Gun Dog Forum

orbirdhunter

Well i would most likely run in amatuer classes of course, since i am definitely a amatuer :) . I am more trying to figure out what is looked for in a dog, i know that i really just need to go watch some from horse back so i can really see whats going on....How big do gun dog class dogs run??? How i...

orbirdhunter

I went and volunteered for my local club this last weekend at a HB field trial. I didn't get a real chance to go out on someones horse and watch braces. I was too busy bagging and prepping birds and trying to keep the event moving along. Anyways I was discussing the event with my wife a little bit. ...

orbirdhunter

Assuming that your talking about boyce corral tomorrow....if so its call backs. The birds don't want to fly at all. Didn't fly worth crap today.....so ground sluecing will probably be on the ticket. Break action gun..be safe...don't stress. Ill be gunning with you....

Michael and athena

orbirdhunter

That is a interesting question. I think that any well bred bird dog comes equiped with a good nose....I think the difference is how to they learn to use their nose.

orbirdhunter

I haven't romped the chukar hills yet, but there is lots of water, and lots of feed...And my initial findings of the quail and pheasants hatches point to it being great, possibly bordering on amazing....but won't really know till i really start hunting.... I would bet that above average is going to ...

orbirdhunter

The sweeping downhill shot is very tough to mimic....especially when you factor in just how stinking fast the little buggers are when they cup there wings and drop altitude... My buddies and i have found that one of two things seem to happen most often in our minds....one we rush the shot and shot o...

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It seems to follow that a little more humidity and a little more wind makes for better scenting conditions... Now to the other part. Relative Humidity is a percentage ratio based on temps......Warmer air has the Capacity to hold more moisture then colder air, but that doesn't mean that it automatica...

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KInda back to your original questions.......if your looking for 4 doors and gas mileage then realistically your talking duramax diesel which are very spendy.....I have a buddy that has a 1/2 ton 4 door dodge with hemi...don't remember the year now but early to mid 2000's i believe that gets mid to h...

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For me it used to be big game hunting,fly fishing and golf along with bird hunting.....Anymore for some reason the big game hunting just doesn't mean as much to me as it once did...So its pretty much fly fishing and bird hunting for me. I am a fly fishing NUT!!!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...

orbirdhunter

What kind of hunting do you do. Is it relatively flat, is it steep and rocky, is it dry, is it wet....Do you walk 1-2 miles a hunting day or 6.......

orbirdhunter

its seems pretty simple to me. Females are in much higher demand then males. Therefore breeders often times may have to sell males at a lower price then females to sell them....

orbirdhunter

1. Chukars
2. quail
3. Huns
4. pheasants
5. ducks

orbirdhunter

I have a patriot and love it.....very comfortable, plenty enough room, great, GREAT fuel mileage....Its actually far and away my favorite vehicle out of the ones we have owned over the years. We have the CVT auto tranny, its different but like it also.

orbirdhunter

By the best boots that you can afford that fit the habitat you hunt........ I live in Oregon on the dry side, i spend alot of time chasing chukars and huns as well as pheasants and quail, alot of steeper country, lots of rocks. Dry ground 90% of the time. And i do alot of walking on each hunt..... A...

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Hmmm.....Thats fairly vague......Off the top of my head probably at least 15 breeds that would fit the bill.....here is where i would start though.....in no particular order... German Wirehaired Pointer Deutsch Drahthaar Pudelpointer Wirehaired Pointing Griffon Springer Spaniel Water Spaniel Large a...

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I will vote towards having the pup tested for Urinary tract infections,crystals ect......It is extrememly common for female puppies to get infections....

orbirdhunter

Ummm....Don't leave the dog alone in the kitchen??? If you and the family leave the kitchen then the dog should leave the kitchen also. Keep your dog somewhere where you can keep track of it all the time then there is nothing to worry about, a dog bed beside the couch or whatever, simple answer is j...

orbirdhunter

Sounds like a very good first experience....congrats and good job. Great looking pup.

orbirdhunter

sweet deal

orbirdhunter

There are plenty of pointing breeds that are used as waterfowl dogs also.......But i think the most correct answer is to train for what you want, if you feel that having a sit or down command is needed for what you want to do with your dog then train for it. If it isn't needed then don't train for i...

orbirdhunter

I was just kinda wondering the same thing....How do you handle your dog while waterfowl hunting if you don't have some kind of sit or down command.....do you just use "whoa" and let them stand at attention all day???

orbirdhunter

Well, i would bet that you can find examples of great natural retreivers in all of the pointing breeds.....I've seen at least one or two really good ones in most breeds... But if you were to take say 50 dogs from each pointing breed, each from hunting kennels and judged on how well as a group how mu...

