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Doc E

I think I forgot to ask :
What training program are you following ?

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Doc E

Double Shot Banks wrote: Yes he is, we have been using the collar for a few months now. When he is done FF should i reinforce and teach him to fetch on the collar not the pinch?

As I have mentioned before :
1. Teach (HOLD)
2. Enforce (ear pinch)
3. Reinforce (ecollar)

Just like Double Barrel said.

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Doc E

I can't remember -- Is your dog ecollar conditioned ?

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Doc E

He is not ff to me and i would start over, i have only ff two dogs so i am no expert but it sounds to me like some things may have been rushed. That's certainly part of it -- but not only did the dog ignore the FETCH command, but also the HERE command as well as the DROP (give) command. Seems to be...

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1. I had the bird in my pocket and im sure he smelled it. I tried to do a normal retrieve with the bumper like normal before the bird, and he didnt want to retrieve it. He ran to it then started sniffing the ground looking for the bird. 2. After this i tried the bird (he was on a check cord) he got...

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PEOPLE USE TO SAY A DOG THAT LIES LIKE THAT HAS GOOD HIPS BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY REAL CONNECTION. Ezzy You certainly might be correct -- I don't know, but that is the position that hips are put in for OFA or PENN hip x-rays, because it does distract the balls in the sockets. I would think t...

Doc E

A well trained dog can be "just a hunting dog" ... or "just a competitive" dog. A Smart Work dog can be top notch at either or both. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/DocandCasey/Tucker12-16-12.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/DocandCasey/TuckerRibbons-2011-1_zps5f6a77ef.jpg .

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..... I have not ben following any program but I know I need to, can you please give me some links to some reputable training programs. Go back and look at the 4th post (by Evan G). IMO, there is no program better than the "Smartwork" series of books and DVDs available. PLUS, you have Evan actually...

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I don't know much about other breeds, but the majority of Labs (flushing labs) don't hunt or compete in anything except for space on the couch. The majority of Pointing Labs are at least hunted, whether they are run in Hunt Tests or Trials or not. For sure, the majority of all Labs are not run in an...

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Doc you really need to quit the drinking. It clouds your judgement. (I hope you have such an excuse). The posts you made are not there - they exist only because someone else has quoted them in their posts. If you did not remove the originals because of sober second thought, then it would seem the m...

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Double Shot Banks wrote: What i meant is it looks like maybe they were removed?

Incorrect again --- They are all still there.
If they weren't still up, how could i quote them ?
Did you "accidentally" put me on "IGNORE" ?

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Doc E

Double Shot Banks wrote:
Doc E wrote:
Exactly which post was it that i told you that you "know nothing" --- I can't seem to find it..
I cant seem to find it either, or any of your posts...maybe im missing something
cant find any of these,
Isaac and Banks

If it ain't true, then don't say it fella. :roll:

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Doc E

I really need to see a pic of a moose in a tree.

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Doc E

Operant conditioning (treat training) is 100% fine for a puppy. You just have to wean off of them as training continues. Are you following any particular training program or just 'winging it' on your own :?: Your dog is ignoring the HERE command. Once excellent Obedience is in place, it will be time...

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I certainly don't know it all --- and never will, but I certainly know more than a 15 year old virgin trainer. . But, i have taught a dog to retrieve, and been through/am going through he last stages of the ff process. Ive been training my dog for 6 months now, and been all around other trainers an...

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There are quite a few HRC Hunt Tests coming up in the Pac NW. Snohomish WA June 1 - 2 Portland OR June 22 - 23 Missoula MT July 6 - 7 Butte MT July 27 - 28 and again the next weekend August 3 - 4 There will be another in Carnation WA sometime in August and one in Chewelah WA in September. All of the...

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Doc's always right, what was i thinking Isaac and Banks Get it ? --- Yup, you got it from the REAL Master. Doc E wrote: "HERE" is the command that is being broken by the dog. Make sure HERE and excellent obedience are in place before FF. Evan G wrote : .That is exactly correct. I certainly don't kn...

Doc E

I asked a similar before. The answer that I received was that I had an obedience issue with "Here/Come". The dog doesn't think he ALWAYS has to bring you whatever he has. I would put the dog back on a check cord and work with your retrieving that way. When the dog gets to the bumper, bring him/her ...

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Neil wrote:Work on "here" until he has it 100%. Then go back to the wing, or better the whole bird.

He must learn to promptly come to you every time called.

That's the perfect answer right there.

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Doc E

ruffbritt4 wrote:Thanks for your help guys, i am training my first bird dog so i want to make sure i do it right

Ecollar = Not yet
1. Teach
2. Enforce
3. Reinforce (ecollar)
4. Follow a proven training program

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Doc E

Breed of dog ?
Age of dog ?
Training program being followed ?

