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claybuster_aa

...then again, that would also depend upon how you increased those cals. It's about structure and ingredients. You increase cals with gluten, that's no help. Get fish fat and pork fat in the ration as a means to raise cals (without increases in volume from gluten but rather decreases), that dog will...

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Plus if you wanna use the ludicrousity of the so called science of Atkins another case can be made of the difference, in humans when they go off the Atkins diet weight is not only gained back fast it is actually increased. I'm not trying to make connections between humans and dogs and weight loss. ...

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I agree with everything you said to a point. I almost killed two of mine by feeding raw hamburger as a treat . I'll skip the nasty details but they spent a week in the hospital getting transfusions . I still give raw bones, femers with marrow. But I keep them refrigerated and don't over do it. It's...

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I love my Silver Pigeon Sporting! I will eventually get some Briley ultra light tubes for my gun when I get some extra cash saved up. I was just in a real jam, I needed to pick a up a car for my wife for back and forth to work and around town. Found a '99 mustang convertible in decent shape for unde...

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Poor analogy regarding the Atkins Diet. You obviously haven't read the book or understand it, but have relied on inaccuracys you have been told or read. It is not a "no carbo" diet, although carbos are greatly restricted at first, and restricted less later. "Scientific evidence" may be an oxymoron....

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So a dog is losing weight on high performance food, but how do you know if the dog just simply isn't shedding unnecessary pounds? I don't think it is uncommon at all for a higher performance food to take off the unnecessary pounds. If you are unsatisfied with the appearance after the switch, go back...

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There is no such thing as good quality corn! Those are three words that should never go together Ever heard of lectins? How about leptins? http://www.dogtorj.net/id110.html Corn- The Toxic Grain (The primer) Years back I researched his credentials (dogtorj) and came up with nothing. Couldn't find h...

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I have a dog that is pushing 18. He had some pretty horrid breath during the years when the teeth were rotting away. The dog is a Yorkie, and my wife got him in '92. Stink can also be a matter of opinion. I'll tell you my dog smells fine, even behind the ears, but my wife will probably tell you diff...

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Actually, I thought it was a very good question. Why are carbs from potatoes better than carbs from grains? IMO they are not better and one has gained zero ground. Potato also acts like a fiber. A fiber swap from grains to something that acts just like the fiber has done nothing to improve the rati...

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head and related structures are NOT on the same "node" ( i assume you mean lymph node) as the genital area. if its immune related, it should respond to the steroid. i would go with the biopsy, let a pathologist tell you exactly what you are dealing with. hard to tell alot from pictures, even good o...

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What are you feeding? Nutrition can play a factor IMO. Weakened immune system with problems beginning to manifest coming to the surface. Switch around diets frequently? Are you feeding a lot of plant matter in ration which is sometimes difficult to avoid these day when you start comparing ingredient...

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Got the local paper today and the headline on page two reads: "Coyotes are digging up and eating carrots". Seems a few folks in and around town are having some problems. I shot one by the pear tree two nights ago - I think he was looking for a beefsteak. The coyotes around here go snorkeling for or...

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Follow the money. Think about it. Don’t you remember the “to-do” over what causes bloat? First it was genetics, then gluttony, then gulping air, now another nonsensical explanation advanced by a veterinary school – citric acid. That is how Industry protects itself. By preventing you from discovering...

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CherrystoneWeims wrote:Claybuster,
The research was done on pedigrees of dogs. When you see a great-grandfather, grandfather,father, and son bloat that should tell you something........

Have all been eating the same diet?

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slistoe wrote: The strong genetic link was certainly referenced in the Purdue study with a recommendation to remove all direct relatives from the breeding pool.

No scientific merit.

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:) I don't feed Orijen. Too expensive for no benefit in the feeding tests I did with my dogs. Now I can honestly make a recommendation to my customers who inquire about it. Some hard data to back up my opinion. But that really is funny - Orijen is all about marketing and Abady isn't. Arkat...all fa...

