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dan v

You can rank the importance of a few trial essentials pretty quick.

Good grounds.
Good bird planter.
Good birds.
Good Judges.

dan v

That is a good point....When I think about it, the dogs that are the most intense on point, the ones that look like 10K on point, are often times the same dogs that burn the course up and seem to be in rhythm with their handler. The dog is showing its confidence, and its desire to find birds by dig...

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Sorta looks to me like you could have walking or horseback puppy and derby stakes but no horseback handling in walking stakes. HUH. You can't horseback handle in any walking stake. Maybe I'm missing something here. Do...I'm confused at your confusion. The AKC states, " A club may not offer more tha...

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jetjockey wrote:All Age or SD/GD? Too many variables to really give a solid answer.

+1...adlu or juvi stake?

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Where is that rule? I could go for all walking stakes. Right here in the AKC FT Guidelines: Section 2. Regular stakes that may be offered: A club may not offer more than one of these stakes at any given trial. Puppy Stake (Open and/or Amateur Walking) for dogs 6 months of age and under 15 months of...

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I'm sorry to hear that Minnesota grounds are in jeopardy. Is US Fish behind the trouble? Nothing like that. Our historical spring FT grounds are in fact a county park called Three Rivers Park District. We have been eventing on this parcel since the mid 1980's. During that time the Park was, and cur...

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Just wondering....but wasn't the hey day of FT in the 50's and 60's....and wasn't it largely well to do folks paying others to run dogs for the sake of a trophy and bragging rights...more or less like horse racing? There aren't as many racing tracks today either. Am I wrong but haven't the number o...

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Most the Amt walking stakes at the HB trials are puppy & derby no walking broke dog stakes unless a walking trial.These are where the newbies should get broke in & experience before moving on to BD stakes.If it wasn't for the club members at the walking trials they wouldn't get enough entries to ho...

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Ezzy I understood that when I wrote it but if the pros are the ones keeping the newbies from coming why don't they enter these trials & take up where the pros leave off. There have been some amt walking stakes at the HB trials cancelled because they didn't get entries so where are the newbies the p...

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Haven't seen a rep in three years? That's a good thing in a way, means no one has sent up any red flags for your event. But if you would like to have one there, a simple phone call for a request and it can probably happen. The Reps we have today are helpful, easy to get along with and will work the...

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Ok. Misunderstood you., Don...the even greater point is this. Speak with anybody from the AKC concerning field events. It really isn't a money maker in any sense of the word for AKC. As you are probably aware, AKC has Field Reps attend various events. So they incur travel expense such as airfare, l...

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The AKC fees are pretty minimal really. An application fee of between $15-25 and $3.50 per dog ran. Those are current entry fee's to run in a recognized field trial? I think and someone can correct me, out here it runs about $50 per entry to run. Run in a AF Championship trial about $125 per entry ...

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The AKC fees are pretty minimal really. An application fee of between $15-25 and $3.50 per dog ran.

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Shags brings up a good point....by somebody keeping a dog that out of contention down....and as a judge I'm behind, it prevents me from catching the front to watch a possible winner. Although, at times when behind and trusting the person I'm judging with....I won't try to catch the front if the dog ...

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Should both judges be watching the potential winner anyway.? Sometimes that not possible. One judge can get hung up watched a dog on a difficult find, maybe an extended flushing attempt, multiple relocates...and then they are far enough behind that the judge doesn't get to see much of the dog to th...

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Dogs should only be ordered up for two things, fighting and interference. Taking a couple steps at the flush may put the dog out of the running, but he shouldn't be ordered up. If the judge feels strong enough that, and given the judges might already have their 3-4 dogs, the judge should politely in...

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jetjockey,

Judges should be there to select the "best" dog....not the perfect dog, and the "best" dog may not be perfect, but the perfect dog may not be the "best".

dan v

For me the thing is horses. If no rental horses are available I don't go. I hear the wrangler charges the clubs a lot and some just had to cut the rental horses out. A lot of the trials have one or more walking stakes and I like to go to them but if there is only one walking stake and no rental hor...

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My pigeons are on their own from the time the water freezes, until it thaws. If I'm feeling generous I'll throw them some whole corn. But, my birds free fly all the time.

dan v

Get a hold of Dan Hoke at Dunfur Kennel.

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You know Horizon here is what gets me. You say it's about ethics and yet you sale your dogs with limited registration without spay/neuter contracts which does not prevent accidental breedings that could create un registered puppies, or registration fraud from your puppies, and yet your worried abou...

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Vonzeppelinkennels wrote:If you didn't want our opinions then why post it? Should have kept it between the parties involved.

Better to keep your mouth closed and appear the fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

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A bit off the subject ,but reading your purchase agreement. What does your guarantee do for the purchaser. It appears to say if there is a problem the buyer must have the puppy neutered and return the registration. I have a hard time understanding how that protects the buyer, the only benefit appea...

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I'd like to thank Steve...these are wonderful representations of the dogs. The bottom two are deceased, but both Becky and I are able to see the lip wrinkle of the top dog. I case people are wondering. The bottom dog is DC/AFC Chaparral XLO Rater XL Lent MH, and is the sire to the middle dog. DC Ric...

