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by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:28 am
Forum: Forum News & Announcements
Topic: Just renewed gundogforum.com through 2020
Replies: 20
Views: 17078

Re: Just renewed gundogforum.com through 2020

Admin,
Good job sir!
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:16 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Lesser Breeds
Replies: 88
Views: 20697

Re: Lesser Breeds

Gentlemen, Maybe talking about a more rare breed might be a better way of communicating about dogs with a smaller gene pool. Certainly the connotations are completely different, and to my thinking a lot more acceptable. Because I train so many different pointing dog breeds in the Grouse woods, I do ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:53 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Lifestyle or hobby?? Opinions PLEASE!
Replies: 39
Views: 9382

Re: Lifestyle or hobby?? Opinions PLEASE!

mykp13,
George Ryman had a saying about his gun dogs, just take them to the woods they will eventually teach you how to hunt.
If you have the right dog a weekend hunter can still have a serious Grouse dog, given time.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:43 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Wild vs Pin Birds...Myth or Truth
Replies: 83
Views: 17632

Re: Wild vs Pin Birds...Myth or Truth

Gentlemen, You can accomplish a great deal with Pen raised birds using the correct techniques, Dave Hughes does this kind of training with his cover dogs all the time. However there is a great difference between a dog who just points birds and one that sets Grouse for his masters gunning. The Grouse...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:43 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Which shotgun brand do you use?
Replies: 180
Views: 222033

Re: Which shotgun brand do you use?

Grandpa Grouse carried an L.C. Smith double gun and so do I
RGD/Dave

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by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:37 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: What gauge do you shoot for upland birds?
Replies: 110
Views: 123783

Re: What gauge do you shoot for upland birds?

Grant, I am a Grouse hunter 90% of the time, and 80% of that time I use a 16 Gauge L.C. Smith double gun. However I do use everything from 12 to 28 Gauge, depending on what upland hunting I am doing and in what habitat I am hunting. Might want to consider 16 guage guns in your poll for truer results...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:25 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Best Bird Hunting East of Mississippi?
Replies: 7
Views: 8571

Re: Best Bird Hunting East of Mississippi?

J,
Because I like very challenging Grouse hunting to me the best Grouse hunting is right here in the Pa & WVa mountains,
spooky birds make great hunting and even better Grouse Dogs. I do like NH & VT very much also.

Teague,
East of the Mississippi!
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:19 pm
Forum: Polls
Topic: Grouse Hunters
Replies: 33
Views: 38177

Re: Grouse Hunters

Matt,
Thank you sir for the very nice complement.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:05 pm
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Laurona/ Zabala shotguns
Replies: 8
Views: 5929

Re: Laurona/ Zabala shotguns

Soldaat,
The man you need to talk to is Larry Brown, he will probably be able to give the information you want on this weapon,
look him up on the Shooting Sportsman forum.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:59 pm
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: straight stocked pump gun.
Replies: 17
Views: 9380

Re: straight stocked pump gun.

Jim,
Would you explain please why you want such a short BBl pump gun, other than home protection there is very little legal use for
them in my home state of Pa. If you are bird hunting a 26" or 28" BBl would make more sense.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:01 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Bias against walking handled dogs
Replies: 148
Views: 33898

Re: Bias against walking handled dogs

SubM, Every Grouse hunter in the world is reading this post and laughing like mad, they have been saying the exact same thing to me for many many years now. To them FT is a social game, and no matter how talented your dog happens to be, the social game is more important the an actual dogs talent. It...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:25 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Lesser Breeds
Replies: 88
Views: 20697

Re: Lesser Breeds

Gentlemen, 1st there is no such thing as a lesser breed, this wording came about here in the USA because the FT crowd actually believes their animals are somehow superior to other gun dogs, which is pure bull. Having owned many different gun dogs and trained even more, each gun dog is bred to do a c...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:42 am
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Retirement gun?
Replies: 30
Views: 11505

Re: Retirement gun?