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And they cannot prove that what they are saying is right. In fact, as has been shown numerous times, there cannot be a logical argument made that it may be right given the current knowledge base. We are all entitled to our opinions. See, I feel the exact same way in regards to what you feed as you ...

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Yes, after innumerable paragraphs of supposition, outright falsehoods and fear mongering they hit you with the sales pitch. Outright falsehoods...sounds like they should be sued for spreading lies. I wonder why thay hasn't been done yet? Maybe because none can disprove what they say. You can claim ...

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I read that on wikipedia and was wondering when a bright bulb would bring it up. Did you check the reference on it? It is toxic to cold blooded animals and insects. Extrapolating that to dogs, when no toxic effects are known to any class of mammals despite extensive study, is useless. By the way, d...

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The best research? Saponin is similar in structure to snake venom - therefore it must be a toxin. Come on. Saponin From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Chemical structure of the saponin solanineSaponins are a class of chemical compounds, one of many secondary metabolite...

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..repeated and repeated again reasons that Abady is so superior has alienated far more people that you ever attracted. I think there is a lot of truth to that statement. People get turned off easily when it comes to that I think. I try not to suggest it to anyone to try it unless it seems like they...

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mcbosco wrote:who is Jack Abady,

That was his father.

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Abady is not practicing science, he is playing to and creating misconceptions. I think the Abady concept is spot on. If you're a bio-chemist, have a lab and start breaking it down to the molecule, and come up with a better scientific explanation, I'll listen. I think he's done more for helping anim...

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From the website: Mr. Abady explains part of the process of bloat formation as follows: water mixes with the saponins in the feed, the mixture is then agitated in the dog's stomach during exercise creating a sudsy foam. The foam envelops the feed, trapping the gasses that are normally produced by th...

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You folks don't get. It's about money. They don't want you to know what causes bloat. The industry profits higher on omnivore and ruminant nutrition rather than carnivore nutrition. Have you looked at some of the ingredients found in dog food today? Marigold flowers? Yucca? Garlic? Clay? Organic Sea...

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that is starch is converted into Dextrin, a usable source of protein for carnivores maybe i misunderstood this comment but Dextrin is not a protein it's a carbohydrate. Good catch. Calories are unit of energy derived from protein, fat and carbs. Starch converted to dextrin would be a carb source th...

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Must be just luck of the draw...you win some and you lose some.

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Corn of recent has lost that natural appeal due to the rise of GM Corn. White Rice right now is the best option in dog food when it comes to any fillers. :) Buy it now. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-08/25/content_8611098.htm http://www.gmo-compass.org/eng/grocery_shopping/crops/24.genetic...

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Clay, My male will do that too but he just doesn't have as much appetite as the female. They both eat the same feed and get the same exercise. I have had dogs that just don't need much or at least don't want much and those are the ones i have had to add oil to their feed to help get weight on them....

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Bloat is no mystery, I know what causes it...lol. They did a Purdue Study to spin you around in 50 different direction only to tell you they don't really know for sure. They don't want you to know the answer and somethings are best left a mystery. The best research I have seen comes from Robert Abad...

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Dogs like to feel full just like we do or any other animal. It doesn't make any sense to try and limit a dog to one cup. I have a dog that is only getting a little over a cup a day and she is starved all of the time but if you allow her she will get fat as a pig. ...Ezzy Ezzy, I free feed my dog. S...

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I did not say carbs and protein, I said starch and protein. I also never said "it doesn't work", but I have outlined, possible problems and shortcoming, with those diets. I have also shared the basics of the science behind it, and it is really basic. Thriving is 100% subjective, and adds no real me...

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Greg Jennings wrote: But Jersey? I was TDY to Valley Forge/King of Prussia for about a year. I thought I was going to die from citification if the traffic on the SureKill Expressway didn't get me first.

My old neck of the woods, born and raised. West Norriton Township.

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Ok so figure that box either 35 or 40 lbs is $70, then you spend about 75 cents a day, which is quite similar to the high performance kibbles. and you have much less to clean-up $65 +tax. But you also have to consider this as well Sal, food intake fluctuates as one would expect in the dogs diet. Ho...

