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jimbo&rooster

dirtysteve, I love that last picture..... My favorite hunting spot is an old ox bow on the wabash river that has been cut off from the main river bed. it is not necisarily a hot spot or honey hole, but it dose provide a few malards and divers every year. its the first place i ever took my father wat...

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Assuming these were wild birds you let the dog out of the truck to go after, I wonder if it isn't a simpler explanation of wild birds that just wouldn't stand crowding and him being used to moving close to planted birds with no problems. Nothing wrong with holding off birds for awhile but I might a...

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the reason that I like to use a table for FF is that Generally speaking FF is an unpleasant experience for the dog. If the dog is going to associate that with somthing I would rather it be with the table and not me or whatever else. that said to this day if i clear all the decoys and collars and cra...

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Very refreshing advice. Seems like all I've heard is birds birds and more birds early and often. I found myself wondering how early? So I thought I would specify the time frame I was interested in, knowing with all the knowledge on this board that I would get a better feel for things. I have access...

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Im not looking to turn 100 acres in southern indiana into a plantation by any means, the decision to put this ground into CRP had more to do with soil erosion than it did bird populations but is it unreasonable to think that putting this property that already holds birds into CRP will help the bird ...

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So I spent the morning with my father in law at the soil conservation office. long story short he put in applications to put 109acres into CRP, this will be 109 Continuous acres with a small stip of woods through it and a few tree rows to beak it up making it about 120-130 acres total, there are als...

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Toyota if your looking for a 1/2 ton What a joke... Are we real Americans here? Really???? I would imagine being from indiana that you surely are aware that hundreds if not thousands of jobs are generated by the toyota plant about two hours south of you where the toyota half ton trucks are built......

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I have had regular cab trucks my entire life and after buying an extended cab a month ago im not sure how i ever got buy with out the extra room. and to be honest my next one will probly be a four door. my buddy just got a 07 f150 its a shotr bed with that cute little half 10in back window and it is...

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Every dog is excited about getting out into the field and getting ino birds but like everyone has said it comes down to obedience. Somewere along the line your dog has figured out what he can get away with and now that's where your troubles have come from. With retrievers it all comes down to obedie...

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I use my training table for force fetching. It is my understanding that the use of the table is kind of intended to get the pup up in a place where they arent really in a comfortable place.
Jim

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You are WAY behind with this dog and going far too slow with him. At 19 months a lab should be a full handling retriever, obedience trained, force fetched, and handling. Your basic problem is that the dog is NOT obedience trained well. If it were, he'd come without question when you commanded, no m...

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I used the Book 10 minute Retriever, and had faqirly good results with it. Have you introd the e collar? how about Force Fetch? If you havnt Done either of these then, technically you hae time to FF your pup using the method in the book you have before dove season starts. but if you dont want to sta...

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Yeah. This is not somthing I make a habit of just one of those brain farts that happens. As - cut him loose I thought about the pinch collar and check cord next to the box. When I was running him today it just gave me time to think back over it and I just had a feqwq questions I wanted to ask
Jim

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Ok... so I have been using pigeons and a luncher to help get my 9mo GSP pointing, I have been getting good results with good solid points (holds for 25-30sec). however, the other day I dumped him out on a pair of quail that I saw running across the road and he just went right in and ripped them. I h...

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all of the above are great advice but let me recomend one more...... when ever going out of state with my dogs I always make sure to have an up to date set of shot records. I have never had any trouble with my dogs but when my wife used to travel with her horses to shows they had trouble once with a...

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I plan on taking my 9 month old GSP dove hunting next month. All I want is for him to locate and retrieve dead birds. We have been working on retrieving bumpers and that is going well but this weekend I shot a few pegions out of a barn and tried to get him to retrieve them and that didn't go well. ...

