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by zigzag
Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:12 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: "MEAT DOG"
Replies: 59
Views: 19713

Re: "MEAT DOG"

[quote][/quote]it can also be a term to seperate, for those who find seperation important to them. i equate it to a fine pump-action scattergun. I thought this was a nice example. To me a meat dog puts meat on the table. It gets the task at hand done Just like my Pump shotgun. It's a working mans Gu...
by zigzag
Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:17 am
Forum: Polls
Topic: How do you register your dogs?
Replies: 4
Views: 6994

Re: How do you register your dogs?

When My Dog got his Rabbies shot, The county I live in sent me a bill stated that I had to register my dog and pay a annual fee of 15.00 if dog was not intact and 40.00 if dog was intact. Welcome to the City.
by zigzag
Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:27 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Points losing intensity?
Replies: 21
Views: 5699

Re: Points losing intensity?

Thanks for the tips, I will take a few steps back. The only reason for this is to prepare him for an upcoming JR hunt test. We ran are first JR trial, Last week and the things I noticed that went wrong was no experince running with other dog in bird field. He only has run with other dogs when playin...
by zigzag
Thu May 31, 2012 10:11 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Points losing intensity?
Replies: 21
Views: 5699

Re: Points losing intensity?

Yes I agree I dont want to use the pen quail, I do want to let him hunt in diffrent settings not just at his trainers place with pigeons. I also want him to run with a brace mate so this training set up seems good. The Flagging is strange, I never stop him from chasing and I have shot birds for him....
by zigzag
Thu May 31, 2012 8:52 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Points losing intensity?
Replies: 21
Views: 5699

Points losing intensity?

I have moved from pigeons in a launcher to pen raised bob white quail I bought from a game farm. I am trying to set up a hunt test simulation with my young dog 11 months. I planted 3 birds (dizzed them up) In a field similar to the one that will be used for the hunt test> Braced the dog with another...
by zigzag
Wed May 23, 2012 7:49 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Doing everything right?
Replies: 5
Views: 1744

Re: Doing everything right?

IDK what I want at this point, I never planed on runing the dog in trials, although I have our first JR hunt trial this Saturday, I just thought what the heck we can get a JR hunt title. Is it any benefit to hunt a dog that is broke to Wing and shot? Or would I have great hunting dog that breaks on...
by zigzag
Wed May 23, 2012 6:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Doing everything right?
Replies: 5
Views: 1744

Re: Doing everything right?

IDK what I want at this point, I never planed on runing the dog in trials, although I have our first JR hunt trial this Saturday, I just thought what the heck we can get a JR hunt title. Is it any benefit to hunt a dog that is broke to Wing and shot? Or would I have great hunting dog that breaks on ...
by zigzag
Wed May 23, 2012 5:26 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Doing everything right?
Replies: 5
Views: 1744

Doing everything right?

I have a 10 month Vizsla, He is coming along great and I just dont want to undo any of his Natural abilty. We have been working with a trainer from 4 months old. We are using pigeons, His trainer from the start wanted him to chase birds after he pointed and birds were released from trap. He did chas...
by zigzag
Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:22 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Braques Francais breeders?
Replies: 6
Views: 2631

Braques Francais breeders?

I am 12-16 months from a possible purchase of a 2nd gun dog. I have a 9 month Vizsla that has been an absolute blessing to our household, exactly the dog I wanted in every way so far. In the field He is a fine hunter, points with style and works close. I am a foot hunter, local pheasent preserves wi...
by zigzag
Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:23 am
Forum: Training
Topic: whoa barrel steady to shot?
Replies: 4
Views: 1604

Re: whoa barrel steady to shot?

I forgot to mention The dog is Gun conditioned with a 20ga I just can't shoot that in my backyard, athats my whoa barrel setup.
by zigzag
Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:13 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: whoa barrel steady to shot?
Replies: 4
Views: 1604

whoa barrel steady to shot?

