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Ms. Cage

I take it you have had all those dogs OFA'd in 35 yrs. I did a check on ofa's website. Not 1 miller dog has a OFA number and only 15 elhew. Seems odd with 2 of the 1 time top pointer breeders.

Ms. Cage

birddog1968 wrote:More line breeding in labs than one might guess...but consider or name a clean line of labs comparable to say English pointers

I've seen more bad bites in pointer then any other breed we've dealt with. lines of pointers that produce cancer. how many pointers have hip clearance?

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That's mighty nice of Gary. The price is high because people will pay it, even if they are low probability breedi Most of the so called low probability well titled outcross breedings will make a fine hunting dog. Question is will the litter produce FC's. MH's.. IMO that is what breeders want Same wi...

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Doc E wrote:Because Labs are waaaay better dogs (and much more versatile) than GSPs.

Only in your night mares.

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The other honest question is why would those pups demand so much more than a quality GSP litter? Because folks will pay the price. The market is flooded with 90% outcross x outcross breedings. I got my GSP actually the second one from Westwind Arguably one of the best NAVDHA producing breeders out ...

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Annie is looking good. We have ^Tug pointing ,retrieving , and he's a muskrat in the water. Tug goes swimming just because the water is there.

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RichK wrote:Is this it? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pack-HQRP-Bat ... 51b24c3f3f

Those are for the receiver. Parts for the G 2 are no longer made.

Ms. Cage

Gibby is looking nice ...

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I'm looking for a battery for a G2 pro 100 transmitter ( hand unit) . I've checked with Tri Tronics , Collar Clinic , Eisenhut dog supplies no luck . Any ideas where I can get a battery?

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Nell, We've training for a couple of weeks. Got a NA test coming up on June 7 or 8 with Kate. A few more photos for you. Cody a very nice 2 yr. old. Cody is developed into a nice ruffed grouse dog, strong water and ready to run U T. 120 (769x800).jpg Tug doing his thing. 083 (800x600).jpg Tug on poi...

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DenverHound wrote:If Tug is 3 mos it looks like he will be a BIG boy.

Tug looks big in the photo, but just a average sized little guy.

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Cooper

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Ema

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Cody

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Kate

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Tug 3 months

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Tug 3 months

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Kate 4 months

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Kate 13 months

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Brazosvalleyvizslas wrote:On a side note, I wouldn't use a breeder who doesn't do Progesterone tests and has no access to ultrasound. Other breedings could be missed while your in the dark "hoping" that the bitch is pregnant and how many are coming.[/quote quote="Del Lolo"]No : Progesterone --- Ult...

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Might be because of the late spring. I do know the St Croix NAVMDA chapter has a large number of entries, The NAVHDA test in Virginia in Aug is full. Our group just bought 500 quail same price as last year.

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IMO they are only affective as the trainer. We like teaching stop to flush first. This way if the dog doesn't have natural backing instinct the bird is put in the air and hopefully the dog will start to relate a bird to the silhouette. Lots of ways to skin this cat...

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We've been thinking of picking a couple of Higgins bird releasers. Any pros and cons? We've used Dogtra for years and have been happy with how the Dogtra functions.

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Here is Pipelines Coca Cola Cowboy pedigree. http://www.konigkennels.com/apps/module ... edid=40478 . Dave has A great database .

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What you think is on this boys mind

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Ms. Cage

We allow the pups to play with the older dogs. Your pups been playing with older dog since 4 weeks. We discourage growling, snarling and yapping. Nate, here's a picture of tug on his first point today.

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Time to teach stop to flush using a check cord. Most everything we do is taught first then over laid with the e-collar. By teaching the STF the dog relates that a bird in the air they must stand. I find it easier to teach STF before steading the dog. the steadiness seems to fall in place.

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Glad to see the two of you made it home safe. I hope you enjoy Gibby !!!

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+1 about Brents dogs. We have trained with a Frenchie (Cooper)from NA through his VC and is a outstanding Britt. There are a couple of Frenchie VC's in the Penn. Area.

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Howie kicks himself all the time for selling his Parker reproduction 28 ga. He bought one at whole sale when the reproduction first came out , $1,600.00. Even at todays price he'd like another.

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Ms. Cage wrote:
RichK wrote:This has been the coldest and snowiest winter I can remember in the past ten years or more.
Your not the lone ranger with the cold and snow . we're expecting 6" to 12" tomorrow and Tues. Congrats on the prize 1

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RichK wrote:This has been the coldest and snowiest winter I can remember in the past ten years or more.

