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Don

How old is this puppy?

Don

Wow There goes anyone's hopes for an October entry. This is the best picture i have seen, hands down. http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee240/jgf_gratiot/rockojpeg.jpg Much as I like that photo, there's a whole bunch that I like about as well. Seem's like someone puts up a really great one then so...

Don

jgf@gratiot wrote:I would at least like to see a shag in the mix, not a winter picture, but a favorite from my trip to North Dakota, a sunrise on the last morning in September on a covey of huns!

Absloutely beautiful!!!

Don

Different things work for different people. I've never used one nor even seen one that I know of. What little I have head of then though, they sound like a contraption and I don't care for them. Will be intresting to see what replys you get and hopefully some photo's of it in operation.

Don

Great job Tim!!!

Don

Dirtysteve wrote:

Put a brown collar on that dog and get rid of that ugly green and black brick around the neck and that is primo!!! I bet someone here can photoshop that out.

Don

I lost Skipper about 1983 and Hannah aabout 2001, still not over either of them. But I no longer look for them in pups either. Skip was a springer, I've never owned another. Hannah was a GSP and I had four others when she died, I have none now. A bit of me dies with every dog.

Don

Sure has been a ton of really nice pictures. I pity the guy that was never loved by a dog!

Don

I have owned and hunted Labs, Springer's, GSP's, Pointers and now Setters. What would I choose? At this point in my life I think I don't really want to start experimenting with dogs that might run all over. I like to take easy going walks and just enjoy watching the dogs, Squirt and Bodie can really...

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Thank you so much for all the replys, they are really reassuring, regardles what happens im excited to have him in the house as a part of the family, but I cant wait to knock down some birds with just him and me!!! take it easy. dan Keep in mind that most people that have problems with their dog, h...

Don

Rob,

Ya might pick two on Jan 31 and two more on maybe May 31. If you do that you'll have all the months covered by the end of Oct and that will give you two months to get them made up. Just a thought!

Don

My Katie died at 9yrs from a stroke. In her life time she never, not even once pointed a wing on a string but, she would chase that thing till she was exhausted! Now a bird was another story. She would point till H*ll froze over! Don't worry to much yet.

Don

Sounds to me like uncertainity left over from the training session. Your training her to the whistle, how? Using a check cord and jerking her when you want her to turn? Your also, maybe more importantly, teaching her to stay out, again how? You chasing her out, intentionally teaching her to stay awa...

Don

Slistoe, Thank you for the kind words. I am heartened to see that your powers of observation are improving! So tell us how many dog's you have trained to sit before you trained them to point? OOPS! We don't train dogs to point, it's instinctive! So tell us, do you teach your dogs to come before you ...

Don

All right Dave, well put! The integrity of trials is dependent upon the willingness of judges to protect it.

Don

Boy do I hate to admit to this. About a week ago Squirt and Bodie Got mistaken for Brittany's! The guy is a lawyer that owns shorthairs!

Don

Let's not go through this again!

Don

Yeah, it's all in the other thread. Benny, you haven't broke your dog yet either. That's where you will see the problem - if you do. If you don't break the dog, you won't see a problem. Another good excuse for those who don't want to break their dog. My dogs have been all been broke for years, on w...

Don

As I read all this garbage it makes me wonder just what kind of dogs are being used as model's of excellence. It is quite apperaent that what is not being bred for anywhere near the top of the list is biddability, it's well down the list somewhere behind desire, independence, stamina, ect. It is a s...

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Boy there's so many photo's here I can't get them all uploaded, my computer got stuck! Haven't taken much of the dogs for a month or so. But never posted this one before. Film photo from a panoramic camera. http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/DonFischer/paon2800.jpg Can't remember if Bodie or Sq...

Don

That certainly sounds like a pup! Ditto how old?

Don

While there are dogs that can scent birds from 40 yds under the right condition's there's two things a dog can't do from 40 yds. Hold a game bird and accurately locate a game bird. I think the dog pointing from 40 yds is either cautious to a fault or trained when to point rather than being allowed t...

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Ain't that the way it happen's. I lost Katie one time for ten day's and she had tags on her collar with Dunn's ID center on them. The guy that found her and picked her up called them three times and they didn't know what to do, shoot they HAD my phone number. My ex-wife lost rags once but only for a...

Don

If you have a problem with the launcher scaring the pup, the pup isn't ready in the first place. I've had two set's, the Wag Ag and my present set, R&R Farms. Both were/are noisy. I think the majority of the noise comes from the pad that holds the bird. It snaps when the thing opens. I'd guess that ...

Don

Strange, I've never lost a pin or a cylinder either. One think I learned when I was training is not to loan equipment of any kind to anyone! I did that exactly one time.

Don

I have two NEF's, both over 20yrs and working great! Friend of mine has the predissor to the NEF, H&R and I have no idea how old it is and it still works great.

