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I think it will be more like 1500 for a breeding and 1000 dollar pups from a specific kennel.Lets just hope he produces better than the last national champion,Johnny Crockett SUCKED in production of winners numbers,he got the hall of fame because ALMOST everyone that had ever seen him was dead and ...

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Traded some Surly Abrasive for some Heady Topper.

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Chukar12 wrote:Sheldon Twer comes from Ca...but I didn't pay attention to whether or not he qualified a 2013 dog
an extra day or twos drive is a small price to pay

The fuel and an extra day or two on the road is just a rounding error when you total up the costs.

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JKP, Well it's good that you have a soapbox to stand on here. But you are even anywhere near the original question, nor where the discussion has led us. In any organization that I've managed, it was common for people to identify a problem. Plenty of people can do that. What separates doers from comp...

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Ok, So let's kick this dead horse one more time, for the last time. It's hard to recall what Gordon Guy's question was, but I think the thread has migrated into something else. The question now it seems is this. Should AKC/AF test retrieving skills? I would answer that if the continental breeds (cur...

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And a Shooting Dog win doesn't qualify a dog?

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That looks alot like the "firing line" at Portage.

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JKP wrote:
My reasoning is that in today's world we need to make it plain that recovering shot game is a priority. A lot of venues don't do that.

No venue tests that. To my knowledge there is no event that actively shoots wild birds. None.

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Maybe there is a better way! Sure there is....it's done in the breedings and then personal experience of the dogs. Having me judge a retrieving stake does one thing, "Yep, he stood, he waited until sent, and brought the bird back." That's it. I have no idea if the ret is natural or FF'd....nor do I...

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I guess if I am for any change if it is going to make the retrieving requirement better and not worse or more diluted. There I am done now. That's all well and good, but you have to get the non-ret breeds on board then as well. And the FC standards in the retrieving dept are the domain of the breed...

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There was a movement afoot to institute a Retrieving Certificate....but as I understand, the GSPCA didn't care for the idea.

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[Hasn't the Britt Breed in fact produced more Dual CH than any other breed? YES!! I believe they have. I find very little difference in the looks of these three either (Brit, weim, and Irish red). Certainly possible, for all I know. But someone asked me about DC GWP and I counted (if I counted righ...

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Plenty of breed bias here. Some of you have versatile breeds, retrieving is the norm and expected. Other breeds were never expected to be retrieving breed. Could they be FF? Surely. The op's question? It's simply the local club making accommodations for the continental breeds, which are the bulk of ...

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I thought both those dogs looked like their confirmation had at least stayed true to their field breed cousins. The GSP and GWP were very good moving dogs. I would want to put my hands on the GWP...the back brushing, chalk helper and feathering has me a bit suspicious about the coat. He was the num...

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We have a field trial! I first saw Bo as a pup, and was around his grandsire often. He is a great dog. The three backs could be cause for concern, sounds like he may have been behind the other dog some. The judges will know. There is another way a dog can get that many backs. Neil, given Bo had SEV...

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This is something I've wondered about as well [quote="Highway Ends Kennel") Could this also allow "abnormal" sperm or sperm of less quality to fertilize the eggs and produce lower quality pups? This would be based on the premise that because the sperm is not subject to the same process of eliminati...

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With chilled fresh semen, what is the procedure from start to finish? Is there an article out there on just this topic? I have a vet within 50 miles that specializes in all of the AI stuff on dogs, but I'd rather inform myself without contacting them. Once again there is a magic additive called an ...

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You need to have 100 million live swimmers at thawback for a viable breeding,the quality inspection has a freezing and thawback with a small sample to determine how much is lost through freezing and thaw,the math is done and the remaining sample is packaged for breedings with the premise that the q...

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Thanks for the feedback KwickIrish and Saddle. Some of the other breeders I've talked have said the same thing. They like having access to more stud dogs that they normally wouldn't under a live breeding. Anybody had experience with using older frozen semen that maybe wasn't optimal quality. Say 30...

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deseeker wrote:I don't see a 12 o'clock tail on that pointer on the magazine---he wouldn't place in today's trials :roll: :roll:

From the person that runs a dog with no tail :roll:

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Saddle wrote:My experience has been good. I also use a top of the line clinic. I think that makes a difference.

Annnnnnnd...there's the answer.

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brad27 wrote: Serious question, or are you just trollin?

Oh...it'll catch something.

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I find trials can get a little slow, I can only take riding in the same circles for so long, helps to have an All Age pug on the string to entertain myself with during the downtime: http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s55/dgfavor/DSC04764_zpsf08dd4c9.jpg It a good thing you got the AA Pug by the col...

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Have FT'ed for amlost 20 years. The first FT dog ended up being DC/AFC/MH, won the 1999 Open GD Retrieve at our GSCA NFT. The second dog was DC/AFC. Been fortunate to have had some success with the dual type dog, but the current pooch is strictly field bred. Have had 4 FC's in our kennel. So long st...

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rkappes wrote:Rogue Mocha Porter bomber...it's one to try!

Find yourself the Steel Toe Size 7.....it was GREAT!

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Wow people care this much about dog games? Is there money up for grabs or something? Kinda. Maybe just pocket money for some of you. The National Open Shooting Dog Champion receives: $10,000 purse Sterling silver plate with quail motif and engraving indicating 2012 National Champion Oil painting by...

