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RyanDoolittle

I think the original poster is mistaken on how american dogs handle their birds. Yes, in throw down trials you will see the dogs trained to not move once point is established. This is because in most cases, pen birds do not move, they just hide in whatever bush they were stuffed into. However if you...

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Sharon wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:57 am
Could you please post the link to that thread Sir? I can't find it. I think my posts don't go back to 2015.

I believe he is talking about this one.

RyanDoolittle

You guys need to start shooting more birds in launchers. Suddenly they start being interested again.

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I use a PVC pipe for the food and grit. You will need to make sure your loft is absolutely mouse proof or they will make home.

I use a milk jug for water so it's easy to bang ice out. Either way, water should be changed daily to ensure its fresh.

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You would be farther along come december if you ran the dog on wild birds once a week vs 3x a week on pigeons. If you have wild birds available, that's all I would use. Pigeons and launchers are for when you dont have wild birds, your breaking a dog to W&S or your working on backing. EVERYTHING els...

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Understood. No e-collar around birds! All I was trying to say is that when you know he just hit scent hard and pauses for a beat it’s hard to let him keep going without doing anything. That is what I’ll continue to do without saying a peep. Patience has never been a strong suit of mine so maybe it’...

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You would be farther along come december if you ran the dog on wild birds once a week vs 3x a week on pigeons. If you have wild birds available, that's all I would use. Pigeons and launchers are for when you dont have wild birds, your breaking a dog to W&S or your working on backing. EVERYTHING else...

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I think if you spent the rest of the year running the dog on wild birds and keeping your mouth shut, alot of these problems would go away by the time season closed. There are tons if wild birds in Idaho, use this as an oppritunity to find new areas. Dont worry so much about the dog doing anything ri...

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It is a sign of too much pressure being put on a dog. A dog should have 100% on the task at hand,that task is pointing birds. He is not making sure you know he is pointing. Sorry if this seems like a crazy basic question, but what kind of things would be likely sources of pressure for a dog in that...

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It is a sign of too much pressure being put on a dog.

A dog should have 100% on the task at hand,that task is pointing birds. He is not making sure you know he is pointing.

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I wouldnt even worry about steadying that dog. If its pointing and looking back at you then there are more issues that need to be resolved than getting the dog steady. At this point I would let that dog bump and chase as many birds as you can out it on. You need to get that drive and desire up. Maki...

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Even a free dog wouldnt make me hunt over a rescue. Besides the unknown of the dogs history the biggest factor is time and you can never get that back once it is gone. $1000 is cheap in the big picture of owning a bird dog. Do your research, find a well bred dog, and out that time into a puppy or a ...

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Took me 3 seasons of hunting a dog like this to realize it was a dud and not worth feeding. He would string me along with "glimmers of hope" like what your dog is doing. However st the end of season I would be frustrated, angry, and pushed farther and farther away from bird hunting. Take it from som...

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Noone can answer how far your dog needs to range. Cover, terrain, training, individual dog. These are all factors that you take into consideration. Example, right now I have a 4 month old puppy thatI just let roll. She is just starting to get some legs and hasn't seen alot of birds. At this point I ...

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If it's hot enough out to worry about it, then any sort of active cooling while driving is a wasted time and energy. The sun beating down on the canopy alone will heat faster than you can cool. Like mentioned above, focus on keeping the air moving across the dog and through the canopy. Open the slid...

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This is another 6 month old Odyssey pup at a clinic earlier this Spring. He was so naturally steady to flush and wing they were going to go ahead and steady him up ahead of fall. First bird dog of the young man who owns and is training him. Dog has trained really easy for him so far. Another nice d...

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cjhills wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:35 pm
Been there and done that be careful....Cj

I agree. Be careful with those dogs.

RyanDoolittle

I use the command in the field when I'm sure the dog knows what is expected. If he ignores me, I use the e collar . Whilst your Singing may be of virtue, if the dog knows what is expected ,then why would it ignore you ? , I was just watching a great film ' A few Good Men ' ..and just thought of a '...

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You might want to talk to Kirk Schlrbaum from Cedar creek or Jphn Kadacy at Covey Up. Sounds like your looking for the same type of dog I am and these seem to fit the bill. One thing about Kirk is he seems to be consistently producing wild bird dogs that look amazing. High head, high tail, stand tal...

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asc wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:25 am
we used to have a Ryman guy on here?
Did he pass on or was regulated out?

Of all the lines of ENGLISH setters, the large body and long coats on the Rymans will make them the least adapt to taking the heat of Texas.

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not like the english pointers, or some of the short haird dogs ,some dogs know how to pace there selfs better than others, i have setters myself, and one pointer beleive me the pointer can take the heat much better, thats why i have him early season grouse hunting in michigan can get pretty warm il...

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setters in that heat doesnt sound like a good fit but if your sons mind is made up im sure you can find what your looking for do your homework and dont settle for anything less than your looking for There are alot of setters out there that can take the heat. Most from western breeders. They may not...

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You can bring a dog in if he runs too big,what you cant do is train him to handle the heat. If I were your son that would be the first thing I would make sure. I dont see Rymans handling heat very well.

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What I mainly noticed in that video is how much junk the poor dog is lugging around with it. In my opinion if a dog really needs to drag check cords around and wear electronic gadgetery around it's neck then something in the dogs basic training has been skimped on or missed out completely. Nobody i...

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I am going to follow along because I will need transport for a dog from east Iowa to Montana at the end of july. So if any dog haulers are looking at this please feel free to get in touch. The last dog I bought I flew from Iowa to Great Falls MT and it was about $200 for an 8 week old puppy in 2013....

