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The answer in short is no you are not responsible for giving his dog an opportunity to back. There's a few reasons for this though. The first reason is according to the rules if your dog is on point and time expires you have one minute to produce the bird and complete the retrieve to get credit for ...

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Cajun Casey wrote:Four days is not a full course of antibiotics.

Apparently it's a pretty stout antibiotic, and that's what I was told by the vet. What would you recommend?

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Had my 2.5 year old shorthair run through a barbed wire fence today on a retrieve. It was my fault for putting the bird too close to it. Anyways she cut herself on her right front leg, slightly on the inside. Cut is about 2.5" long at most and not super deep with only maybe a couple of centimers of ...

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Does worming the mother during pregnancy and after birth eliminate the need to work the puppies while they are feeding off the mother?

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I feed the enhance hunter's edge premium blend and could not be happier. Price is better than proplan and the dogs do incredibly well on it. Tip here though is don't feed the basic forumla. Get the premium blend. There is no way I would switch to PP over this.

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Todd Anderson at Anderson ranch raises some outstanding litters. Call him and he will be happy to explain anything you have questions over. You will see he strives to produce the best dogs possible.

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The thing that pisses me off is they increased the price of the Hunter's Edge formula and decreased the weight of the bag. Sounds like someone trying to make a quick buc to me. I too will be changing unless they fix one or the other.

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My trainer has really gotten excited about a feed that Akrat is producing called Enhance. I believe they are endorsed by Ducks Unlimited or something. They have several different formulas depending on your needs. Says it is the best thing he has seen around, especially considering the cost bar none....

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Wish I could help you there, but I have never dropped the tailgate in south central, OK. My knowledge is NW and SW Oklahoma and South KS.

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Don't know about Ryan, but I am hearing good things all over Oklahoma this year.

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Thanks for all the input. I would agree, 2 dogs and 2 live guns is ideal, three live guns at the most. More than that it gets to be confusing. Particularly if the other dogs are not under control. Could end up with people shooting over 3 different finds and pellet's going in all directions. May be ...

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I won't hunt with more than three guns and three dogs on the ground at once, and i hunt the open praries and sand hills of Western Oklahoma.

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Depends on the line and the parents. You will be very pleased with them when Todd and Stacey are done with them.

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All good points, but I tend to agree more with mcbosco. Assuming you are making available to the pups a good quality feed(Science would not be my choice), the mother will wean perhaps a bit earlier than say 8-9 weeks. It's usually a good idea to do what's natural. Mother knows best. What would be y...

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I'm not sure who the other dog in the final brace is but one is miller's butch out of our region in Oklahoma.

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It looks to be your good at math Romeo, although even a 40 acre field doesnt seem enough to "prove" a dog IMHO. When was the last time you hunted a 40 acre field, found birds and werent at a canned hunt or hunting in NY? No offense NY folks, maybe I should have said Los Angeles! We actually find wi...

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The difference between 15 and 30 is pretty significant. Double in fact.

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I've been out there many times. It is nothing like a horseback trial if you've been to one of those. As someone stated, you can see everything from the clubhouse porch. It is two flat, about 15 acres, short grass fields. You'll be able to see all the dogs. No way they are 15 acres. NSTRA would neve...

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Here's some vid of the flushing pointing dogs on BDC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NH-Yi_TLdc Can you say road, flag , flush, chomp :D I see little to no difference between us open Phez Championship and BDC...... Yep, pretty much the same thing. Not broke, moving, creeping, roading. No quality be...

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Yep it's a race which is much better than a beauty contest based on how good a dog looks while it points. :roll: How is it possibly better? A race does absolutely nothing to prove anything about the qualities of a dog. This type of format does not judge quality of work, training, handling, style or...

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With entery fees running between 300 to 500 bucks you probley wont see many dogs that cant hold a point or make a reteive. The footage Ive seen leaves that in question.....and holding a point and making a retrieve do not a great dog make. Ditto. The footage I have seen of the "top dogs" at these na...

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This format isn't even in the same league as NSTRA. NSTRA judges quality of bird work, retrieves, handling, obedience, and ground cover. Those formats are about nothing but putting birds in the bag as quickly as possible. Someone please explain to me how this formart could possibly advance the breed...

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It sounds like you are talking about the BDC trials........... The way I understand it, is that you are only scored on the amount of birds in the bag in a specified amount of time. The only thing the dog has to do is hold a point for 3 seconds and I believe make the retrieve. The dog is not scored ...

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Please check out our website www.ridgerunkennels.com. Ridge Run Kennels is a small kennel located just outside of Oklahoma City, OK. We specialize in breeding quality black and white German Shorthairs, only raising one to two litters each year, though liver and white dogs are usually available with ...

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To help the poor guy out that asked the original question,,,,, if I were you I would find and of course is this done by asking around on computer forums and other resources a pair of dogs that produce closer working dogs. So we don't get in the discussion of LINES we would probably all agree that t...

