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by Winchey
Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:39 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: WINGSHOOTING USA
Replies: 68
Views: 21202

Re: WINGSHOOTING USA

That has been my experience as well AC, I did think they would still like to watch good dogs. You may be right though and that is supported by the very few people we have entering dogs in our gundog stakes (fun, unbroke hunting stakes) ever walk the braces other then their own or stick around to wat...
by Winchey
Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:49 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: WINGSHOOTING USA
Replies: 68
Views: 21202

Re: WINGSHOOTING USA

I am not following? Weekend warriors don't like watching good dogs and good dog work?
by Winchey
Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:11 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?
Replies: 60
Views: 23700

Re: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?

You have said that several times.

I have been baffled the entire thread, much as Chuckar seems to be. I see probably close to 100 different bird dogs and a few retrievers a year and virtually none of them have been FF'd or heard a clicker?
by Winchey
Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:32 am
Forum: Training
Topic: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?
Replies: 48
Views: 13410

Re: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?

I hardly ever get in front of a dog to flush a grouse unless I cut a wide circle, they almost always flush when I am 10-30 yards from my dog, so if you have a 50 yard do then yes, the bird will probably only sit there for a few seconds, depending on how long it takes you to walk 20-40 yards :idea: I...
by Winchey
Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:39 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?
Replies: 60
Views: 23700

Re: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?

I have only FF'd one of my dogs and did a half "bleep" job doing it, and probably should do it over, but all my dogs were taught to take a line or at least when I say fetch they know theres something out there to find. Start on small successes and expand. I just sort of did my own thing and things c...
by Winchey
Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:11 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?
Replies: 60
Views: 23700

Re: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?

Your question is more like is there any way people who have no interest in learning how to train a dog can train a dog. The answer is sort of, lots of people don't train there dogs and just take them hunting and are completely satisfied.
by Winchey
Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:03 am
Forum: Off Topic Forum
Topic: Commercial Weed Eaters
Replies: 8
Views: 4259

Re: Commercial Weed Eaters

Stihl, will last for years, easy to handle, if wacking ditches all day everyday I'd go husqvarna
by Winchey
Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:19 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?
Replies: 48
Views: 13410

Re: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?

Ya, they can be "bleep" to Canadians too, most of my problems going to and from the states are at the Canadian borderlol.
by Winchey
Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:16 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?
Replies: 60
Views: 23700

Re: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?

All, thank you for taking the time to write. I think it important to restate my reason for writing the question. It is a question for hopefully a considered response or some experience that can add positively to the conversation. I do not have the answer(s). In my short 71 years, experience, educat...
by Winchey
Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:09 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?
Replies: 60
Views: 23700

Re: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?

I would teach it the exactly the same way? I think it would be more difficult to have a finished dog trained to flush on command, stop to the flush then retrieve on command, it is more complex and there are more chances to screw up, why in thw world would that be easier or require different techniqu...
by Winchey
Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:04 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?
Replies: 60
Views: 23700

Re: Alternative to Force Fetch and Clicker training?

I am not sure I understand your question. I don't want to get into another clicker training thread, but you don't need a clicker to teach anything. You can get pretty good results using positive reinforcement and shaping, depending on the dog, the trainers skill at implementing these techniques, jus...
by Winchey
Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:47 am
Forum: Training
Topic: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?
Replies: 48
Views: 13410

Re: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?

Still lots of birds around Saint John. Did you live here? About setters being crossed with pointers and vice versa there were setters closly resembling our trial setters more than 100 years ago, back when they were kicking pointer "bleep". Everyone I know up here involved in coverdogs are first and ...
by Winchey
Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:10 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?
Replies: 48
Views: 13410

Re: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?

Stuck on Setters because of the look and I have the opportunity to go watch a bunch of them and pick a breeding I like. There are some nice Pointers and Britts around too, but I like the look of the setters better, britts are a bit handicapped for the coverdog trials as well. The rest of the breeds ...
by Winchey
Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:20 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?
Replies: 48
Views: 13410

Re: How to help establish a Bold dog that is under foot?

Have you ever got the dog on birds and let it hunt and find birds on its own? I am not sure how you are classifying the dog as bold? Either way the advice you have gotten is good. I am also not sure how you steadied a dog that has no inclination to go find them, or at least I wonder why you did. Did...
by Winchey
Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:31 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Why do we lionize wild birds?
Replies: 104
Views: 45984

Re: Why do we lionize wild birds?

I didn't say you prefer crappy flying quail. I asked what does a dogs preference have to do with the thread? The question was why do we Lionize wild birds. Now unless the OP is a dog and holds the opinion that dogs lionize wild birds then your post is not revelant. I don't base my hunt on what my do...
by Winchey
Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:06 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Why do we lionize wild birds?
Replies: 104
Views: 45984

Re: Why do we lionize wild birds?