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I can not tell you much from experience since most of my dove hnting has been over my labs, but every one that I have talked to has told me that my GSP should be reliably finding and pointing birds before I do any "retriever"type work ie, dove and duck hunting with him.
JIm

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I agree with EZZY i believe that you are looking for trouble. 10-15 minutes could very well ruin a young dog or cost you a ton of money to get this dog fixed, or it might be fine...... your call, best bet is to get a starter pistol and go out to the field, it took me almost a month to properly intro...

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Ive got several shotguns like im sure most of you do, but my go to guns are a 20ga Baikal o/u, which I use for all of my upland work. for waterfowl I shoot a winchester SX3.
Jim

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the Wolters books are great and have been used to train a ton of decent gun/meat dogs but 60+yrs later there are alot of other options out there....... I started my lab using water dog but eventually moved on to another program, there are several great programs out there, I recomend doing a little r...

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My first shotgun was an old iver johnson single shot 16ga, it was choked full, but that didn't stop me in the ignorance of youth from pushing steel shot through it at ducks and geese and I killed a ton of squirrels and rabbits with that old gun.... Got rid of that gun for a 12ga pump and it is one o...

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thanks Dave, thats basically what I wanted to hear. I actually had planned to start with the HTs, but as someone with no experience in either I have a tendency to lump the two together in my mind, right or wrong.
JIm

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I agree man if youve got a few dogs that you run together any how you just as well have a decent box to use, this is somthing that youll use alot. a decent dog box can be made from marine grade plywood that will last you for years for fairly short money. Do what you want to but im gona tell ya Ive s...

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thank you for the answers and information, I have been rolling the idea around since befor i got my pup, in general I have a bad taste in my mouth for competitive hunting after running coon hounds for a few years, but Ive found that dealing with some of the retriever people that by looking for that ...

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So ive been looking on the AKC website and I noticed that the majority of the Events in the area I was looking at were by breed specific clubs, Now I realize that this may seem like an absurd question but say a Brittany club is hosting an event, am I correct to assume that all pointing breeds are al...

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A one dog Hog hunting operation could turn out bad for the dog, your best et would be to make some conections in the local pig hunting groups. since you intend to hunt with a bow then at very least youll need a couple of dogs to bay the pig and in a perfect world at least one catch dog. when I had M...

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My dad bought a piece of property when I was a kid that had a hand carved sign at the entrance to the drive that simply read OAK RIDGE and when I started to have coon and coyote hounds I used that name as a kennel name for all of my pups, as I moved on to retrievers and eventually my GSP I just kept...

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I have a one year old lab with no training at all (hunting or otherwise). Is it to late for me to start training my new dog? He is my first dog to train on my own as well so I am looking for some good advice, and I have been told by friends that this is the place to get it. all of the above comment...

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Thanks for info. I have been working hard with my britt since she doesn't seem to want obey my commands unless she has her training collar on. Funny thing is I only need to use the tone button to get her to obey . So we kind of took a step back to the basics again Im not trying to be that guy but I...

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Thanks again for the advice everyone. I have been checking out the George Hickox site the was suggested and a couple others. Will let y'all know how he comes along. I have not put him on birds since starting this thread. I need to get a better plan/program together and stick with it. We have just b...

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my lab and my GSP are both allowed on the couch but, they both know that when I say get down its time to find a new place to loaf

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[quote Jim, out of curiousity - how do you train the flusher to work with pointers. Does he "honor" a point by staying back, or maybe just well enough recall trained that you can call him in to heel when a dog is on point? I think it would be a blast to see both at work at the same time. Ironically...

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[quote Jim, out of curiousity - how do you train the flusher to work with pointers. Does he "honor" a point by staying back, or maybe just well enough recall trained that you can call him in to heel when a dog is on point? I think it would be a blast to see both at work at the same time. Ironically...

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Ok.... well I guess Ill be that guy :twisted: . I gather from your original post and the dogs that you have mentioned that you are looking to get a pointing breed, but, with the lack of birds in your area and the probability that most of your hunting will be done on game preserve birds, might I sug...