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If your stuck on your requirements the only thing that i can think of would be a grouse hunting breed EP with little field trial lines in it....some kind of Elhew breeding...... There are not very many pointing dogs in the world that are going to hunt at 50yds......unless your hunting thick cover. a...

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Well i have a GSP and have a deposit down on a little of Pudelpointers....so the next one is going to be a PP. After that i would have a gwp/drahthaar on the list......

orbirdhunter

Back to the original question so to speak......For me i am a hunter first and foremost. But i have other hobbies that i enjoy during the off season. The main one being fly fishing. Horse back field trails completely don't interest me for two big reasons. One, even though my wife is a avid horse ride...

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I think that a well started dog from a reputable breeder or trainer is a pretty good way to go for a 1st time bird dog owner. Or a finished dog...but finished dogs can very very expensive. In my mind a started dog should have some basic obedience down. Gun broke, usually steady to flush with birds s...

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Coming from more of a NAVDHA, VDD,VPP, versatile dog type background i find this interesting also. I think that at least 85-90% of the dogs i know or see that are NAVDHA wire hairs, DD's, pudelpointers etc have the parent kennel name in there registered/official name.

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I think that the first thing we need to remember is that we really don't know when the dog actually scents the bird, there could be a big difference between when they actually scent the bird and when they point the bird. how long the bird has been in one spot and if its a single bird or a covey of b...

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I'm pretty sure that i just read somewhere that American Gundog is returning this summer with new episodes on the sportsmans channel.....I liked that show also. I remember watching a desert quail hunting show that had some great footage of solid dog work.

orbirdhunter

Yeah, well try this on for size. The first 2 litters i put deposit on didn't take this winter.......I have deposit on #3 right now with a couple of others waiting in the wings if needed. I am now basically 2 months behind on when i was hoping to have a pup....

orbirdhunter

I have never done it personally, but i have seen enough pictures on local hunting board to know that you can. It actually usually develops into a huge heated arguement on the local board.....Having said that one of the local guys that probably kills as many chukars a year as anybody uses a golden re...

orbirdhunter

I would second on the 5-8yrs old.....

orbirdhunter

yep, i only looked at 09, that took long enough......

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orbirdhunter

I glanced through the 2009 NAVDHA stats last night, curiousity got the better of me. The people saying Sharpshooter are probably correct, thunderhead also way up there. Alot of people are talking about shooting starr but i have to say that unless the NAVDHA list is messed up somehow they had almost ...

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I would hazard a guess that Cedarwoods Pudelpointers would be near the top.

orbirdhunter

Hmmm.....I think hunting grouse and woodcock somewhere would be up there. Just because i have never done it....
After that on the prairies for sharptails with huns mixed in would be nice.

Any of you that have chukars on the list just need to get to oregon, i can help with that

orbirdhunter

Count me in

orbirdhunter

Look up the North American Pudelpointer Alliance, i think its pudelpointer.org. There are probably a couple of breeders semi near you. All of them put out great dogs, all have breeding standards that they have to meet. Bob Farris of Cedarwoods is one of the founding members...

orbirdhunter

Great looking pup...with that much fuzz that young it looks like your gonna have a wooly one......Great dogs....I can't wait to get my PP pup this coming spring.

orbirdhunter

Like others have said, get a NAVDHA GSP or a DK if your looking for a line with proven retrieving/waterfowl abilities....

orbirdhunter

Its finally upland hunting eve here in Oregon.....Targeting Pheasants and Quail tomorrow, or maybe Chukars if one of my fav spots isn't loaded with people when i drive by......

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I think the name is kinda cool, the donations to pheasants forever is always cool. But ballistically the difference between 1200fps and 1500fps is fairly pretty small once you start to get out to the 40yd line and past. And its dang expensive.

orbirdhunter

To me the real difference is in the breeding standard....I personally think that if you took all of the GWP breeders in the us and all of the DD breeders in the US then said, how good is the average dog for hunting....the DD is going to win hands down simply because all DD's are breed to be versatil...

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I know that my wife and i have decided to put off getting another dog this year due to being nervous about money....a couple K is alot more dough to us now then in the past.

orbirdhunter

nope....you have to actually hit the birds to get a limit....something that i don't always do so well on quail and chukar. enough to keep the dog happy is usually sufficient....

orbirdhunter

Hello all, figured i would introduce myself. My name is michael and i am a bird hunting and fly fishing addict. I reside in central oregon where i spend every spare second and every spare, and not so spare dime pursuing such passions.... I have a 6.5yr old GSP. She and i enjoy chasing quail,pheasant...

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