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I'm sure it's good, but probably over priced. You have mentioned Chow and Hills, both of which are inferior feeds. Have you tried any good feeds, or do you know what they are? There are many good ones, Diamond Premium, Loyall, Purina Performance, Black Gold , Nutrisource, etc. What about those?

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Swith to a food with more fat which will allow you to feed less volume and still maintain energy etc. An All Age would be appropriate, but a different one.

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Funny how that works, we had the whole kennel on Loyall and swithed to diamond with much better results :? :) I am guessing you've already used the website dealer locator Ranger, there are about 20 dealers in Mesa..... Which Loyall were you feeding and for how long? Also, which diamond did you swit...

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Sorry to hear that. I never met him. We were down there many years ago right before his troubles with FDSB, and his wife Drenda showed us around. She is a very nice lady, and I'm sure Al was a nice gentleman. RIP

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Could be a staph, which can happen quickly. Straight peroxide 2xday and antibiotic creme between. Outside possibility could be a fungus which will require a different treatment.

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There are many, many good dogs out there to breed to. No bad pedigrees among the Llewellins. Many of the good stud dogs aren't trialed much, but are usually great hunting dogs.

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Nice pup! You have the right to be proud.

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Very, very nice!

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TXLabMan wrote:Just curious but what does the hydrogen peroxide do for this issue?

If it's an infection, it will help. Not sure here.

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One thing to try a couple times a day is straight old H2O2(hydrogen peroxide). Pour it right on. Some benedryl would help also. Steve, I was always told Peroxide is ok for cleaning but prolonged use can cause damage to healing tissue. I believe there can be concern if it's a deep wound. I've treate...

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If a Lab stops to point while retrieving a duck, won't he drown?

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Because it doesn't matter whether the packpage is open or not for a return. The local manager just doesn't want to deal with it. How else would you know if a food product was defective? You have to open it. I would have made such a fuss there. Ae you on dope, or did you misread cooper's post? Maybe...

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Dog food is MUCH more expensive here in Canada - .50/lb would never feed a real dog Steve. Nothing under a dollar/lb is much worth putting through a dog you care about. I have fed many different feeds and feed types over the past 30 some years. Nutram is a very good food at a reasonable price point...

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I have never fed it. I looked at the ingredients(hi prem). Looks like a good product. Could be worth up to 60 cents a pound, but I would hope it sells for less. Again, dog coat, dog poop, dog energy etc are key to evauation. Steve come on LOLOLO, it is the good thing you are not Canadian. Food is a...

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I have never fed it. I looked at the ingredients(hi prem). Looks like a good product. Could be worth up to 60 cents a pound, but I would hope it sells for less.

Again, dog coat, dog poop, dog energy etc are key to evauation.

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Fine looking dogs! Setters Rule!

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They are dandys!

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As I often say, "most working dogs do well on most good feeds." Isn't it nice to have a voice of reason on this forum, namely me? There are no doubt dogs just like humans who have a sensitivity to certain ingredients and chemicals, but I assume the percentage is very small. Certainly, different dogs...

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One thing to try a couple times a day is straight old H2O2(hydrogen peroxide). Pour it right on. Some benedryl would help also.

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Sorry Steve I was 13 before you but big pups takes it. :mrgreen: There were a couple of others who guessed 7, but added incorrect info. You and I were completely correct with our prediction, so we will call it a draw and expect congratulations to both of us. Number one congratulations goes to Karen...

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Put me down for 7. She is a cutie. Rick Ha!! Big Steve, hows it feel to be second. :mrgreen: Congrats, Karen, the future BHO pups will take the FT trial world by storm. Rick I was the FIRST to post that I was correct! Plus, I had predicted they would be big pups, and 13.1 ounces is big for the bree...

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big steve46 wrote:I'm guessing 7 good-sized pups.

Could it be??

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I'm starting to pace the floor!

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On another note, I never even look at the recommended amounts on the bag. Just feed the amount that keeps your dog doing well and at the proper weight. Nobody can tell you how much to feed....Only your dog can do that, so don't be concerned about what the bag says or the amount others are feeding. ...

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Count me in!