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Ok.... well I guess Ill be that guy :twisted: . I gather from your original post and the dogs that you have mentioned that you are looking to get a pointing breed, but, with the lack of birds in your area and the probability that most of your hunting will be done on game preserve birds, might I sugg...

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for ducks I blow a echo timbre, and an old buck gardner that i got from the old timer that got me into hunting 15yrs ago. for geese I blow a wing tamer acrylic call that a friend of mine produces, and a foiles Coles carnage collector.
JIm

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If a dog wont retrieve and that is one of the requirements yo have for your dog then you might be looking into a force fetch program. it is a slow tediouse process but well worth it in my opinion. there are several sources on line. I used the method in the book Ten Minute Retriever by John and Amy D...

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I got a femail named Daisy, but her call name in the field sometimes starts with a B :lol:. haha, Its really hard to think of a name that doesnt end in an ie or Y when your told not to as part of the requirementa. like when my wife says dont worry about the cake on the counter :D . I always liked Be...

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I grew up with my dad driving dodge trucks and have owned probly a half a dozen dodges over the last 10 years. I have never had a lick of trouble out of any of them but ive also never had one that got better than 10-12mpg. So..... last week I bought a 2000 F250 super duty with the 7.3l 4x4 and 73k. ...

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it doesnt sound like dog is 100% on trying to do things for and with you with game. Only my opinion, on what and how you say things. I could be very well wrong, only my opinion. I wont argue this at all. He does good in the field getting out hunting, and he is good about knowing where I am and stay...

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I started with Walters Water Dog and dont really recomend it, but there is some good informaton in it if you can borrow it from some one. the Book and method which I got the most use from was 10 Minute Retriever by John and Amy Dahl. The Evan Grahm series gets alot of attention from the field trial ...

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ive been doing some yard work with him. he does extremely well on the cc I have not transitioned this to the field yet. I am about to make the transition from check cord to the E-Collar. I dont use any of the Whoa training that we have done out in the field when I run him unless I am right there whe...

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thanks. its not that he wont point so much as that he wont hold point...... for example. today I ran him on some property that is unplanted farm ground that is grown over with CRP along the edges and there are alot of birds, well he will be working the field and catch scent and he will run in and lo...

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thanks. this more or less what I had planned on doing. the pup is 9mo and I screwed up and let him catch a couple of quail early on in his training so im now trying to fix my mistake. I had been running him on wild birds thinking he'd find out he couldnt catch them and it has been helping but id rat...

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So I have found a local guy where I can get a few pigeons, but I do not own a launcher..... I do however have a guy that I work with who will loan me one. I was wondering. since I am having trouble with my GSP estabolishing point am I better off to just go straight to using the launchers or would it...

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I work in a place that sells some used guns and you should be able to pick up a good used gold from $650-750 depending on your definition of good shape, and whether it is a newer model or an older one you may be able to pick up an older one for closer to $500, theyve been making the gold for some ti...

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I cut my teeth following my dads red setters and they were good dogs but hunted for themselves....., my first "bird dog" was my current lab. I have hunted preserve pheasants and chuckar as well as wild quail and waterfowl over her, Im currently training a GSP. of all these dogs I will agree that Coo...

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I think it's useless to look at one dimension of the problem. I think it will take a full-court press. Cover, food (including the insects necessary for the chicks), predator control, etc. The whole enchilada. Greg J. I agree, but other than predators, which have been around as long as the wild bird...

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Ive noticed locally the places where we see quail are either areas where the fields are still reletively small (50-100acre) and have woods around them, or over the last couple years in a part of the county where it is mostly sandy soil a few of the farmers actually planted milo on the corners of the...

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As long as the hawks are protected, I don't see wild birds making a come-back in my area. that is a verry good point but there have always been hawks where there were wild birds (i personally cant tell the difference btween a hawk and a 'yote :twisted: ) but I dont think that predators are the prob...

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