Don

Give her my best for him. got my fingers crossed!

Don

I really don't know what has these folks all in a knot. Did anyone here imply that it was impossible to have any dog, anywhere learn sit without having serious problems with style and intensity on point? Hogwash. Pure unadulterated imagination on their part. What I don't get is the unabashed egotis...

Don

Hey Ross,

Been a hoot budy. I get to where I can't do my own, I'm sending them to you! We do have a lot in common.

Don

Ah heck, Hannah wasn't that bad looking. Pigs don't win. Six placements that weekend and Hannah got a first and a third and Percy a first.

Don

A few crappy looking dogs that had learned to sit before they were trained. Please note that none are wearing an e-collar except Squirt and Bodie who are still in training. http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/DonFischer/SquritandBodie002.jpg OOPS! Bodie doesn't have his e-collar on. http://i122....

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Thanks, I greatly appreciate the advise. The weim that I am training seems to be on target except for the kennel. I not sure if it is a weim thing, but when I command him to the kennel he takes off running from me. That's why I have considered reprimand. The other commands were much easier to teach...

Don

The hand that rocks the cradle!

Don

I've never had a dog sit on a point. I did have one dog in that would sit on a whoa though. The cure was simple. When the dog sat, I'd pull it back up gently with the cc and as soon as it got up I'd release the pressure on the cord and give the whoa command again. The owner simply had the dog confus...

Don

You would have a hard time teaching me that concept. What is it, just start nicing till the dog does what you want? This will be a totally foreign idea to me.

Don

Agree with GH and bobman. There is no reason to pop a dog with a leash or slap it on the butt to teach it to sit. I have never made a secret that I used to put check cords on pups in the whelping box at about ten days. It's to get the pups used to giving to the CC, or the leash as the case may be. W...

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Benny, I believe you should be seeking advice or better yet train with pro or solid ameature bird dog trainers in your area. If your intentions are to someday use an e-collar your dog needs to become conditioned to it and what better way to condition than here, kennel & heel. Today's better e-colla...

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H B mo. H a g d! Thats computer talk.

Don

Teach the command then introduce the e-collar.

Don

I have never seen the wonder lead other than photo's on Rick's site. It looks to me much like the show lead used to show dogs but much stouter and it pop's open to loosen itself when the dog quits pulling. If that's right, I can't see a thing much different than a chock chain.

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I think it was Dave Quint that wrote this: "Maybe but I highly doubt it. They allowed that to go to print for a reason." Many years ago I did write a very long letter to Amer Fld about the number of dogs that were running themselves to death. I could not believe that the AF trialers were glorifying ...

Don

I would strongly recommend "The Best Way to Train Your Bird Dog, The Delmar Smith Method" x Bill Tarrent. I think there are only a handfull of bad books on training. The secret is to follow the method to completetion once you start one. I don't recommend wolters book!

Don

BUT If you expected the same manners out of a dog while hunting wild birds as when trialing wouldn't your dogs be all the better for it. A bunch of wild birds on a private piece of ground. SOUNDS GREAT!! Sure you will probably watch way more fly away than you bag. SO WHAT. After being schooled by a...

Don

I have watched what were deemed good trial dogs that weren't good hunting dogs. Then again I wouldn't have called them good trial dogs myself. I have watched good hunting dogs that had everything they needed to make good trial dogs, except an owner that wanted to train and trial them. It is my opini...

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I have to clean up every day and listen to my man complain but it needs to happen. It depends how bad you want to train. I've never known a woman to listen to a man 40 sec. into a marriage, after 40 yrs you probably can't even hear him! What my latest ex-wife did was to give me a bird of my own and...

Don

X3. Let her point all the mice and "bleep" birds she wants. Don't be suprised if one of those "bleep" birds or mice thun into a game bird. Don't make any attempt to break her off "bleep" birds or mice, what your really doing then is breaking her off pointing! PS: Even if she handles them well, don't...

Don

I'd take them. Don't see any problem so long as you insist on the same level of preformance. A pheasant is just another bird. Does things different at times but just another bird. The bird work you expect from your dog should not wavier. I would not shoot a bird that the dog stopped to flush on. I'd...

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I'm not sold on the idea of pedigree. I'd much rather see the parents preform. I just wonder how many people when they get done reading the pedigree of a dog can tell us what traits even three generations produced? And if you don't put titles on the dogs on the pedigree, now what do you know? The do...

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I used the pinch collar, found the choke and proper obedience drills much more effective. Doing Squirt and Bodie right now and no fighting with it. Take an obedience course from someone that does just obedience. The choke collar is like any other training aide, it can be used wrong by anyone. The on...

Don

You can answer this one yourself. Tell us what you did to get her steady to flush and wing on the pigeons? There's your answer. When you left the pigeons behind and moved on to game birds, start over from the begining. It goes much faster the second time!

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