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Yer having a good trip Doc.

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If one of the handlers insists on pushing their dog, it could even be considered handler interference with the bracing dog. That does not happen very often, but maybe it should. RayG I was at Branched Oak one time, and I was riding the gallery of a OGD stake. One pro basically took off nearly a sho...

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Ray, how and when did it become permissible to chase/push a SD around a course?

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We have no idea what the story was at this trial...or any trial we don't go participate in or watch first hand...so congrats again!! Judgin' is a tough gig, kudos for callin' it like they saw it. :mrgreen: Way back, when I first started judging, an old timer gave me a bit of wisdom. "Four people ar...

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Locally, we vary rarely see a Brit entered in a FT other than a Brit FT. So, constructing a FT open to All pointing breeds with the exception of Brits isn't really going to accomplish much.

They've built a juggernaut of an operation....good for them. I wish Gordons could replicate it.

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I handled the 2012 GSCA NAFC. ZZ was in the calcutta. He "cost" $310, paid $865. Handled the R-U in the 2012 GSCA NAFC, Buck cost $365 in the calcutta, paid $606. The in the HAGSFA OSD Classic,, handled Buck to the win, paid $330.

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Saddle wrote:I misspoke Doug I should have said American field championships and not AFTCA.

Happy Jack won 3 derby championships in a month as a derby a couple years ago.

Psssst....that too is supposed to be secret.

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heck in AFTCA trials you can be a champion without ever running in an adult stake. Curious which AFTCA juvie stake(s) nets the victor a championship...?? Certainly there are some open derby championships that'll carry the champion title for the winner...just can't come up with an AFTCA event that d...

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Saddle wrote:heck in AFTCA trials you can be a champion without ever running in an adult stake.

Pssst....that's supposed to be a secret.

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I have a bomber of Steel Toe Size 7 that I'm saving for the Super Bowl.

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slistoe wrote: My bad. I should have added the smilies.

Just don't let it happen again.....

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slistoe, I think that nearly all that enter an AKC FT, no matter the level, has their eyes on the FC or AFC. How many that run AF have thoughts about entering a Ch? Agree that a Derby win cert has value. I'd certainly like to have Derby win on my gyp, because getting a 1-3 in a Shooting dog is no e...

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That statistic only means that a knife, bat or fists would have been used if the gun was not present. You won't stop domestic violence by getting rid of guns. That's a very true BUT a knife or a fist is less likely to kill. Studies have shown that women will fight back if it's a knife or a fist too...

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I haven't opened your link, but I'd bet it has plenty to do with Pitman-Robertson funds. And what we have found here in MN is that the pre-existing use of state owned property has quite a bearing on what you can do with it as far as FT/HT's go. We have been able to get new grounds to HT/FT on, but t...

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Quote from Jim--I will be the first to admit that I am against closed breed trials because it effects me personally. there are very few trials within a reasonable driving distance of me and within 2-3hrs there are at least 5-6 a year that are closed. it is frustrating to say the least. More so, whe...

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slistoe, I think that nearly all that enter an AKC FT, no matter the level, has their eyes on the FC or AFC. How many that run AF have thoughts about entering a Ch? Agree that a Derby win cert has value. I'd certainly like to have Derby win on my gyp, because getting a 1-3 in a Shooting dog is no ea...

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I see the benefit of juvenile stakes...the travel, living on a chain, the event atmosphere. I get that. But when you acquire 40% of your Ch. points from juvenile stakes, that's a problem. Maybe keep the points for juvenile stakes and make the total number required 14 if you use juvenile points and ...

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I see the benefit of juvenile stakes...the travel, living on a chain, the event atmosphere. I get that. But when you acquire 40% of your Ch. points from juvenile stakes, that's a problem. Maybe keep the points for juvenile stakes and make the total number required 14 if you use juvenile points and r...

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I wager that most people who have a gun for protection have it in their bedroom. I'd wager that most burglary situations when people are home is at night. If you hear someone, what's the difference between grabbing the gun in the drawer or punching in a code and grabbing the gun. 5 seconds? Most pe...

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Chukar12 wrote:I truly wish I had been born wealthy instead of so good looking...I would love to have the extra time to go watch. These are fascinating dogs.

Oh fer gawd.... :roll:

Joe, If I had your money....I'd burn mine.

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I wager that most people who have a gun for protection have it in their bedroom. I'd wager that most burglary situations when people are home is at night. If you hear someone, what's the difference between grabbing the gun in the drawer or punching in a code and grabbing the gun. 5 seconds? Most pe...

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If what we see is what owners of that breed expect and accept, who are we to tell them it's not up to par? And if they don't want their dogs running the way Shorthairs, Britt's, Setter's, Pointer's, ect, why shouldn't they close their trials? I think the Weimaraner's have been doing that for years,...

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Yeah ATF and DOJ has proven they are very competent at tracking weapons!! What good does tracking a gun legally purchased? A very small % of crimes are committed by the person who legally purchased the gun. Stats I saw around 6% not 50. If someone breaks into my house (they already broke laws) and ...

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Well, ya'll that were wronged need to converge on the AKC Performance Dept with yer pitchforks. Justice! We demand JUSTICE!!!

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