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Ezzy,

Have you considered taking a moratorium on food related posts? Folks may like to have a discussion that doesn't turn into an argument with you.

Chris

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+1. Find a dog that was started right and for sale for the right reasons. You'll be able to hunt over it this fall and enjoy doing it. Something like this http://gundogforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=36308&p=344830#p344830 or this http://www.thefieldtrialer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2982 ...

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As far as the leash goes, I put mine on a stakeout first. Let them give into the pressure without associating with you first.

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Your expectations of your dog are unreasonable. An 8 week puppy can do no wrong and you should have zero expectations, especially outside for the next few months. Socialize the dog well, take it on puppy walks in all types of different places, expose it to water and birds, let it learn to hunt. That...

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Looks like a lot of fun. What'd you take the videos with? IMO, I would allow the pup to interact with the bird more without your involvement. When she gets in the area of the bird, stay back and allow her to figure it out. She might point, she might not, let her go in on the bird and make the natura...

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Tough spot man. I sgree eith you, but it reminds me of a favorite saying of mine.

"I can be right or I can be happy. I choose to be happy."

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That was supposed to read put a toy with some pb in there. Autocorrect is smarter than me.

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Get them liking the crate- feed them in it, put a long with on I'm it in there with the door open, etc. dog is going to cry, whine and bark. Going to have to live with it. The behavior will eventually extinguish itself.

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I hunt em the first season, get them standing their birds. Then I send them to a pro, he can do a thousand times better job than me. +1. Limitations of time, knowledge, grounds and birds. Breaking a dog is too important for me to screw up. I look forward to taking a dog from start to finish someday...

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How is the above post relative to the topic? The amount of time spent talking on the phone and the ability to conveniently access gun dog forum are unrelated. No need to steer it off topic. Personally, I am always on the road and appreciate the ease of using tapatalk (I had never heard or used it un...

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I'd put the brakes on the thought of gun intro. The op commented that his dog watched the bird fly, I wouldn't introduce the gun until that dog is really getting after that bird hard. There are no advantages of introducing te gun before you are 100% sure the dog is ready. To the original poster, it ...

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Where in SE? I just moved outside of Petersburg a few weeks back from Raleigh.

From what I have found out so far, good numbers of woodcock and shooting quail is akin to shooting an endangered species.

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Art,

No idea on the jeep, but if you search the site for roading, there have been a lot of previous topics.

Potential harness- http://www.pineyrunkennel.com/store.htm

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+1 on the quietest part of the house. Turn some background noise on also (radio).

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A place to train and a few reliable sources for birds. Nothing more frustrating than not being able to get your hands on birds. I would also recommend training with mo. A check cord, pinch collar and ecollar will be the most important. A releaser or two would be nice as would a launcher. You will be...

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Real nice looking dog. Nothing more fun than watching a pup develop.

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Sounds like great bird intro. On the a good track. The best way to bring out the natural point is to let him knock and chase loose planted birds. Fly a couple of those quail out into some cover or very lightly plant them. Let him discover, bump and chase. He'll be pointing like a rock star in no tim...

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I enjoyed Ray's story, but I like to differentiate between honest bird dog and honest house dog. We've been on the wrong side of both. My male once used the cover of tennessee fog to double back and repoint a bird- a fine example of an intelligent and dishonest dog (only did it once, so I hate give ...

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Jerrod, I think the best thing would be to find a bird supplier- wild pigeons, quail, chukar, whatever. Shipping, driving, begging, whatever it takes to get birds. The birds will bring out your dog's natural desire. Try to plant them in a manner she cannot catch them, walk around with her, let her f...

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Great report Bruce. The write ups on my dog and the other braces I remember are spot on. You've set the bar pretty high.

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Nice trial and nice grounds. We unfortunately went birdless (along with several other fine dogs), however I was very happy with tux's run and application. Think we could have been in consideration to make the 2nd series had we had a bird (if only the ones my scout saw counted). Grounds provided oppo...

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Besides house manners, a source of birds and a few different pieces of land to run your dog on would be the extent of things I would be worried about through about 6 months or so. You can teach it all kinds of formal training later in life, but this is the time to worry about letting a dog figure ou...

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Great video. Watching them figure it out on there own is a lot of fun. That pup also quickly taught that bird to fly or die!

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I don't know much about College Station, but I am in the area right now for work. I have asked every farmer and rancher I have come across about quail and they tell me its been several decades since they've had any. I would guess its related to the seas of coastal bermuda. Not sure how far you have ...

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It doesn't matter what you feed or how much it costs or where you get it if the dog is not absorbing the food. This dog exhibits some symptoms of decreased pancreatic function. A simple lipid test would address that possibility. You are good! Dog had a loose stoll and its coat isn't as shiney as so...