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If you get rear ended at even a slow speed you have to kiss your dogs goodbye with a setup like that.

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One of mine did that about a year ago in a trial. Not only did she not retrieve it right back to me she turned and ran off from me and ate it. I blamed myself for putting way too much pressure on her too soon. It turned into a big hard mouth problem which surprised me because she had been force fetc...

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I use canned food for one thing. To entice a tired dog to eat at the end of a hard day of hunting when we are going again the next day. Other than that, it is essentially useleless. As far as the proper shape for a dog to be in, that is somewhat debateable. I feed my dogs and watch them. If I can ba...

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I figured that. Just responding to another poster.

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They only championships I have heard of are from a guy that runs NSTRA and touts his dog as the only male b&w gsp to win any kind of field championship. That is all I know. Congrats on the AFC that is a serious accomplishment. Can you post a pedigree for Sally I would like to see it. Thanks I think...

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If want a bird dog go get yourself a bird dog from a legitimate breeder. Puppies are a little bit of a roll of the dice anyway. Your really stacking the deck against yourself by going this route.

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It may be just as bad for your dog to see you shoot a flushed bird over your golden is to do it over your pointer. I abide by this rule no matter what. Flushers and pointers never get hunted together. It's my rule though.

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I am glad you have found something that works for you and it sounds like it works because you don't hunt them together directly. Take a young dog and let a flushing dog bust his pointed birds once or twice and see what a pile you end up in with that young dog. Everyone has what works for them. I am ...

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Ezzy, as usual you read far too much into a post. I am aware working type dogs can fit into the same category as we are referring to here, but since this is a forum for sporting dogs I chose to be more specific to the subject. Second, I most certainly not blaming the messenger as you stated. I was s...

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This happens all too often with sporting type dogs. Someone wants a lab or a shorthair or setter because they are just so darn pretty. In the meantime they give absolutely no considerations to what purpose that breed of dog is bred for. The dog has a great deal of energy and the instincts it was bre...

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That story is exactly the reason you shouldn't hunt your gap with a flushing dog. The dog in this story may not have been able to see the springer but the springer was busting the gsp birds in this story. It is a surefire way to undo your hard work and training.

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If you want to train them to be a flushing dog then that's fine. But you cannot refute the fact that gsp's are bred as pointing dogs. I assume the op wants his dog to.point and hold given his concern of hunting him with a flushing lab.

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Only do it if you plan to teach to your GSP to be a flushing dog. :roll:

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Yes but your likely to lose a lot of valuable time if your dog does not mark the bird down well or if you don't fold it when you hit it. I say break your dog steady to wing and shot, and be willing to let your dog break a little sooner at the trials. It adds an element of steadiness, but your not lo...

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You might also look into NSTRA trials. www.nstra.org

I can fill in some blanks for you too. There was also a thread specifically on NSTRA if you do a search.

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Just work on using a little light stim from the collar to turn him off of tweety's, and non-desireable birds. As far as steadying him to wing and shot, or even flush for that matter. Wait until well after this bird season and look into it this summer.

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Frankly I would quit giving her birds to retrieve. Still continue the bird work, but don't shoot them for her. When she hits around a year of age you may consider finding someone to force fetch her. It sounds like you are fairly new at this and I do not recommend trying this on your own if you are n...

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It's sort of cross between a buzz and a beep, but has a similar intent. I use it to turn my dogs or call them in, especially when working with a newly trained dog, or newly broke dog rather than nicking them with a collar every time. I have a 2 year old GSP that is finishing up on her steady to wing...

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Been there, but in an even more difficult way. Last season I had to explain to a very good friend and mentor of mine that I couldn't hunt my trial dogs with his dogs. His dogs are wild bird/meat dogs, and are not broke by any means. I compete with mine and one of them is a younger dog needing to be ...

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Yes you may put a few less birds in the bag when you require your dog to be fully broke while wild bird hunting, but the quality of work you get out of the birds you do get far outweighs a lighter game bag. It all depends on what your goals are while wild bird hunting. Mine is to put a few birds in ...

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ezzy, i was at a NAVHDA clinic last week and while the seasoned dogs were very impressive athletes and very well trained, i dont know how you could hunt with them, they take off like rockets and bash through the fields like something out of a video game or an action movie, in a blink of an eye they...

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You can still find some birds there but should talk to someone who knows where they are, and be prepared to walk a very long distance to find them. Also, ou will probably only get one chance at each covey because they fly so far. You may walk all day and get skunked. Black Kettle was over hunted due...

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Could have just been sore for a couple of days. I am sure dogs have better days than others with such a former serious injury.

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I think excessive water consumption is only a problem when combined with excessive food consumption.

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I have a almost 2 year old GSP I am going to start some backing work on and have put a plan together but wanted to see what some of you thought, and how I might improve it. I will start by running her on the training grounds for a while just having her handle for me. I will set up a pointing dog cut...

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