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Doc E

Follow a modern -- sequential training program.
I like the Smartwork series of books and DVDs the best.

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Doc E

What does your training program say about it ? I have read my training program. But as a young kid, learning, and training my first dog i would like multiple opinions. Isaac and Banks As I have mentioned a few times -------------- Pick a program and follow it............ page by page and chape\ter ...

Doc E

YES !

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Doc E

Can anyone provide peer reviewed papers that offer quantitative comparisons of canine immune systems between healthy animals receiving these supplements and those which do not? I'm in the process of getting links to articles that people need to see, but my main source (a service that I pay for) is ...

Doc E

What does your training program say about it ?

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Doc E

Some of each.

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Doc E

It's been awhile since I first put this up, but it's an amazing site with motion studies of Normal gait, Hip Dysplasia gait and Torn CCL gait.

Click here : http://accad.osu.edu/~hcaprett/COTA_741 ... 90504.html

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Doc E

RoostersMom wrote:IMO, the momentary buttons are useless. Even if you use them, you can press the continuous and let go, it makes it a momentary stimulation.

You can press and release a button in 0.08 seconds :roll:

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Doc E

ACooper wrote:I do not know what your budget is but I bought the pro 500 so I could have the adjustment on both.

For sure -- The Pro500 EXP is the finest out there.

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Doc E

If the dog is across the room yes it is much easier to click the button than rush across the room and put a treat in the dogs mouth, unless you are faster than sound. I'm just like Superman --- Faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a singl...

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Doc, The clicker, or in my case finger snap, is immediate and blends into the reward as you are digging the treat out of your pocket. Digging a clicker out of your pocket is quicker than digging a treat out of your pocket ? IMO, whichever you use should have already been dug out of your pocket. It ...

Doc E

Chicken dinner might have been nice for Mother's day

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Doc E

Following is a line from a Lab breeder's website in MN --- This is 'spelled out' and fully explained in the contract as well. "Please note: prices listed are gundog prices, limited AKC registration is included at this price. Please call to discuss possible full registration and price with breeding r...

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The guy has a grand total of 57 posts beginning in January that kicks off with him asking about getting his first gun dog. What makes you think every person who is new is following a program? Further, what makes you believe your question is important enough to repeat in bold? FWIW, Joe When someone...

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With Treat Operant Conditioning, I fail to see the reason for a clicker.

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Doc E

Nice lookin' pup (considering that it's not a Lab

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Doc E

This should have been told to you right up front. As 'cjhills' said, some breeders will sell on a "Limited Registration" until certain terms and obligations have been met by the new owner. Some will sell on limited registration and for an additional fee will make it full registration in order to ha...

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your last statement just says you don't read much. Sometimes as we get older we think we know it all and stop learning. It has always bothered me that we spend so much time finding the perfect feed and then decide we need to supplement it. And all we are doing is making someone rich that has sold p...

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shags wrote: I'd like a link to the 70% thing LOL

I'll do so as soon as I have time (within a couple days or so).

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Doc E

The dog can only support so many bacteria and it produces as many as needed. When you start providing for them it is just like putting a person on welfare, they no longer produce for themselves and it is just a matter of time till they will shut down and then you are in trouble and all for no reaso...

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MonsterDad wrote:A recent study of 25 probiotic products concluded that only 2 had any viable strains but there was no evidence they would survive once fed.

Link to the study ?

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Doc E

70% of a dog's immune system is in the gut = = the home of beneficial bacteria (probiotics). IMO, having an abundance of beneficial bacteria is a PLUS.. Where'd you get that information? From a product commercial? The immune system is comprised of thymus, bone marrow, spleen, and lymph nodes. Probi...

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Doc E wrote:Rich K

What training program are you following ?

I ask again the above

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Rich K

What training program are you following ?

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Doc E

Double Shot Banks wrote:use their tongue as a spoon?

Actually, the greatest amount of water is taken in from the UNDERSIDE of the tongue.

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Doc E

brad27 wrote:
Doc E wrote:The correct answer is that they can continue breathing while drinking or eating.
Congrats to those that got it right and thanks for the other answers too -- pretty fun..
They "can" but don't have to, right?

Correct............ Unless they run out of oxygen

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Doc E

Dogs have improved --- Training has improved.
Genetically, the dogs of yesteryear aren't as good, but with modern training methods, they could be a lot better than they were back in the day.

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slistoe wrote: There is no right/wrong sequencing.

I agree -- There is no value in learning to add and subtract and multiply and divide before learning algebra. :roll:

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Doc E

When you have the dog's Thyroid tested, make sure they do a "full thyroid panel" and not just T4.

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