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Congratulations. If this is the dog that I think it is, I am not surprised after she put together 7 or 8 dead broke pieces of bird work at the GSP of Atlanta trial back in February.

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I think I would tend to agree with the other posters that it may not work. Can't say that it won't, but now what I've learned. Dogs should learn to point birds without any help from their owner. Thought this article may be of interest. http://steadywithstyle.com/developing-point-in-a-young-dog/#more...

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More public land with wild birds in PA north of I-80 than you can shake a stick at.

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Forget roading, get a different breed if you want to win. Hopefully this comment and the poster are deleted. Haywire, welcome to the forum, I see that this is your 1st post, but I am sure you have figured out their are idiots in every crowd. One suggestion would be to use the search function to rev...

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Mine has one, it provides great amusement.

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Provideded there are no other maturity / pressure issues, Put your boot under him and tap him real gently on the shins / knees, he'll stand. He'll eventually figure out what you want, no need to get crazy or excited or try to fix it tomorrow.

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I started at 8 weeks and what I did my with my pup is take a pigeon, hold the wings together, tease her up with it a little bit, and just made sure I held it away from her when it flew. Next time put one in one of those harnesses and a tether and let her play with it, third time, I locked the pigeon...

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2010 4runner is good. We average 20.8, two ruff toughs in the back with the seats up. V6 isn't the best for hauling, but gets it done.

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I looked at last years premium, no dogs from out west ,only a few from the east coast and a total of 30 dogs thats a weekend trial at best AND THATS IN THE HEART OF SHORTHAIR COUNTRY NOT TO IMPRESSIVE. I really look forward to meeting you there and watching your dogs sweep the silk. Until then, I'd...

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I enjoy watching the work, but probably wouldn't but my dog in a situation where returning to land was difficult / dangerous.

Ps- they look like lazy duck hunter shooting fly bys.

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Thinking about going, we'll see how tux runs in some upcoming walking trials. Think i'd enjoy riding braces for a few days.

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I believe the original poster was referring to exercise regime as it relates to a specific event. For example, do you build up for 8 weeks and start tapering the amount of exercise 2 weeks prior to an important trial.

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No reason to get excited. Search some of the older puppy posts for good ideas of what to focus on. Most folks will agree that you do not want to emphasize obedience at such a young age. Focus on exploring the world and exposure to game birds, water, tweet tweets, etc.

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Can we just get it out of the way and lock this one?

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Thanks everyone. It was very fun and I was very surprised by the derby placement. Good point Andy. Tux did well too finishing 2nd in OGD. Two very nice pieces of bird work, smoked most of the course, but both he and i ran out of gas on the last hill. We were picked in AGD when he blinked a back afte...

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The first 1st SPBC walking trial went very well. The weather mostly cooperated, turn was superb in quantity & quality of people, great judges and a lot of superb dogs. Plus we had excellent food all weekend. We look forward to doing it again next year and seeing even more new faces. Results (Full Na...

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I wanted to post a small brag on my young shorthair (7.5 months). My wife handled her to 1st in AWP (5 starters) and I handled her to 3rd in Open Walking Derby (14 Starters) at the SPBC Walking Trial this past weekend. I havent done as much as I would like with her, but good genetics and a small dos...

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How old is the dog and where is it in its training?

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Our club is running puppy last at an upcoming trialon the same course as the other stakes. After salting the course and planting birds gun dog and derbies for 2 days, I believe the good puppies will find birds. I also got an interesting comment from someone that thought puppy should be run 1st witho...

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Rabbits taste good right?

Shoot birds and not rabbits and the dog will figure it out.

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If you search 'puppy food' in the forum, you will find at least 238 opinions.

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If the pups are not pointing the coveys, they need to keep busting them until they start pointing them. I agree with others that they need to learn they need to point by realizing they can't catch. You can take chase out of the dog, you can't artificially put point in them.

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Congrats. Great looking dog and photos. Sounds like an excellent year for everyone involved. Hope to see him in North Carolina in January.

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There are a few clubs not too far from you- sandhills pointing breeds club and aremania winds. Game lands are tricky as you can't bring outside birds and sandhills is only a 3 days per week game lands. If you want to do hunt tests, akc trials, af trials or nstra, they are all around. As everyone els...

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I will second that it isnt a big deal. A dog can differentiate between stalking a toy in the house and finding game. Two pics of my now 5 month old pup. Jolene pointing tux and jolene pointing birds. One had nothing to do with the other. http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n579/cmc274/IMG00593-20110...

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