NJ GSP, Man do I agree with you, grab the 16 Gauge L.C. Smith if you can, they are fine field guns and if you get an older one they are very very high quality American made weapons. Depending on your monitary situation you might consider something like the 16 Gauge Elsies below as retierment guns. R...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:19 am
Forum: Training
Topic: E-Collar Question
Replies: 9
Views: 2839

Re: E-Collar Question

Georgia, The DT H20 T&B collars are very high quality training collars, we use ours quite a bit. The only draw back is that you can not leave the collar on charge all the time, after the initial charge up, 3 to 5 hour only. However the collars charge up quickly and are very reliable. The only collar...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:57 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: English Setter
Replies: 26
Views: 8982

Re: English Setter

Essoclub,
I agree with the rescue dog also, if you never plan to hunt. You can find a nice Setter in a rescue shelter for minimal money,
and save the dogs life. Owning a Ryman gun dog and not hunting is a sin in itself.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:18 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: woodcock in the swamps
Replies: 22
Views: 8240

Re: woodcock in the swamps

NC,
Have fun and I hope you get some cooler weather with less rain!
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:03 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: First Bird Dog Gun Suggestions?
Replies: 28
Views: 9087

Re: First Bird Dog Gun Suggestions?

Rock_Binder, We have some real good gun smiths and Master Gun Makers here in Pa, & Ca. I do understand there are a lot of part changers around today, a man must do his home work and find a good one if he plans on owning good weapons. Here are two very good master Gun Makers, Economy Gun Smithing Eco...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:26 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: woodcock in the swamps
Replies: 22
Views: 8240

Re: woodcock in the swamps

NC, When I had my home in Slidell the Woodcock used my property for nesting all the time, it was just incredible having the the birds close up and not being scared of anything. Heck my back yard was actually wet lands that ran up against lake P, had my own boat dock and all. Had both Wood Ducks and ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:07 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: tips for getting started on grouse...
Replies: 44
Views: 20071

Re: tips for getting started on grouse...

MN Grouse Guy,
I do pitty the men who have to ship dogs and fly into hunt Grouse, I live in the Pa forest and have Grouse, Deer, Bear and Turkey on my property, even have an old Elk who visits once in a while.
RGD/Dave

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by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:52 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: English Setter
Replies: 26
Views: 8982

Re: English Setter

Essoclub, Ryman type Setters are great hunting and family pets, bred by George Ryman to be layed back in the home and great Grouse hunters in the woods. Lynn Dee has good Ryman Grouse dog, along with Andy Sorg and a few others. We have developed a Ryman Breeders list that we work form in our Grouse ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:29 am
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Lion Country Ugartechea
Replies: 10
Views: 7454

Re: Lion Country Ugartechea

MTR,
You are correct sir, unless the gun was tested for steel shot I would use a different kind of shell. This really does not effect me with my upland hunting most times. These are definitely serious Grouse guns, I would like to own both a 28 & 16 Gauge
SL, Grade IV and up.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:17 am
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Retirement gun?
Replies: 30
Views: 11505

Re: Retirement gun?

BD68, This is a 1st if it really happened, did you see the gun? Seems to me Uggie would stand behind the repair of the BBls or replacement of them, if a bulge occured during normal shooting use. If the BBls were faulty I can't see why Uggie would not replace or repair them, especially if the man was...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:38 am
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Retirement gun?
Replies: 30
Views: 11505

Re: Retirement gun?

treedaddy, Consider a new Ugartechera Grade V, either in a 16 or 12 Gauge as your retierment gun, in my opinion they are some of the very best modern sidelock double gun made today for the money a mans expends. $3,000 - 3,900. If you really want a big time retierment double gun, I suggest a #5 L.C. ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:24 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: tips for getting started on grouse...
Replies: 44
Views: 20071

Re: tips for getting started on grouse...

PBK, I fully understand, better not to scare the new Grouse hunters to badly, we do need them to understand however that as your picture shows, Grouse hunting is done in dense habitat at a very quick rate of speed. The great thing about it is that with a good Grouse dog, the dog hunts the cover whil...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:32 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: wild birds
Replies: 27
Views: 8824

Re: wild birds

Bow,
Those old timers are probably right.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:26 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: wild birds
Replies: 27
Views: 8824

Re: wild birds

Elk Hunter, I did not say the dog had to figure the entire thing out on the 1st session, only that you the trainer would know weather the dog was going to become a Grouse dog or not, it usually happens in the 1st few hours, chasing and bumping are usually part of what happens with a good young dog. ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:48 pm
Forum: Hunting
Topic: wild birds
Replies: 27
Views: 8824