I have been using the whoa barrel since my pup was 16 weeks, He knows it and loves it. I also use the leash with leather pinch collar on walks to reinforce whoa. Pup is 8.5 months and has a good hold on the whoa command, whistle and hand signal. I was thinking about starting him on steady to shot, t...
by zigzag
Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:32 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Would This Concern You (Lacks Heart Or Lacks Experience)?
Replies: 36
Views: 11284

Re: Would This Concern You (Lacks Heart Or Lacks Experience)?

Aclimation and birds=drive. If the dog has not hunted in wet cold conditons and has never found birds in such conditions drive is diminished. JMHOP.
by zigzag
Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:25 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Proven Dogs - Biddability or Training ?
Replies: 13
Views: 5332

Re: Proven Dogs - Biddability or Training ?

Think about the kind of dog you would like. Maybe a hard driving barn burner is not the dog you have the time or dedication to train, or maybe that is exactly the dog you want. Biddabilty is in the eye of the owner or buyer. I think if you spent some time with the litter and watched them together yo...
by zigzag
Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:06 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Keeping birds for training questions
Replies: 7
Views: 3250

Re: Keeping birds for training questions

I had a steep learning curve when it came to birds, I will share my experince, dont know how helpfull I can be. I tried the cheep 2 bucks a bird courtinx quail raised in a cage. Thankfully my pup was very young when I got the birds I think 16weeks, This kinda bird will not flush and most likely your...
by zigzag
Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:58 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Another Dog Food Question (sorry!)
Replies: 28
Views: 5294

Re: Another Dog Food Question (sorry!)

I do agree with the OP "read the dog not the label". That said nothing wrong with testing your serving size, If the dog is holding weight looks good but has loose stools the simple suggestion as others have posted would be to feed less. It saves you money and you dont need to switch food.
by zigzag
Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:45 pm
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Another Dog Food Question (sorry!)
Replies: 28
Views: 5294

Re: Another Dog Food Question (sorry!)

How long have you been feeding 4 cups a day? since he was a puppy 6 months? Is that the recomended dose for his weight per bag? I think that you have High performance dog food and 4 cups may be a bit much. I have a 8 month puppy, feeding Canidae all life stage. 24/14.5 the puppy serving for his weig...
by zigzag
Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:04 am
Forum: Help: Member Support
Topic: Avatar picture
Replies: 20
Views: 25523

Re: Avatar picture

I cant figure out how to post pics on this forum. Any help would be great I dont have any fancy computer system just the standard windows XP
by zigzag
Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:05 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Reel Him In???
Replies: 21
Views: 5502

Re: Reel Him In???

IDK if you should really be taking any advise from me, I am far to inexperienced to give you any more then my opinion. I think the pinch collar should never be used out of your immediate control.
by zigzag
Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:18 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Reel Him In???
Replies: 21
Views: 5502

Re: Reel Him In???

So you have used the CC just draging in the field not just the yard. This may cause the dog to think you have more controll then you really do even know you dont. Try this in a smaller field maybe one with a fence to contain him at about 100yrds or so. give the command one time, slowly walk toward t...
by zigzag
Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:58 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Terms we use
Replies: 54
Views: 17373

Re: Terms we use

birddogger wrote:Tethering and carding birds.
Staunch and steady.
Head crank.
Upwind, down wind, cross wind.

Charlie
I am looking forward to learning the meaning of these. I think you have a great thread going this stuff can be intimidating for rokies like me.
by zigzag
Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:14 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Reel Him In???
Replies: 21
Views: 5502

Re: Reel Him In???

I need to ask What kinda CC are you using? My dog has been off leash training in public fields since I brought him home at 10 weeks, He knows the command come and I did use a CC for the first few months. Its just that I want my pup to run out not stay within CC range 20ft or so. At 1yr old the dog m...
by zigzag
Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:32 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Correct form of e collar training
Replies: 25
Views: 5144

Re: Correct form of e collar training

IDK. I pretty much praise and encourage my young pup as much as possible, If I tell him to come and he doesn't, I will ignore it. Find something else throw the ball let him fetch or wait till he comes around and tell him come again then positive reinforcement, he never fails. I dont think this is a...
by zigzag
Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:50 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Correct form of e collar training
Replies: 25
Views: 5144