Lol, he is nothing special that is for sure. He never was a bird eater though, he always brang them back. I still think he would rather try and catch birds then point them though if he had it his way. I was pretty close to docking his tail and convincing my self he was a springer spaniel lol. Just m...
by Winchey
Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:08 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Why do we lionize wild birds?
Replies: 104
Views: 45984

Re: Why do we lionize wild birds?

Most of the pheasants you hunt at lodges in SD are hatched in mn. and migrate to SD via semi. All birds are dumb they either sit and let you shoot them or fly away. in a lot of ways wild are easier because you know how they will react. The dogs don't care a bird is a bird..............................
by Winchey
Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:15 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Why do we lionize wild birds?
Replies: 104
Views: 45984

Re: Why do we lionize wild birds?

Because it is a true test of a bird dog. Any dog can go point a few put and take birds, it takes a good dog and experience to master a lot of wild bird species. I am not sure if your show changed any as I haven't watched it in a few years, but I got tired of watching dogs yoyo between a corn row and...
by Winchey
Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:02 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: AKC approved tracking collars
Replies: 27
Views: 7144

Re: AKC approved tracking collars

It would certainly have been nice for Garmin to give the Alpha the ability to track the DC-20,30,40 collars or at the very least the new 50's.
by Winchey
Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:36 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: VIDEO: Steady to Flush
Replies: 5
Views: 2826

Re: VIDEO: Steady to Flush

I am not sure if that was aimed at me or not, if so, I probably could have written that more clearly. What I mean is I like the dog to be completely broke. I think it is easier to keep a dog completely broke than just staunch. If you allow your dog to go with the flush, or shot, it is much more diff...
by Winchey
Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:27 am
Forum: Training
Topic: VIDEO: Steady to Flush
Replies: 5
Views: 2826

Re: VIDEO: Steady to Flush

I like when they are supposed to be broke, it sucks having a dog that goes with the bird, really tough to know when a wild bird flushed wild while being pointed or if the dog took it for a ride when they are allowed to go with the bird, much easier to correct when they are broke and make a mistake.
by Winchey
Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:22 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: 1 Dog for Wild Birds
Replies: 37
Views: 17369

Re: 1 Dog for Wild Birds

I rarely run one dog alone, unless its more of a training run than actual hunting or in the case of a young dog I run them alone most of the time. In my experience well trained dogs compliment not degrade one another. I would bet many folks who think more dogs equal more problems have had bad exper...
by Winchey
Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:23 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSPs with EP bloodlines?
Replies: 215
Views: 75276

Re: GSPs with EP bloodlines?

The first dog looks like it was thrown in, and I am pretty sure the second figured he could jump the pond lol.
by Winchey
Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:55 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

I would go Chasehill, Wild Apple, HiFive or Woodcock Haven.
by Winchey
Mon Jul 29, 2013 3:07 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: E-Collar
Replies: 54
Views: 13230

Re: E-Collar

IMO, ecollars are a great tool WHEN PROPERLY USED. If a dog is chasing a rabbit or a deer, you need to stop that dog. Also, it is not a shortcut. The main reason I use an ecollar is for the dogs safety. I want to make sure he listens to the come command every time. There might be something harmful ...
by Winchey
Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:09 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Forms of the truth and excuses
Replies: 5
Views: 1680

Re: Forms of the truth and excuses

My excuse is that I can't shoot worth a "bleep" and I can't be bothered to learn lol. Or I just blame it on the dogs haha.
by Winchey
Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:34 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

"You have the right. So when was the last time you were in Tioga, Pa? Somehow we manage to get along fine with traditional dogs like Setters and some nice wirehairs that act like setters, some of which can show and most are pretty true to standard with nice proper flat tail point. There is nothing m...
by Winchey
Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:21 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

What is wrong with an EP on woodcock over there? They are a lot easier to get pointed and hold better than ruffed grouse? Nothing!?... But as I say ,there is also nothing wrong with other breeds also?...What do you say? I prefer the trial type setters and pointers, but yes other breeds can find and...
by Winchey
Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:34 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

[quote="polmaisquote="JeffLex00"]This is probably a dumb question, but I figured I would run it past you guys on here and see what kind of experiences you might have had. I am currently hunting a GSP for grouse and woodcock in the northwoods of Wisconsin. I am very impressed by the looks and style o...
by Winchey
Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:24 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

My friend just got a pair of blackhawk pups from Calloway, we will see how they turn out.
by Winchey
Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:51 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

I would not mess with that formula. I think I may try some hytest skyhawk for the next pospect.

My friend has all that blood in his kennel, they get it done, grouse woods uncluded.
by Winchey
Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:47 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

Region 1 pointers outnumber setters or it is pretty close at least. Probably has a lot to do with the success of the Chasehill dogs and the Wild Apple dogs. They are tough to beat, they are good sized nice moving and big running dogs, tough to compete with a shorter fancy setter. Long Gone seems to...
by Winchey
Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:56 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??
Replies: 48
Views: 18805

Re: ??EP as grouse and woodcock dogs??

