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Doc E

The Flowchart is different for diferent breeds (uses) of our dogs. Pointers/Setters, Rerievers, Pointing Retrievers etc.
I'd be happy to post the Flowchart for Retrievers if anybody wants to see it, just say so.

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Doc E

The correct answer is that they can continue breathing while drinking or eating.
Congrats to those that got it right and thanks for the other answers too -- pretty fun..

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Doc E

I'll post the answer this evening.

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Doc E

When drinkng or eating, dogs can do something that humans can't do.
What is it ?

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Doc E

Double Shot Banks wrote:I did it to my lab pup at about 6 months give or take.
Some people like to teach it all, then come back and re-teach with an e-collar.
I think the ecollar is a tool to help with teaching.
Isaac and Banks

Teach
Enforce
Reinforce

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Doc E

Check thyroid -- use Vetericyn in the meantime.

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Doc E

Deuce wrote: Doc E is going to see this and say 4 months, others are going to say they don't use it until 1 yr old.

Wrong my friend.
My QUESTION is "What breed of dog" ? ?

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Doc E

No such thing as a "timeline".
Flowchart = YES
Timeline = NO

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Doc E

. When I ran my ESS in UKC HRC tests he was admitted, but was hardly welcomed with open arms. Many of the HRC members seem unfortunately rather clickish. Many of the retriever guys could barely handle it when any "odd breed" entered a test. Funny thing is, that the spaniels often made their labs lo...

Doc E

Date: April 2013 To: Clubs Licensed to Hold Spaniel Hunting Tests Subject: Labrador and Golden Retrievers Are Eligible to Participate in Spaniel Hunting Tests The AKC Board has approved Labrador Retrievers and the Golden Retrievers to be eligible to participate in the Spaniel Hunting Test Program ef...

Doc E

If it's not gone, what is the link ?

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Doc E

On the day that the AKC and LRC may have put the nail in the coffin of the debate the thread is gone? What happened? It isn't gone but I locked it as we didn't need any more of the foolishness that the topic had degenerated into and it already was starting to happen. Ezzy It might be my 'old man ey...

Doc E

Double Shot Banks wrote:I trust my trainers advice 100%,
Isaac and Banks

Then go ahead and trust your 'pro' and give your dog a bone..........
When he breaks a molar, don't come here asking why it happened.

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Doc E

I certainly wouldn't use a beef knuckle bone. I've seen too many dogs break a molar chewing on them.
How about a Kong with some peanut butter or some "treats" inside of it.

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Doc E

A tired dog is a good dog.Also something to chew on might be warranted.

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Doc E

Doc ,Tex weighs in at 21kilos or 46pounds (70 pounds/31kilos) so i reckon 2x level teaspoons would be okay & safe. interesting to give it the night before,seems to correlate with what i've read so far re distribution in the body. ..........tasi Sounds about right. Giving it the night before (and ri...

Doc E

Purina One has soy in it's ingredients ?

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Doc E

Doc E "The soy proteins in most commercial pet foods have digestibility values comparable, or superior to, protein from animal sources.1, 2 The apparent digestibility of protein from soy sources in diets of dogs has been variously reported as 71% to 90%.3, 4, 5, 6 Three isocaloric, isonitrogenous d...

Doc E

thanks everyone for your input, it's been most helpful. Doc E , good point about the Soy & sugar spike, we do have a Home Brew shop here so i will visit them re the Maltodextrin.....any idea on dosage & when ? ...........tasi For a 70 lb dog, give 1 level or slightly heaping Tablespoon ---- the nig...

Doc E

TYPICALLY, the "protein bars" for humans use Soy as one of the major sources of protein. Dogs don't utilize soy protein. As others have mentioned, they are usually loaded with simple sugars (setts the dog up for a big blood sugar spike followd by hypoglycemia). Maltodextrin is available from Home Br...

Doc E

ome of you may have heard (or read) that one of the dogs run by Bill Autrey passed away at the Grand from Gastric Torsion (twisted gut). A real heartbreaker for sure. Bill almost never posts on the net, but here is what he posted on Facebook : "The 2nd day here at the Grand was a real heart breaker ...

Doc E

It's a dominance issue --- it's not sexual.
The dog doesn't realize where it is in the 'pack order' (should be the Omega).

Have you heard of the "Alpha Roll" ?

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Doc E

nikegundog wrote:
slistoe wrote: Wolters pioneered nothing. Wehle is a man of some note, but not a dog training pioneer. But you did get one out of three.
Wolters was one of the pioneers in the creation of retriever hunt tests.

Very true.

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Doc E

thCalihunt24

What training program are you following ?

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Doc E

DoubleBarrel GunDogs wrote:Whoadog,

I agree with your post Guys like Wolters, Wehle and Delmar Smith were dog training pioneers all with solid foundations.