Re: wild birds

Codym,
No doubt about it, you must use proper training techniques, even when training with wild Grouse, especially that of not shooting bumped birds.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:26 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: woodcock in the swamps
Replies: 22
Views: 8240

Re: woodcock in the swamps

NC, Great stuff, and the male Wood Ducks are making me green with envy, I have never been able to shoot one that I did not destroy the head, and have never been able to mount one, even when I lived on the big lake in Slidell. The Woodcock are great also, hay guys remember to be careful with your dog...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:19 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: wild birds
Replies: 27
Views: 8824

Re: wild birds

Bow Hunter, If your dog has the correct genetics the wild Grouse will teach your dog to lock up at 1st scent, you will find out in a matter of hours, if your dog has the right genetic imprint by training on wild Grouse. We do this every day here and believe me it works. You can then final finish wit...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:12 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: First Bird Dog Gun Suggestions?
Replies: 28
Views: 9087

Re: First Bird Dog Gun Suggestions?

Gentlemen, I can fully understand your opinion, however dealing with a professional Gun Smith or Master gun Maker who has a honest gun business is part of purchasing fine weapons, finding such a business is all part of acquiring decent weapons, and sometimes you have to wait a little to acquire the ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:52 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: tips for getting started on grouse...
Replies: 44
Views: 20071

Re: tips for getting started on grouse...

4ShotB, The reason you have never missed a Grouse is because you have not Grouse hunted very often. PBK gave you good advise, however his 3 sec time was a might off, in reality it has been proven that it only takes 3 tenths of a sec after a spookey Grouse leaves the Ground, for the Grouse to put som...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:52 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Long-term population predictions?
Replies: 10
Views: 3427

Re: Long-term population predictions?

Stoneface, Got to disagee about the wild Quail and Pheasant populations, weather conditions play such a big role in their population that it can go from bad to good in one or two seasons. In some areas however, where wild Pheasants were plentyful, farming practices have changed and game commissions ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:21 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: First Bird Dog Gun Suggestions?
Replies: 28
Views: 9087

Re: First Bird Dog Gun Suggestions?

Media310, Having Grouse hunted for over 50 years now, my recommendations for a Grouse gun are these, find and old 16 Gauge L.C. Smith, Fox, Parker or Ithaca gun that you really like. Have the gun choked to C & IC, make sure the gun fits you properly. Pattern your double gun and find out which sells ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:59 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: tips for getting started on grouse...
Replies: 44
Views: 20071

Re: tips for getting started on grouse...

4ShotB, Tenn is a tough state for Grouse for sure, I suggest you contact your SGL and State forester, have them give you their Forest Cutting information for the past 6 years on maps if they can, then go to those cuts with your dogs and investigate them fully, to find your Grouse coverts. If the for...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:22 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: What's Your Rig like?
Replies: 101
Views: 70450

Re: What's Your Rig like?

Outlaw, Over many years we have used a lot of different rigs for transporting us and the dogs to both Grouse hunt and train. At one time when living in Texas we had a pull along trailer, and a double wheel pick up truck with slide on camper, we used it for years. When I moved back north to Pa I sold...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:56 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Temperament
Replies: 20
Views: 4428

Re: Temperament

AZ, If you purchase the right dog, such as the real Ryman Gun dog, you give up neither, the developed genetics for being agressive to birds but layed back in the home is bred into the breed line over generations. Temperment better known as bidability in both the field and home is a genetic trait, so...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:38 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Irish setter?
Replies: 30
Views: 9149

Re: Irish setter?

Ladies & Gentlemen, KwickIrish has given some good advise, make sure you do your home work when purchasing, especially in the HD health area, you want to see the HD history of the breeders kennel, especially the parents of the pup you are purchasing. What is the Guarantee given by the breeder, will ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:01 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Blue weimaraners
Replies: 95
Views: 23385

Re: Blue weimaraners

QT, The German Breed Wardens set the Weimar standards not AKC, remember Blues are prize Weimar animals in Germany, in fact after Sam won the Fort Hood open invitational the 2nd time, part of the prize he won was a real fully trained imported German Weimar. The German Breed Warden decided the best do...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Mon Dec 26, 2011 1:34 pm
Forum: Guns and Ammo
Topic: Laurona/ Zabala shotguns
Replies: 8
Views: 5929

Re: Laurona/ Zabala shotguns

Soldaat, The Zabala Gun makers are an old respected Spanish Gun making family, the quality of their work depends on the investment you want to make. They produced many very high end shotguns and medium grade shotguns also. Marlin Contracted Zabala to produce the new 28 Gauge & .410 L.C. Smith SxS do...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:48 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Too much dog?
Replies: 103
Views: 22748

Re: Too much dog?