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A cyst? If so, will probably leave on its own, or may need to be drained.

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Dropper? Half GSP and half Setter.

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Keep your hunting dogs in an outside kennel where they belong, and you don't have to worry about it.

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Has he treed any coons yet?

(just kidding) Fine looking pup!

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I'm guessing 7 good-sized pups.

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Perhaps I am unsophisticated and boring, but I have never needed much related to supplies etc that I couldn't get at WalMart. When I have needed specialty items, I just picked up the phone and called Lion Supply, or stopped by Cabelas. That said, PMs are needed. The only problem with that is that it...

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Again, there are differences between allergies and sensitivities in humans, and I can only assume the same with dogs. It's probably poorly researched but something to consider nevertheless.

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I would NEVER buy a dog without seeing his parent's pedigee first and being assured I would get papers. I'm sure most would agree. At the very least, the "breeder" in question should be totally exposed.

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Chukar12 wrote:Well said Ezzy

+1

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There's probably products that would be helpful, but if the dog is a dud, why breed with him? :roll: I'm sure your dog is a great dog, but when I said "dud," I was only referring to his breeding ability. Most would say you don't want to possibly pass that trait along. He's been bred once back in 20...

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big steve46 wrote:There's probably products that would be helpful, but if the dog is a dud, why breed with him? :roll:

I'm sure your dog is a great dog, but when I said "dud," I was only referring to his breeding ability. Most would say you don't want to possibly pass that trait along.

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There's probably products that would be helpful, but if the dog is a dud, why breed with him? :roll:

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Just what we needed. Another "elitist birdhunter" who knows more than us old boys who have been feeding and hunting dogs for 40 years or more. If the shoe fits ------

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Looks like another over-priced feed that some people use to pamper their non-working dog.

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Willie Hunter wrote:
big steve46 wrote:I like both, but I prefer PDJ because I'm only into pointing dogs.
Your dogs point?????????? REALLY?????

Sho do! Course I have a Llewellin Setter!

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Loyall is less expensive and as good if not better than PPP. One should not have to pay a dollar a pound for a very good feed, at least in most parts of the country.

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Keeping wife happy??? Reminds me of the old song, "To dream the impossible dream,---------."

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If it was an allergy, probiotics wouldn't help. Probiotics aid in maintaining helpful microorganisms in the GI tract. We all know about eating yogurt when/after taking antibiotics, right? ---------- I'm just saying that what most think are allergies are not true allergies for different reasons. Pro...

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When I was stationed at Ft. Rucker in the sixties, we used to call that area LA (Lower Alabama).

My advice is to learn to talk with a long-drawed out whiney voice, and spend a lot of time in the coffee shop with the good old boys. Maybe they will point you to some good hunting areas.

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An important source of advice are those who have fed working dogs many, many years. Also, what some thinks are allergies, may be nothing but overfeeding. It can also be "sensitivities" primarily to chemicals in the feed which is not a true allergy. Probiotics are good in many situations especially i...

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Again, most dogs do well on most good feeds. That said, I would prefer Nutrosource or Loyall over PPP. "dog food analysis" has some good ideas, but some of their conclusions are suspect.

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basic instinct wrote:There is a coupon $5 off in the New Gun dog Mag pg 31 for anyone looking for one just seen it.

Thanks, I need to buy some tomorrow. I will check Gun Dog as I need all the help I can get.

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Yeah lets take a good name and use a product that will be a hazzard to a dog :roll: My Lord ...I will continue to feed Loyall My dogs do extremely well on it they eat better then I do Heck I have even seen Big Steve eat stuff that was questionable :lol: Good comments! Did we ever figure out what th...

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Sounds like Nutrena is being sensible, and Ezzy appears to be correct.

It also appears that some look for any excuse to critcize our good commercial dog feed manufactuters. Not sure why. I believe in safety and high ingredient quality just like anyone.

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Most of the good adult formulas are great for pups. As long as the kibble is small and easy to chew. Most good adult formulas are essentially all-age even if not designated as such. I fed Loyall Active Adult to my pup, and still feed it. I also pay around $28 for 40#, and it's superior to most feed...

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