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I searched the net and found that they ARE two different breeds, except in America. Well puppyduks, you better do your search again, because they are the same breed in every country in the world. If I sold a pup to someone in any country in the world they would be registered in that country as an E...

There we go again. Arguing for the sake of arguing. Picking on minutia to be disgruntled about. Re-interpreting to somehow make it seem right. Did anyone ever intimate that 40 min. to catch is a more positive sign than 10?? It is not a positive, it is simply not a negative. If it were my dog it woul...

Try these folks
http://www.brankosbeagles.com/

Ok, here's the deal. If a bunch of Spinone breeders/owners got together for a weekend with a couple of dozen trained dogs for a weekend of friendly competition are they going to pick the slowest dog as the winner? All Age is relative, and within every breed there are those dogs who perform above the...

phermes1 wrote: Sounds like you like hunting FOR the dog more than anything else.

Yeah, that's what I live for ... NOT!

How does the saying go? They just don't know that they don't know?

I agree but the last time I looked field trials were being judged. There is no competeing. The only reason they run two at a time is to get done. Thats why there are two judges, one for each dog. And it why if there is an odd number of dogs or 1 in heat they run them seperately. WHaaatttt!!?????

phermes1, Typically when it comes to FT puppy/derby, many that I know go by the rule that if you can catch them, you might NOT want to keep them. That's the advice I was given by a veteran trialer several years ago. Turned out to be good advice. Different strokes I guess. :wink: Sounds good to me. ...

Now there is a screwy list. Go OTHER!!!

To me, my dogs are a give and get type affair. I give them all I can, and they return tenfold to me. On the other hand, I've often wondered,, If I treated them like livestock, (as some do) and strictly taught them to obey... Would I be teaching resentment as well? Now there is a post I don't unders...

Hey, if things such as you describe are anything more than once in a blue moon incidences, the quality of competition would be pretty poor. The competition can only be as good as the folks judging. As to the incident you describe with the dead bird - are you saying that there were two judges in coll...

You forgot the CKC.

I'm really enjoying this thread. Just proves that, like all dogs are not created equal, all judges are also not created equal. What do you guys think about marking? Lets say you have 2 otherwise identical performances, one dog marks his birds, the other stands like a statue, maintaining his intensi...

no one ever won a broke dog stake with no finds over a decent performance of a dog with a find. Been there done that also! Saw a dog who found a DEAD bird win Open Gun Dog back in Feb. It was the ONLY bird the dog found. Dog also broke at the shot on the callback. Must be some pretty poor competiti...

You see Pam, they are not "all about run", but they are also not bird finding competitions at all costs. You can't win if you can't find a bird - and don't bring up the technicality of the rule in AF because no one ever won a broke dog stake with no finds over a decent performance of a dog with a fi...

phermes1, I know this is a technicality, but it is rather germane to the understanding of judgement practice. It is not a case of the dog being penalized for too many finds, but rather that having too many finds prevented your dog from properly showing other facets of a well rounded performance, nam...

Ah, the good old "too many finds" argument. I have been on the losing side of the "too many finds" judgement a few times, AND NEVER ONCE DID I FEEL THE LEAST BIT SLIGHTED BY THE PLACEMENTS GIVEN! It is a fact that there are a great many things that go into a perfect performance and the dog that wins...

Don't know if these folks are still running dogs, but I have been impressed in the past with some of the accomplishments they have had.

Pat & Loyd Carney
Locar Brittanys, ph: (978) 774-8149

TimSchoenborn wrote:Google the guy

So.... did anyone else google Tim Schoenborn?

Dave Quindt wrote: But when you have a 24/14 food that produces 4168 kcal/kg and a 30/20 food that produces 4406 kcal/kg you have to wonder how a food can have less fat and less protein but produce more energy?

Huh? 4406 is bigger than 4168.

Anyway, ezzy answered the question quite nicely.

Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that not all feeds have the same number of cups in a kilogram either. Digestibility is important. You cannot tell digestibility from kcal/cup alone. If the manufacturers would publish kcal/kg they would be giving useful information but their mar...

You cannot make a direct comparison to the listed percentages and the kcal/cup then draw a conclusion on digestibility. The percentages are weight based and the kcal are volumetric based. kcal/cup has more to do with the density of the kibble than anything else. We buy by the lb and feed by the cup ...