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Cajun Casey wrote:IMO, you are triple treating. The Flagyl should have taken care of everything.

Or at least cut the Flagyl....Panacur will cover the giardia if give for 5 days.

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There are various provisions for disabled handlers, with ATV's being one of the options. However, it is illegal to use any type of motorized off road vehicle on most public hunting or wildlife management lands. Since most trials are conducted on public lands, it is not often that you will see a dis...

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It takes a combination of three things to make a great competitive dog. Take away any of the three and the dog will never achieve greatness. 1. The dog must have great natural ability and intelligence. 2. The dog must be thoroughly trained. 3. The dog must be campaigned. Seems to me it was Rex Carr...

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I have trained with Dave 15 or 20 times and been to three seminars over the past dozen years or so. I learned many things each time out. Before I met Dave the first time, Jerry Jordan told me to pay attention to his hands at all times. It's amazing what he can do to a dog just by touching and petti...

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cjhills wrote: A fair dog with excellent litter mates may be a better bet than a excellent with dysplastic litter mates

You're a smart man Jerry.

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Allen Dunbar.... www.grousefeatherkennel.com

I hear good things about McInteer and Dr. Terry Terlep as well.

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But it should only take a few hours to pull and replace the heads. And only the big dealers have the equipment to pull the cab. I assure you my local shop could not. That kind of thinking is OK for a new $60,000 rig, but what about when it is 15 years old? Neil...they use the twin post lift to rais...

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Run the dog and don't worry. Good judges may notice the missing length, but won't care as long as it doesn't flag and he carries it well while on the move and on point.

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You going?

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kninebirddog wrote:...... to walk away with that bitter beer face ....

Hey now...I happen to like bitter beer.

dan v

Great advice, thanks. It was American Field trial, and the unwritten rule ( it may even be written in AFTCA) "The trial is to the front" is ingrained. Once handler and judge A took off, handler and judge B needed to keep up, at least that is how I was taught. Loping to a find is acceptable, it was ...

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Have you ever seen a Judge handle a dog on a back when the handler was re-cinching their saddle? Handler A's saddle slid off causing them to fall behind. The brace mate came to a point well ahead of handler A and A's dog came up behind and honored. Judge dismounted and stood next to the honoring do...

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Neil, If the handler of Dog B wanted to go to the front fine, but what if he/she was content to "run their own race"? You inserted yourself into the brace as more than an observer. Now Dog A...did the scout call point to the front? If so, I'm inclined to penalize the dog, for the scouts behaviour. A...

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If you can't judge friends and acquaintances fairly...you shouldn't judge. So for me, doesn't matter. What can be the problem is the appearance of impropriety...too bad.

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I hate that rule - not allowing the dog to relocate himself when he sees the birds leave the bush in front of him - on their own initiative- and see them fly into the bushes behind him.This can all happen before anybody even gets to the dog. So then I try to flush from the original bush and their a...

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Neil wrote:....I really want the dog to repoint it, not ignore it. It happens a lot on preserves, and with woodcock and snipe, even grouse sometimes.

Neil, marking a flushed ruff, whether shot at or not, and going after is the most common to ever happen in the woods.

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A lot depends on what the handlers decide to do, if both go in and fire I call it divided . If handler B fires then it is a point and a back but you already know that dog b is out. If Dog A is in fact the best dog on the ground but needs more bird work I might even go as far as to tell Handler A to...

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This is one of the most interesting, educational and subjective threads I have seen on this forum. It is obvious we have some very seasoned vets here making some great comments. Just reading all the comments has made my viewpoint change several times. New judges could benefit greatly from reading t...

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Hall of Famer, noted judge Joe Walker says, "You going to run on funny birds, you got to judge funny birds". That's sage advice. A man-made event with man-made birds....as a judge, you better have that in the back of your mind. I'll add another twist...let's say they had a derby stake earlier in th...

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DGFavor wrote:

Nice redneck boot dryer!

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Ray, I normally enjoy what you write, but that is crap. There is a whole world of difference in how pn birds act/react compared to wild. Not to mention the venue. I've done preserve hunts...and just looking at the spent shells on the ground should be an indicator of the quality of the hunt.

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slistoe wrote: Maybe nothing?

Nationwide? Maybe nothing....in specific geographic areas?...maybe something.

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You can see Wyndancer in the saddle. That alone is worth the trip. I'll be a in a sadde alright, but it will be at Branched Oak in the AGD stake. Pheasants are down 60 to 80 percent in SD. Whats a bird hunter to do?.................................................CJ He hops in the truck with you an...

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So...how 'bout we get back to figuring out what is wrong with HT's....what drives or doesn't drive participation?

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Tooling, here's what I can say about profanity. The effinhymer that slips in casual conversation doesn't concern me. However, you direct it at me, as a judge, my judging partner or your bracemate...trust me, there's gonna be trouble...and you're not likely going to be pleased with the outcome if you...

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Another thing that I don't really care for on premise. I don't like a 20/30 minute test that pup has prized inside of ten minutes and have the judges tell you to hold your dog. I get it if the brace needs the room/advantage to prize as that courtesy should ALWAYS prevail. As I said...I get it but I...

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