Ladies & Gentlemen,
In my opinion there is no such thing as to much dog, however there are dogs bred to do different jobs, use the dog bred to the proper job, do the training correctly and
never let somebody tell you, you own to much dog.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:57 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Upland hunting during deer gun season
Replies: 26
Views: 7500

Re: Upland hunting during deer gun season

John,
Thank you sir, that is exactly what I was saying. Further if you have a dog in the woods during Deer gun season here in Pa and the WCO see it, get ready to due some tall explaining.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:42 am
Forum: Hunting
Topic: Dave's Spooky Grouse
Replies: 2
Views: 1246

Dave's Spooky Grouse

Gentlemen, This past 2 weeks we had Grouse hunters, with several different Setter breed lines in from several different states NH, NJ, Ohio, and west, their dogs went to school on our Pa spooky Grouse, the men went home with a new respect for our Pa Grouse, their dogs were very good, the Llews were ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:37 pm
Forum: Training
Topic: What kind of dog should i get?
Replies: 36
Views: 11832

Re: What kind of dog should i get?

llewellSetter, This week a young man visited our mountain home/training facility here in Potter /Tioga, he had one of the most talented Llewell Setter pups I had seen in 25 years. The pups name is Roscoe and he is a real nice pup, has some Ryman blood in his line a couple generations back, at 7 mont...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:03 am
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Traveling in Style next season!
Replies: 9
Views: 4015

Re: Traveling in Style next season!

Karen,
Congrats on your new travel unit, looks fantastic, enjoy!
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:50 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Upland hunting during deer gun season
Replies: 26
Views: 7500

Re: Upland hunting during deer gun season

Gentlemen & Ladies
Here in Pa it is against the law to hunt with your dogs in rifle Deer season, except on a regulated shooting grounds. So we do not hunt or train during this part of the season.
RGD/Dave
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:44 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Shooting birds not pointed...
Replies: 20
Views: 7355

Re: Shooting birds not pointed...

bwJohn, All birds must be pointed by our dogs 1st, with a rock solid point, the dog must be commanded to flush the birds by the master. No bird bumping allowed, even our old Boykin stopped dead to flush on command. Watching Rosie my old German Shorthair point, and having my brothers Boykin flush on ...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:30 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Shooting birds not pointed...
Replies: 20
Views: 7355

Re: Shooting birds not pointed...

Gentlemen We shoot pointed birds 99% of the time, every once in a great while one of the men, takes a wild flushing Grouse, as it leaves a big Hemlock. In our upland shooting life its not how many birds you take, its how you take the birds. We never gun bumped birds with young dogs, we expect our do...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:05 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: English Setter style
Replies: 67
Views: 22726

Re: English Setter style

Chukar12, For the most part it holds true and I can tell what is going to come up on the flush, every once in a while I get a surprise. In the 2nd Picture Daisy is close to the Woodcock, however she does not flush birds on her own. Our Small Munsterlander is a master at showing me which birds, rabbi...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:22 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: English Setter style
Replies: 67
Views: 22726

Re: English Setter style

Gentlemen, Actually there is some purpose to some dogs style, note the differences in the tail when pointing different birds. Daisy on Grouse point http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/pine-creek/DaisyonGrousePoint014.jpg Daisy pointing a Woodcock http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/pine-cr...
by Ryman Gun Dog
Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:05 pm
Forum: General Chat
Topic: Black GSP/DK vs the Hybred American GSP
Replies: 77
Views: 34005

Re: Black GSP/DK vs the Hybred American GSP

Ladies & Gentlemen, I stayed out of this thread for the most part, however I owned a great German Shorthair that was imported from Germany fully trained, she was an incredible animal and could run a full grown deer to the ground any time she wanted too, she was one of those big German dogs the USA b...