If you start playing tug o war with birds then it could be a problem in the field. While I have not played tug with all my dogs, I have with a few and they certainly never had an issue with giving me a bird. If anything it may help by teaching the dog to release to you on command when you end the ga...

Any normal Britt puppy at 3 months old will look thin and lanky. They are gaining height and are all legs. Rather than giving her more time to eat, give her less. She won't starve herself. She may be teething and having trouble chewing the food. This is a short term problem, and again, she won't sta...

The first working Irish Setter I encountered was a show bred dog that the fellow used for duck hunting. That dog just absolutely loved to retrieve from the brackish marsh. I wouldn't write the Llewellyn off too easily.

Feeding Euk Pink bag helps to get a dog revved up. Almost seemed like a caffeine high.

I am looking for a calm, obedient, easy to train, dog. I do not want a hyper dog. An angel in the house and demon in the field type dog. Sounds like my dogs, problem is they are American bred Brittanys. Funny thing eh? BTW I like attached dogs that follow me everywhere and aren't always trying to r...

Here's my experience with Purina Pro Plan FWIW, I tried using it on three different occasions and each time saw the same results. When feeding it to my dogs they had constantly runny stools, several of them developed hot spots and constant itching, one was so extreme that he had to be put on steroi...

From what I have looked at, Purina Pro Plan Performance is the only feed in the Pro Plan Line that uses this "High Quality form of Protein". I'd naturally assume that the entire line of purina pro plan would be deserving of the same "High Quality Protein"... :wink: And if you will note I tried thre...

Puppy foods have a greater mineral content, especially calcium levels. I always put nursing bitches on puppy food. In most quality brands I have dealt with the puppy rations will also absorb water much more readily than the adult foods of the same brand.

Ridgeviewer, my use of the word garbage was not in context of the food, but the ingredient as well. We find the thought of rotting food repulsive. It is an instinctual response to help us survive. Our system cannot handle decomposed meat and eating it will likely cause violent illness possibly leadi...

For what it is worth, the Kirkland Brand of dog food at Costco is manufactured by Diamond, as is the line called Chicken Soup For the Dog Lover's Soul . The problem with that is twofold. The same bag will come from a different manufacturer when a better deal is made. What is in the bag represents t...

Now if this seems really nasty to you, your right, and you also understand my non willingness to feed this garbage to my dogs. And I'll bet that, given a choice, your dogs would eat that garbage over anything else you will offer everytime. I will also lay it on the line that they will never get sic...

I researched the dog foods by feeding it to my dogs, not reading the advertising on the bag. Pro Plan is a quality food that keeps dogs going in tough conditions. Few foods can do that. Granted, Diamond is not one of the foods that was included over the years in my feeding trials, but the concept ho...

Won't affect his hunting, and won't change any habits he has already developed.

I would vote for goofy dog. Who knows what that piece of dirt smells like.

I was told it is very persistent in the environment - 6 mos. or more.

If I am looking for long tail feathers I will just go out to my bird pen. Longest I counted this year was 28 bars on a 20 week old bird.

The only way you can tell is if the folks raising the birds used blinders. They are attached through the nostrils on the top of the beak and when are removed leave a large hole directly through the nostrils. If the hole is present they are definitely pen raised, if it is not then they are possibly w...

On the last day of Sharptail season I had the brother to your pup out. We went to a field where a week earlier he had pointed 3 coveys of Huns, of which we shot 4 birds. Unfortunately this evening there were no birds there, but that didn't faze him. In the paling light of the sunset I watched as he ...

pain reliever and rest.

The sxs carries easier broken open.

Water doesn't work on every dog. Lemon has not failed on those dogs that water didn't cure.

I have known a couple of fellows who only wanted one bird with the dog they were running. In general, if you have a quality stake, it will be pretty darn tough to win with only one bird in a 1/2 hour stake.

It works.

I wish mine could see that many birds.

Do a search for Trieven or Jazztime.

I would be hard pressed to think that the physical size of your lab will be any factor whatsoever. A little sensitive are we? 45 lbs is a little small for hard core retrieving. If that is not the goal then there are no worries as to the size of the dog. I picked up on 45 lbs because I have seen Lab...

If you want a dog that can retrieve 10+ lb geese all morning from water for a group of 4 to 6 guns then a 45 lb. dog is not going to be the best choice. If your needs are less than that then I would be hard pressed to think that the physical size of your lab will be any factor whatsoever.

If you want a dog within 40 yards I doubt that a Hickox setter would be anything you want. Maybe a Lab.

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