Your not the ranger with the cold and snow . we're expecting 6" to 12" tomorrow and Tues. Congrats on the prize 1

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CJ , All can say is the vet who does our hips and tails did the treatment for this kennel. Words from his mouth ..... I think the folks raised Shelties. This could of been from yrs. past or present. There were buffalo put down in either Montana or Dakotas not that long ago. Since this vet says Bruce...

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I'm glad we test both sire and dam every breeding no matter if we breed in house or outside dogs.. I'm wondering now if that's why the last 5 or 6 test we've done have been shipped out from the Marshfield Wi. lab to Corrnel U. Yet this vet only trusts the lab in kannas. We did have brucellosis sweep...

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Thanks for the the info. back up a few posts you stated you had no need the duck search. I don't know if that is a shackled duck... If have watched NAVHDA tests you would know it's a live duck with some flight feathers pulled...

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CJ Why do you seem to know so much about NAVHDA and the dogs but have never been a member or run any NAVHDA test ? Trying to educate myself. Most of my info comes from my husband , I'm learning....

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But when you say you have bred for fifty years to get the dogs you like you are biased. Cj Never said Howie has bred dogs for fifty yrs. I said he has owned and trained gsps for fifty years. Because I stated this doesn't make me bias. I stated what blood he had in the past and what he enjoys today....

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Another kennel you might want to look at is Grouse Points . [url][http://www.grousepointkennels.com [url] Carey has very simular blood to ours.

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Maybe I will buy one of each and I will be able to see the differences between them, that's about the only way one would know what he likes, that would be pretty fun! I have had 3 female wirehairs in the past and I loved them, they were all just pups I got in town from guys that hunted, and they we...

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I'm curious why when you look at navhda breeders majority of them seem to be along the german bloodlines? And field trial dogs are American bloodlines... Did I word that right? Yes, IMO you worded it right. I wasn't involved in NAVHDA in thier beginning. NAVHDA dogs seamed built off of German and A...

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He did say he was looking for a unbiased opinion. Jerry, i feel my opinion is unbiased. Howie owning and training GSP's for almost 50 years and having early dogs out of Tell, Boss Ranger , Moesguaards Dee Jackson , Flying Dutchman, Rusty etc. The NAVHDA bred dogs for Howie fit what he likes today ....

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Tim, Would the w/b be JJ X Briar ?

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lugmastro wrote:GSP's can be hit or miss with water. I have one that likes and have had two that refused to go in.

That's why it's best to lean toward NAVHDA breedings. Lots of emphasis put on water work.

Ms. Cage

No other pointing dog system outside of the German system demands both land and water.

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Years ago a friends Chessie jump in the river at spring break up. Swept under the ice and never seen again. My friend and young children stood on the bank , helpless and horrified.

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Folks in differant areas have differant needs. Myself, I need the retrieve. Minnesota is the land of 10,000 lakes. The county i live in has over a 1,000 lakes , tons of creeks and swamps. i can't tell how many time I've drop a grouse or woodcock across a creek , river , or in the lake.

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Look under his post bloodlines and conversations on the phone and e-mails. posted about 4 hours before this one.

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Sundby, We considered Bandit as sire of Cages last litter and would still breed to Bandit. My only concern is will he produce the type of water I would want. As a field dog hands down. I would look to a bitch bred to Bandit with strong water ethics since your looking for a field water dog. Know noth...

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I would have looked at the litter in Howard Lake Mn.... Several males available.

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birddog1968 wrote:We don't drive model T's anymore either.... For a reason.

Your right, some the tools have changed but basic foundations haven't....

Ms. Cage

IMO to many have forgotten conventional methods of yester year and relie on e-collar methods of today. i use the e methods as much as anybody but have not forgot the root methods.

Ms. Cage

So now point is gone because someone trains with a checkcord? And retrieve is gone because some decide to FF ? More I don't agree with. Use of a training tool does not indicate lack of a trait. Look your taking this out of content. I want a dog to show there natural ability to point before we use a...

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Even if the parents and litter mates show an extreme desire to retrieve? Even if the dogs parents and litter mates are extreme retrievers. If a dog has to be ff'd to get dog to retrieve that individual is lacking in those genetics. IMO no different then a pointer who has to be check corded to get t...

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There are retrievers who won't retrieve - does that mean it was bred out of them? IMO yes. dogs that have NO desire to retrieve , pick up game has the retrieve bred out or the genetics that should be passed on to him by parents . Before we go on most know the dogs nature is to chase the game, mouth...

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to say retrieves been bred out is an exaggeration Sure are pointers setters of various breds that retrieve well . there are also many who could care less about retrieving. The topic is retrieve to hand . the yearlier you start a dog on retrieve to hand and quick return the less you have to cleanup....

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