Nate

Incorrect.
Wolters was not a dog trainer -- he was a writer.
Others trained him and his dog and he wrote about it...... And took credit for the training.

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Doc E

1. IMO, FF is unpleasant. For you.. for the dog. 2. though you want to get it over with as soon as possible since it is not a positive or pleasant experience for you or the dog. but it is a draining type of training for the handler (at least it was for me). 3. The dog wants to quit on you - 4. you ...

Doc E

whoadog wrote:Those of you who have read Evan's book, does he use the wing on a flyrod approach like Wolter's?

No.

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Doc E

so i think that ill switch to smartwork. i havent really done much witht my dog from the wolters, just the basics. in the smartwork program i see that there is a few "puppy" sections. since my dog is starting late should i still work my dog through those sections just as if she were still a pup or ...

Doc E

See a Vet Orthopedist

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Doc E

I have a collar so if I can time it right i'll give him a nick, but punishment, if I catch him up, do I just do the stern No and pin him to the ground by the neck thing. The dog shouldn't associate you (as with a command) with the surfing. The dog needs to think that it was the surfing that caused ...

Doc E

Story at-a-glance The link : http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/04/10/early-spaying.aspx?e_cid=20130410_PetsNL_art_1&utm_source=petnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20130410 Spaying female dogs at a young age, especially before their first estrus cycle, ha...

Doc E

FF is a "one thing at a time" process.
NO birds, no retrieving ----- No nuthin' except FF & obedience until FF is finished.

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Doc E

Books by Wolters are VERY 'old school'. They were great back in the day that they were written, but they are very outdated. The "Smartwork series", by Evan Graham are top notch. You can buy the whole series or you can buy them ala carte. I think that Evan has a "springtime special' going on. Evan is...

Doc E

Cajun Casey wrote:Unless the dog chews one up and swallows pieces.

Mouse traps should ONLY be used while you can supervise.

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Doc E

Just a word of concern. There is no way I would advise you to FF with an e-collar . Very few professionals even do that and I sure wouldn't advise any one to try it without hands on help. You may have turned her off already and you don't want to do anymore damage right now. JMO Ezzy I agree. The do...

Doc E

Appropriately placed mouse traps work very well.
It'll hurt but not injure.

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Doc E

You start the same place you do with an 8 week old. You may progress slower or faster but you follow the exact same program and don't skip any of it. Ezzy Exactly ! ! Get on a good, modern, sequential training program (I like Smartwork) and start out just like you would with a puppy -- then go (slo...

Doc E

nanney1 wrote:DocE:
How many mg per day? How long to see results?

The one I use is 200 mg per capsule (65% boswellic acid).

To treat this, I'd use two capsules twice a day.
Results are fast.

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Doc E

JT's Gundogs wrote: Once we start heading for the truck and she sees the trailer or camp she is gone.

Is there some reason you didn't teach or are not using the "HERE" command ?

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Doc E

Cutting back the amount of food (protein and fat) also cuts back the necessary nutrients (vitamins, minerals etc)

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Doc E

Gotta love it ! !

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Doc E

it's my opinion that there is good reason for the lower protein / fat in "Large Breed Puppy Formulas".

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Doc E

Boswellia Serrata works very well.
No adverse effects or contraindications.

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Doc E

Double Shot Banks wrote:diamond puppy food. $30 for 40 lbs and its 30/20
works great. feed less dog looks great
Isaac and Banks

30/20 for a pup that's less than a year old :roll:

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Doc E

70% of a dog's immune system is in the gut = = the home of beneficial bacteria (probiotics).
IMO, having an abundance of beneficial bacteria is a PLUS.

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Doc E

Doc I have no problem treat training with pups but they need to know there are concquances for non compliance. Ezzy all the videos and seminars don't do any good if you just follow one person. I learned a long time ago the more information you gather the better your results will be. I was at a trai...

Doc E

Corn does not have nearly as many amino acids necessary for building lean muscle or re-building glycogen lost during stress as meat based protein does. Partially correct -- partially incorrect. You are correct about corn having fewer amino acids, but meat content will make up for that. You are inco...

Doc E

First, what the heck is an Iowa Safari Hunt ?

Keeping the dog hydrated is always a good idea, but equally as important is keeping them wetted down on the outside.

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Doc E

We've never had any problems just using Treat Training (operant conditioning) in puppies. I doubt if a clicker would have made things any better. In his very first Hunt Test, Tucker ( at 9 months of age ) got three Ribbons. One of which was in the UH (Upland Hunter) division, where a "Finished (Mast...

Doc E

Here is an article that says the only thing found in common in the Poison Jerky Treats were certain antibiotics.
Very interesting read : http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=26725

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