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mudhunter

It depends on if you want to sell puppies or start a kennel. If you want to sell puppies look for the most advertised stud in your area. .... But if you truly want to start a line you better go out and see the studs thats pedigree match up to your bitch well. Don't just see the dog once either, see ...

mudhunter

Matrix is currently owned by Don Conicelli. He is a dog that can really move out, if I had to guess I would say that is where your run is coming from! I will add that with that type of blood don't encorage them to run, the run is in their blood, keep him listening and close for a while. Matrix has p...

mudhunter

BTW, best of luck with Betty! Let us know how she does...she was a heck of a dog and should have been out competing years ago. I plan on giving her the best chance I can. I know Wayne would have loved to see her out pointing birds off horseback! I got her out this weekend for her first expiernce ou...

mudhunter

Hey Karen I have to check but I have a feeling I might be in the market for an extra small Harness myself. I now have a very small female pointer, Betty, that i really don't think will fit in my harness. Please let me know what you find.
-Dave

mudhunter

If your serious about giving trials a shot then the only use of the whistle should be to send the dog on. Use it to encorage the dog to run, its usefull on the breakaway and when you get the dog turned in a direction and want to send him out. Plus if the dog starts messing around with old scent or s...

mudhunter

I sold mine. I train with an old pro that doesn't use them and thats how I learned. A checkcord and a helper "at certian stages" you can train a dog for all situations you will need. Plus some people become too reliante on launchers and don't let a dog learn how to handle birds that are running, bir...

mudhunter

I agree with Ezzy, you got to look around for the hawks. I make sure to look around for birds perching in the area and will get on the fourwheeler and chase them away first. BIrds are too valuable to not. Yesterday was one of the worse days I have seen in Eastern PA, they all most be here right now....

mudhunter

Sure he may be do ok, but he may not either, Ive seen some of those with just miserable prey drive! I have all trial bred Setters and some are wild but others are totally calm easy going house dogs and all are spectacular bird dogs. You should consider getting your deposit back and putting it on a p...

mudhunter

At a year old I would not let the dog chase anymore. I would break the dog using pen-raised birds and then bring him back into the wild birds and reinforce the training. Your at the perfect time for it, the dog should be old enough to take formal training, the wild birds should be getting ready to n...

mudhunter

Thanks for all of the suggestions and interesting follow-ups about the Llewellin lines (battle lines?). I was unaware of all of the controversy surrounding Llews. Perhaps I should look into Ryman-type setters instead. :? Check out www.onpointoutfitters.com They are located in southwest PA. The owne...

mudhunter

coverdog on the other hand you want a dog who is out of site in the woods so when he bumps birds Nobody will see it and u call wild flush. coverdog people dont want their dogs to find birds or they may not place you can win a grouse championship without ever pointing a grouse. coverdogs promote zer...

mudhunter

Ray, I can't think of any trial dog that hasn't been encouraged. It is what ewe both call training. And I have seen dogs that run instead of hunting and most if not all have been bred to do that. I think we are finally coming back from the run era and are looking for dogs that do more hunting but t...

mudhunter

If a setters not barking you better go make sure he is still alive!

mudhunter

If you have a good pro locally go and show him the dog, looks like a nice dog that needs to learn manners.

mudhunter

ezzy333 wrote:Are both of those Ruffies the PA spookie ones or just the regular run of the mill Ruffies?

Ezzy

I am a born and raised PA hunter and I never knew till this forum that we had the spookies birds to hunt in the world (guess we are really good)!!

Nice looking dog and birds!

mudhunter

I commend you for making that decision, too many people get too excited about a derby ribbon and leave a young dog down that is picking up bad habits! I would have liked to seen your dog go, I will be down on Sunday ( the weather man might ruin that). Good luck in the puppy. Derby for a season, shoo...

mudhunter

Ladies & Gentlemen, Man is this a typical FT, BS type thread. Different dog breeds mature at different rates, sure they can differ from line to line also. Most Gordon dogs are slow maturing but live long lives, Small Munsterlanders are similar. Not all people want a fast maturing dog, some hunters ...

mudhunter

Could you set up a recall pen?

mudhunter

I don't compete in any all Age competion so my opinion of all age dog would be meaningless. What I can tell you is that I have seen Luke's Shooting dog string a number of times and they were always some of the biggest running shooting dogs in the stake, he already knew how to handle a big going dog.

mudhunter

Oh Doug... you are so right!!!!! it's the handlers that have the worse of it with pen raised birds! Heck, all the dog has to do is stand still! Someone has to make a video of handlers trying to get pen birds to fly.....I'll bet you could win the million dollars! Fuzz I chased a covey of pen raised ...

mudhunter

Doesn't make any sense mudhunter. There's no point in wasting entry fees and traveling if you dont have a legit chance to win from the get go. Your right, sit home and complain how unfair it is. I do actually agree a little bit, if I know a judge has a REAL bias against me or my dogs I might not go...