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Cicada wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 9:49 pm
I remembered a fellow Carlo Degan He bought a GSP in 1960 for $250 he bred that breed for decades some were winners some were not so much but a lot of birds ended up in the freezers of the local Italian gang. That was a lot of money in 1960...

Grant

About the price of a PudelPointer today

RyanDoolittle

I think we might be getting a little of topic. So I will say that if one pup out of a litter of well bred dogs makes a true all age dog it is considered by some 100%. That is considering they are run in a lot of AA trials and given a fair chance. I know that there are a few exceptions but one out o...

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Not sure if you are allowed SOB ,Ryan, maybe you are ? :roll: He meant Shadow Oak Bo . Hmmm- I wonder what Polmaise was alluding to?? I could hazard a guess... but I believe I should not, but rather leave that to each reader. More entertaining that way, I think. RayG PS - FWIW, I have seen a fair b...

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polmaise wrote: ↑
Tue May 26, 2020 9:47 am

RyanDoolittle wrote: ↑
Mon May 25, 2020 10:03 pm

SOB puppies are cheap because they arent worth squat on the circuit.
Not sure if you are allowed SOB ,Ryan, maybe you are ? :roll:

I think maybe you shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about.

RyanDoolittle

Was winning shooting dog stakes with a nice young derby setter. I saw he was...special. So I called a pro that runs the shooting dog circuit. He campaigned the dog for a couple of years with admirable results but my friend couldn't afford to keep him with the pro. The pro had a buyer for this sette...

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A few years ago I heard of a dog that won a CH in one of the dakotas, that evening the owners wife turned down a $60,000 offer, said they were having too much fun with the dog. The dog ran the national this year.

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I've looked at 1 dog that was half prairie wind(PW stud). Nice looking dog but my walnut hill dog ran faster, farther, and covered more ground at a year old. Looked pretty on point though. I dont think I would hesitate to buy one. Sounds like you have had really good backing from the breeder side. I...

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Still one of the most influential setters today.

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Brandon Blum is in California and is breeding his Lewey dog to his Madison dog.

If I didnt have a deposit down on another pairing, I would be all over that.

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The benefits of Force Fetching a dog far outweigh a little ear pinch for a couple days. You will get the retrieve you want and will have a different relationship, for the better, with your dog. Whether they need it or not, I FF all my dogs. FF is not just about the retrieve. I've heard that and som...

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The benefits of Force Fetching a dog far outweigh a little ear pinch for a couple days. You will get the retrieve you want and will have a different relationship, for the better, with your dog.

Whether they need it or not, I FF all my dogs. FF is not just about the retrieve.

RyanDoolittle

I wouldnt bother talking to the judges at this point. A 6 month old dog all they will tell you is let her mature. Stake your dog out and walk the braces. Watch the dogs but watch the handlers more, especially in the adult stakes. You will soon start to see what winning handlers are doing and what th...

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Fed the back to nature crap.and nearly lost my dog, a friend did loose his. He had people in lab suits picking up poop in his back yard for tests. After this I read reviews and there is a ton of them with sick dogs from the food.

I switched to PPP and havent looked back.

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Going through this right now on the prairies. 2017 more birds than I have ever seen. Huns were literally everywhere. That summer we had a bad drought. Cover either didnt grow and what did got eaten by cattle and deer. Winter 2017/2018 was the worst we have also seen in a long time. Ranchers were plo...

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My setter averages 12 mph when foot hunting. Considerably faster when on HB.

Thats over the past hunting season with the GPS.

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Jhawk the dogs know the difference between field trialing and hunting. They adjust their range and pattern accordingly. That being said dont go out, buy and All-Age dog and expect him to hunt 100 yards. Look at NSTRA or Gun Dog lines and you will be very happy. I had the #1 young dog in Canada (CKC)...

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In north america with pointing breeds the best money you can spend is sending your dog to the prairie for the 1st 2 summers starting at 6 months or a year. The first year they will learn to handle and that they are out there to work. 2nd year they should come back green broke. After that you will ha...

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Looking at the reports from the trials this summer also showed bird numbers suffering.

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I live an hour north of the boarder (about 3hrs north of Great Falls). We did bird counts with the ACA about 30 min north of the border in the late summer and found populations were down 60% over past years. A drought last year meant very little cover then this winter killed off alot of wild game no...

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Get into the cover with him. He'll follow you. Go slowly. That’s been my approach so far but he will get behind me and want me to blaze the trail. When you start flushing birds and he is behind you it will click the action is in the front. Generally the first 2 years your stuck in the thick crap wi...

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GDS has always been easy to deal with for me as well. Last I dealt with LCS was on facebook. They were advertising trade in your Astro 320 for a 430. I replied I was interested and was curious what the trade value on a 320 was. All I got for a reply was we dont deal with Canada for Garmin, in which ...

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At 5 months old its tough to tell.

My last shorthair started find the front and his legs at about a year old.

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The dog will most likely make a nice Gun Dog, maybe HB gun dog at best. There are a couple All-Age dogs in there but I wouldnt get my hopes up.

Start by going to a couple AKC and NGSPA derby trials to get your feet wet. If you enjoy them try some of the Horseback trials.

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averageguy wrote:I see a collar with antenna on the dog. GPS only? Ecollar and GPS? Apparently one or both allowed in the trial?

GPS only, ecollars are not allowed. Certain GPS collars are not allowed as well.

RyanDoolittle

I would bet major circuit dogs see more wild birds in a year than most hunting dogs do...... However wild birds is what develops dogs, its the training that turns them into trials dog. Dogs are taught to run edges and cast out to bluffs. They are developed to run as hard as they can, as fast as they...

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