Region 1 pointers outnumber setters or it is pretty close at least. Probably has a lot to do with the success of the Chasehill dogs and the Wild Apple dogs. They are tough to beat, they are good sized nice moving and big running dogs, tough to compete with a shorter fancy setter. Long Gone seems to ...
by Winchey
Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:37 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: GSPs with EP bloodlines?
Replies: 215
Views: 75276

Re: GSPs with EP bloodlines?

Ya, so long as it is blackhawk :P
by Winchey
Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:00 am
Forum: Training
Topic: Advice needed
Replies: 21
Views: 5450

Re: Advice needed

Double Shot Banks wrote:
polmaise wrote:google on my pc , threw up hundreds! of your guys :roll: ..each with a program in mind.
Unless you mean an accual card trick, that's all I'm getting when i google "3 card trick"
Add "gundog" to your "3 card trick" query. Tons of hits.
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:02 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

He has a lab, I don't know that I would want to sit in a blind with a dog that couldn't.

Pointing dogs I think should be hunted from day 1.
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:40 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

Yup and they all just end up hunting a nice forward pattern at the perfect range.
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:09 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

Chukar, it depends on how many wild birds you can get a dog into, it shouldn't take long at all to break a dog on wild birds if you have the birds and the dog is ready. I would still prefer to make any mishaps, or any negative experiences on pigeons first rather than wild birds though. But the poin...
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:51 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

Elk I am not debating that. I am just saying that there are more things to do then break a dog. I have already said that if I just want him broke, or taught here, then it matters little. For some purposes of sending a dog to a trainer then it does matter. That said, I will probably never send a dog ...
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:33 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

Because he has probably done his fair share of hunting and has run and seen many good dogs run on wild birds and knows what they are supposed to do and can help them reach their potential. There is more to it than following around with a blank gun. My dogs are broke, if I let my brother follow them ...
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:44 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

Are you saying that if I had a dog on the major AA circuit that it would make no difference if I sent him to Manitoba for the summer with your daughter or Colvin Davis so long as he was broke?
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:06 am
Forum: Training
Topic: +R vs Pressure Training (Which do you use?)
Replies: 11
Views: 3633

Re: +R vs Pressure Training (Which do you use?)

Everyone uses a mix of all 4 quadrants whether they realize it or not.
by Winchey
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:03 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

I would sure be upset if I sent my dog 3500 miles to the praries and all they did was break him.
by Winchey
Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:07 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

It depends what I sent him there for. Like I said, if I just want him broke on pigeons and whoa broke or ff'd I don't really care. If I want him developed as a wild bird dog or wild bird trial dog I want him out there running it on wild birds and I don't know how someone who has never hunted or run ...
by Winchey
Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:53 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

Taking a dog for a run in the bush with a blank gun does not constitute hunting. Any dog trainer can do that and still not call themselves a "hunter". It is one in the same to me. Only difference is I carry a longer gun that actually shoots and get a little more excited and screw up the enforcement...
by Winchey
Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:04 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Trainer and not a hunter?
Replies: 83
Views: 26027

Re: Trainer and not a hunter?

I am not so sure about that. 95% of my training is hunting with a blank gun. You couldn't really finish a wild bird dog without running it and hinting wild birds IMO. There are all sorts of things a non hunting trainer can train a hunting dog to do though.

As for judging I agree 100%
by Winchey
Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:42 am
Forum: Health and Nutrition
Topic: Traditional Grain-Based Foods vs. Grain-Free Foods - Vote
Replies: 37
Views: 10316

Re: Traditional Grain-Based Foods vs. Grain-Free Foods - Vote

I have fed a lot of the high fat high protein high calorie feeds. I fed canaidae ALS which I believe is grain free, Evo I think is grain free as well. Dogs did fine, but I have fed feeds with grain that were easier on the wallet the dogs did better on then any grain free feed I have fed. I think mos...
by Winchey
Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Pigeon Help
Replies: 3
Views: 1943

Re: Pigeon Help

Depending on if you have a bunch of junk and scrap lieing around you could pentially build a coop for free, 4x4x4 wooden box on legs and a hardware cloth bottom and aviary is all you need. Some perches as well I guess, which can be made from scraps. Best way would be to buy some unflown homers. Half...
by Winchey
Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:39 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: agressive baby pigeon
Replies: 7
Views: 3259

Re: agressive baby pigeon

And what is this hate on for the clicker from a bunch of guys who don't use them, or understand how?

I have used a clicker for a few things and it can be effective.

I don't use a wonder lead, flank collar, whoa barrel, hardly use a whistle and don't go telling everyone who does that they are iduots?