mudhunter

Handling off horse is a huge advantage. You can see the dog better, the dog can see you better, the dog keys off the horse's direction from a distance, you can get to finds faster, you can get back to the front faster. All those things would be my guess what the judges are referring too.

mudhunter

just run your dog, you know if your dog deserves to win or not.

mudhunter

If you are considering a trainer go see the trainer work dogs for a few sessions and learn how they work. You want a trainer that works the dogs the way you think they should be. I personally don't like a lot of bird work, I prefer quality of bird work over quantity. So for me I would be looking for...

mudhunter

"bleep" wrote:The pup will be coming from Warriors Mark http://www.warriorsmark.com/es_pups.htm

Nice pedigree, should have potential! Good Luck!

mudhunter

I don't agree that the Garmin encourages non handling dogs.

A dog that doesn't want to go with you is no good period. All the Garmin tells you is what you should already know, he doesn't listen!

mudhunter

I really liked it and think it's more like the real deal than Shooting Dog. Because you don't have to train your dog? Really, other than the level of training, what is the difference? That's exactly it, no qualms about it. Field trials were put into place to asses the best dogs for breeding in orde...

mudhunter

call Doug(706 833-3571) or Harold Ray (706554-5027 to discuss Smith Setters. You can read about Harold in this article http://www.thetruecitizen.com/news/2007 ... e/001.html

mudhunter

If I was there my dog would have not gotten out of the box in the second field! I may not be able to control the other hunter and his dog but I can at least keep mine safe. Not to mention I wouldn't have my pionting dog down on the ground with a lab anyway unless the lab was just retrieving birds an...

mudhunter

When you find out what caused it let me know, I have a few dogs here that I can try it on!!

mudhunter

I work dogs with a good pro. I get to see him work a lot of dogs on a regular basis (pointing breeds). I truly have seen dogs of all breeds show ridiculous softness and ridiculous stubbornness, I don't think any one breed ( at least of the more popular breeds with broad gene pools) can be said, on t...

mudhunter

New puppies rarely don't puke on the first car ride! Whats the breeding on your new pup?

mudhunter

looks like good news to me!

mudhunter

Bring the dog down, ignore people that try to tell you that our PA grouse are some how a different species of grouse than any other state has!!

mudhunter

with a little snow is the perfect scouting condition! You can look for tracks if its a light powdery snow, gives you a good idea how many birds are around and where they hang out.

mudhunter

You need to find two things, thermal cover and food. The thermal cover in my area is often white pines, the food varies but once you move a few look at what kind of food is nearby and stay with that. They like the sunny sides of hill on cold days and try to stay out of the wind. When it gets real co...

mudhunter

nice, he will never forget that buck!!

mudhunter

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mudhunter

i don't know about pathogens but I know of no useful techniques in training a pointing dog that requires wings, maybe some one can educate me.

mudhunter

Klondike, Welcome to the real world of Grouse hunting, our Spooky Pa Grouse give lessons like this to our gun dogs all the time. Looks like we are now hearing from some of the young Grouse hunters who actually spend time in the Grouse woods, hunting Grouse. The cure for your problem is a Ryman Sett...

mudhunter

make sure that you mention you will be releasing them again! Might be a law against releasing invasive species.

mudhunter

Good Luck, I think I will be going one of the days as well. The english Setter Club's Trial is thanksgiving weekend and they are having some walking stakes as well, give Larry Craig—(215) 915-9785 a call if you want any information.

mudhunter

Interesting videos clip on this site
http://www.talltimbers.org/gb-nestvideo.html

mudhunter

my buddy takes his everywhere, bird hunting, fly fishing, hiking, etc. He has a backpack case, it is designed for the camera.

mudhunter

use the collar and don't say a word. Don't worry about the age of the dog, get him now and nip it right away. If they start to get away with it a few times its harder to break down the road. Even if he's never had the collar used on him in training? Trash breaking is the simplest thing, you say the...

mudhunter

use the collar and don't say a word. Don't worry about the age of the dog, get him now and nip it right away. If they start to get away with it a few times its harder to break down the road.

mudhunter

Always carry pliers with you, a leatherman tool is what I carry, when grouse hunting. That didn't look to bad, you can pull them out and keep hunting. Dog ok?

mudhunter

if the area doesn't get hammered with too much hunting pressure I don't think a bell spooks game. If you have a lot of hunting pressure all noise will spook the birds after a while.

mudhunter

also register the dog in both you and your wives names and then when you place the dog and the owner is listed she will see her name! Everybody likes to see their name in print!

mudhunter

I still believe if I ran a gsp and my Gsp ran better he would still lose. the reason there aren't many gsps in coverdog is because there are better games to play without having to overcome breed bias don't know how that perception will be overcome. Are you basing your belief on first hand experienc...

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