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slistoe wrote:I know this from side by side feeding tests with Orijen on my dogs.

I had noticed Orijen is including lawn weeds into their mix like Dandelions. How's that working out?

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They need a combination to provide all of the nutrition that is needed for good health, That is why Abady and the other high priced speciality dog foods advertise they add vegetable matter to their food. It always seems funny to me that some people think that carrots, apples, greenbeans are good bu...

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CT Wal-Marts (Supercenters) still carry guns, the smaller Wal-Marts phased them out. They sell ammo, and plenty of shotshell hulls, but the pistol/rifle ammo has been sparse ever since Obama got sworn-in. Not to get politcal or anything, just an observation. It's not just Wal-Mart. It's everywhere....

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I have a question about protein. I had read something interesting on the Orijen website, and the other Acana. When you look at the calories under the Adult Feed, it mentions 25% of the calorie distribution comes from fruits and vegetable? I had also noticed, Acana mentions in their ingredients and a...

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CT Wal-Marts (Supercenters) still carry guns, the smaller Wal-Marts phased them out. They sell ammo, and plenty of shotshell hulls, but the pistol/rifle ammo has been sparse ever since Obama got sworn-in. Not to get politcal or anything, just an observation.

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I remember seeing a food at Wal-Mart, I think it was called Maximum Nutrition? Is that the same you think as the Members Mark Exceed, just different in name? I think if you have an Agway or Tractor Supply in your area you should find something comparable.

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mcbosco wrote:Ok so figure that box either 35 or 40 lbs is $70, then you spend about 75 cents a day, which is quite similar to the high performance kibbles.

and you have much less to clean-up

$65 +tax.

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clay, you feed your Setter 1 cup of Abady? I feel that is accurate. My scoop holds about 2 cups, maybe just a bit more and it usually last about 2-3 days in the bowls (I am a free-feeder). A box of "Classic" 40-lbs last me 3 months and a box of "Basic", a bit stronger in a 35-lb box also last 3 mon...

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I suppose you think I am just making up numbers? Or you just didn't want to read what I wrote? The class of products you mentioned will cost me 2.5 to 3 times as much to feed as what I am currently feeding. I know this from side by side feeding tests with Orijen on my dogs. What I currently feed is...

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At the first introduction, he's excited and wants to play/flirt, but always spends more time licking the vulva than attempting to mount. You know the old saying, if you can't cut the mustard...you can always lick the jar. lol. In any event, try pumping some meat and fat proteins into that boy when ...

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Can ANYONE help me with an ongoing problem I have with my current stud? I think he just has a low sex drive, as when it's time to breed, it takes him 30 minutes to never to tie with a female. At the first introduction, he's excited and wants to play/flirt, but always spends more time licking the vu...

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"20lbs of chicken in a 30lb bag" It doesn't tell us the whole story and is just a glimmer of insight into their product, but is more info than on any other bag of food I've seen before. That should probably be illegal and I wouldn't be surprised if they have to change that shortly. However from a m...

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Claybuster, does your dog have an issue with Beet Pulp? I choose not to feed it any longer. I did for about 10 years. You know all those warnings about feeding your dogs before and after hunting. You have waiting periods of no feeding, I have read some say up to 24 hrs (before). The reason I mentio...

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My thoughts, maybe a misprint and that is suppose to be 20% not 20 lbs? In any event, it doesn’t look all that bad. At least they use the by-products and not afraid of being black listed by the WDJ...right? BEET PULP is what I don't like. I know Ezzy will argue nothing wrong with beet pulp. All I kn...

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There is a minority in this thread that believes the proper protein for a dog is animal-based. ... To me corn gluten is a man-made industrial waste product and has no place in dog food. When they find yet another product like it that is cheaper it will be in that bag of Purina and they will proclai...

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I mentioned reloading in the Wal Mart thread, and I was wondering if anyone else reloads shotshells? IF so what for? IE, hunting,Trap/sporting clays Etc. Does anyone have any good load recipees for particular purposes? I reload for skeet in 12, 20, and 28 gauge. I use Mec Grabbers, 762Rs. I purchas...

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