I am intrigued!
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We are looking for a Hatchery that produces strong chicks with strong flying genes. We are in the market for 100 Quail and 100 Chukar.

Thanks for any input on a good Hatchery.

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See? I've got something for everybody!! No ya' don't! ;) :lol: JK!! I'ma GSP guy ya' know! The question is, if you were going to purchase a pup today or in the near future who would you want it out of? (the most veristile, foot hunter, field trial, derby, AA, horse back) A pup that will do it all.....

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If you want to win can't go wrong with a Miller Bred dog, for most horeseback dog trialers. For all age most have a fair share out of Miller at some point. I have seen some good shooting dog's out of Sinbad. Kinkelaar runs a string of those lines. Blackhawk has been producing some good dogs as well...

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Funny you should ask!! :D I bred him yesterday to my direct daughter of Addition's Go Boy!! It's a repeat breeding that was awesome last time! Those pups are hunting Mearns in AZ and grouse in MI. Great litter and I'd be happy to provide references. Really nice animals!! Ross, I sent you an email. ...

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If I had to pick just one pup that I thought would give me the best chance to get the kind of bird dog I wanted, then I would find a litter out of Ben ...bred to the best female possible. http://www.caladenkennels.com/gallery/ben01.jpg Ross, Thanks for your opinion. I have heard nothing but good ab...

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I would say Ch. Elhew Sinbad is a nice sire. He is a young dog so his pups are very old, however the pups that are out there are doing very nice. One of his pups won the Tenn. Shooting Dog Champ. at 2 1/2 yrs. old. I have two pups by him and I like them both. Another would be Rockacre Blackhawk. Wh...

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Who is the top producing EP Sire and Dam alive today?? (black and white producers) I know color is just an appearance factor, but I personally think that color combo is flashier then the others. :P The question is, if you were going to purchase a pup today or in the near future who would you want it...

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I was waiting for someone to bring up the pointer issue. Until I hear it from Don Paltani, Marty Wyant, or Dierck Davis, I am just going to chalk that up to rumor. Why believe it if you can't prove it!! Oh yea, I've got one out of Strike's Flash of Gold and BDK's Fire in The Hole that points the sa...

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Mike~You already know my opinion, but I'll let everybody else know. I had a buddy that had a daughter of Clown crossed w/ some old Doc Haag stuff. She was pure natural bird dog. Natural point, back and retrieve. She loved to retrieve from water like a Lab. And did she have some wheels. She had 2 li...

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What do you want that for Gundog? I can't tell from the ped. what kind of dog you think that pup is, or what you want it for? The ped. looks like someone's chemistry experient that they accidentally dropped their lunch into. Some German, some show, some field trial, some just nothing. All I could t...

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I've never hunted or trialed a pedigree. If I see a pedigree I like, I evaluate the dog. If I see a dog I like I evaluate the pedigree. If I really liked the dog with this pedigree I'd certainly not shy away from it based on the pedigree. On the flip side if I didn't like the dog no pedigree would ...

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What are your opinions on this pedigree?? Good or bad, be honest.. Would you purchase a pup with this pedigree and use him, or is this a pedigree that you would stay away from?? :? Pedigree ...htm (18.4 KB), Reg Name: Son Of A Piper Reg #: SR348856/01 11-07 Breed/Variety: German Shorthaired Pointer ...

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Here are some pro sites on this subject. http://www.snakeproofing.com/Pages/SnakeFAQ.html http://www.jimsbirddogtraining.com/pages/index.htm http://www.patrickcallaghan.com/about.htm (A good one) http://www.vipervoidance.com/ Take a look at these and decide if it is for you or should you use a pro....

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Just curious on this as where Im from we dont have to worry about any poisonous snakes(thank god), but how big of a problem are they? Are they thick throughout the regions that have them? I realize this may be an ignorant question, but I plan on travelling sooner or later with my dog and would like...

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There is info here in the Archives. It's straight-forward in principle, but the resources (like, the kind of snake you want to break the dog off) are difficult and timing is critical. Basically, you use a de-fanged (and possibly mouth sewn shut) rattlesnake and an electric collar turned up to convi...

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Could anyone tell me where to find a chat topic about training your dog to avoid snakes.. I seen it somewhere on here but can't find it now.

It's about time for them darn reptiles to apear again and I want to make sure my pups are aware of them..

Thanks for anyones help..

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I believe I know of at least three litters produced with a background like that last spring/summer. One of our pups from our bitch out of saddle tramp is down near Omaha, in fact. Thats what I get for not paying attention.. :( I just think that Rusty/Luke and SAddle would produce and has produced s...

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SmokePipe wrote:It does mean Field Trial Winner, and yes I have found out they are UK terms.

How about that.. I knew something and didn't have to look on the dang internet too find it out..

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Brydawg, that is nice. but the titles were all Canadian and your explanation is all US. What are FTW and FTCH? FTCH is Field Trial Champion FTW I have NO idea (Field Trial Winner, Field Trial Working dog) :P I have NEVER seen that tittle on a pedigree and I have 3 females that have Canadian bloodli...

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This pup I now have cost me very little :) I own the dam and sire :) so money is being set aside to train him with a pro. Better than spending it in a bar. This pup is for my bot, it will help us build a better relationship and bond us as hunters and dog guys. Sooo I see it as money well spent. No ...

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Windyhills wrote:
Gundogs/Nebraska wrote:

(I'm very partial to Dixieland Rusty and/or Luke bloodlines, but I think that a bit of Saddle thrown in there would be GREAT)

Too bad you weren't looking last year!

And why is that?? Did I miss out on something??

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So is there going to be any Saddle/Rusty or Luke breedings this year?? If so, who are the Sire and Dam going to be??

(I'm very partial to Dixieland Rusty and/or Luke bloodlines, but I think that a bit of Saddle thrown in there would be GREAT)

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Greg Jennings wrote:Look under "Success Stories" and then the sub menu. The pedigrees of many of the dogs are there.

Greg

Thanks Greg

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We just bred FC/AFC Maggie MH (my avatar dog) out of FC/AFC Dr N's CJ MH and a Cadens bitch to Cadens Dino, a cecil son. Double saddle, should be a good one if you like Saddle. There is info on all of these dogs on Dennis website, www.cadenskennels.com. Pups are due Feb 20th if anyone's interested!...

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I've liked every Ruger pup I've seen and I've had my hands on twenty or thirty of them from different breedings. If we ever get our timing straight I'll breed him to My Dandi Runaway Rusty daughter and I haven't bred to an outside stud in over five years. The pup I have out of him now and Angel is ...

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You asked what Saddletramp lines are still out there? Let me word it like this Cecil has been gone for 5 years or more, and I have a 2 1/2 old son of his, there are alot of Saddletramp lines still out there, I will probably linebreed off of him ad Hoosier Buddy as that combination is one I like ext...

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I'm partial to this one..... http://www.cadenskennels.com/Content.asp?id=1903&mnuid=7215&HDR=Dr.%20N's%20CJ I have two females (half sister) from him. The oldest is a MH and a UTI, the younger one is a placement short of her SH and will UT test this fall. Coveyrise64 Very nice pedigree.. With that ...

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