Re: Correct form of e collar training

IDK. I pretty much praise and encourage my young pup as much as possible, If I tell him to come and he doesn't, I will ignore it. Find something else throw the ball let him fetch or wait till he comes around and tell him come again then positive reinforcement, he never fails. I dont think this is an...
by zigzag
Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:27 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: How to deter pup from sitting while on point
Replies: 33
Views: 7565

Re: How to deter pup from sitting while on point

I let the Wife and kids teach SIT. Ruger has never heard that command from me and never will. But he does sit on command.
by zigzag
Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:11 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Correct form of e collar training
Replies: 25
Views: 5144

Re: Correct form of e collar training

I have all the same concerns your having, my dog is timid. Also biddable I do think with enough time I could have a broke dog without ever using the Ecollar. That said I have orderd the Tritronics classic 70 Ecollar, it will arrive in a few days. My plan has been to have my now 8 month Vizsla wear t...
by zigzag
Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:29 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: E collar dilemma?
Replies: 23
Views: 8047

Re: E collar dilemma?

zigzag - I find that use the momentary stim a whole lot more than the continuous. I have an old Flyway Special that has 6 levels of continuous and the same six levels of momentary but with two buttons for momentary so you can administer 1/3 level with one button, 2/3 level with the second button an...
by zigzag
Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:55 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: E collar dilemma?
Replies: 23
Views: 8047

Re: E collar dilemma?

Hattrick wrote:I forgot to mention i would go with the 90 over the 70.
the only diffrence I see is momentary stim. Its just slightly out of my reach in price.
by zigzag
Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:47 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: E collar dilemma?
Replies: 23
Views: 8047

Re: E collar dilemma?

ok this is reassuring info thank you all for the replys. I was thinking that all the stim levels and diffrent buttons were kinda rediculus. I just wanted to be sure this collar would have a low enough range for my dog to make the proper transition, sounds like it will be ok. And I will not not have ...
by zigzag
Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:52 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: E collar dilemma?
Replies: 23
Views: 8047

Re: E collar dilemma?

If I could add one more question to this post, What is a good collar choice considering my Vizsla is showing signs of being sensitive? I have narrowed my search to tri tronics collars only at this point. My first pick is the G3 classic 70 comes in at 319.00, my concern is it has only 6 levels of con...
by zigzag
Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:17 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: E collar dilemma?
Replies: 23
Views: 8047

E collar dilemma?

I would like some input from those who have used or not used an E coller. This is my current scenario, I have a Vizsla pup 8 month old male. To date he has been very mild mannered and what some would call a soft dog. He does cowerd when I get hard on him, I rarely do that. We have trained on trapped...
by zigzag
Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:39 am
Forum: Training
Topic: when to shoot birds for pup?
Replies: 11
Views: 3731

Re: when to shoot birds for pup?

I have a similar situation, My pup has been training on pigeons sprung from launchers from 4 months of age, we use a blank 22 for gun conditioning. He is steady on point but still chases sometimes. We moved up to 20 ga shotgun from 75yrds then closer and closer to about 15 feet. 8 month birthday, la...
by zigzag
Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:37 pm
Forum: Please Welcome New Members - Introduce Yourself Here!
Topic: Newb Vizsla owner
Replies: 6
Views: 1725

Re: Newb Vizsla owner

I got my dog from a famley breeder in Kansa, Achinson Vizslas. Ruger flew back with me in the cabin on a southwest airlines flight. I am looking forward to some cast and blast trips out east. I have some areas along the Deschutes R. I have been scouting, also found some pay to play operations around...
by zigzag
Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:28 am
Forum: Please Welcome New Members - Introduce Yourself Here!
Topic: Newb Vizsla owner
Replies: 6
Views: 1725

Newb Vizsla owner

Hi I am the proud owner of a now 7 month old Vizsla, Had him from 10 weeks. I live in Portland Oregon and plan to hunt forest grouse mostly. I am an avid fly fisherman, love chasing steelhead with my fly rod. I have never bird hunted behind a pointer and never owned a bird dog before. So far My male...