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I was not part of the thread....... As I recall someone asked for a moderator to lock the thread. No moderator was forced to intervene.

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Who's subscribing to the Outdoor channel other than hunters...... No one, this appeasing the masses is nonsense.

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CK, Have you ever hunted behind a National Champion contender? Have you even seen a NC video? How can you say most have no use for them? I have hunted them and will always have a place for another. Many are trained for water retrieves and all could be. And I would liken them to an enhanced Humvee. ...

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For flushers on pheasants, I prefer them running on flush.

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Collins1527 wrote:If it helps keep people interested in the dogs and keeping the sport going I'm all for it. We may as well forget about just wild bird hunting those days are gone.

You need to get out more.

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ACooper wrote:Does anyone remember American Gundog? Now that was a good show.

Yes, and I agree.

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Neil wrote:Honest, I do care, please identify the two Repub gun haters.

Instead of exposing my many personal shortcomings, perhaps you could explain how suing gun manufacturers will help stop gun violence?

I already have (post #2). As to your last, why would are argue with you over an issue we agree on?

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I have watched all the debates and the only clear anti-gun messages I have heard are from the Dems. Its the Republican primaries, no Republican is going to argue gun control in the primaries. :roll: Yet their are clearly two gun haters, and you couldn't careless. It just shows you are more concerne...

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I have watched all the debates and the only clear anti-gun messages I have heard are from the Dems. Its the Republican primaries, no Republican is going to argue gun control in the primaries. :roll: Yet their are clearly two gun haters, and you couldn't careless. It just shows you are more concerne...

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It is hard to tell what Trump is for or against this week, and he doesn't even know about what he might do next week; but I can't believe he would fall for holding gun companies liable for crimes done with guns. That seems to be faint praise for Trump. There is no question in my mind that the most ...

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I have a position; I choose not to share it. It would appear I'm on a mission to inform. What's your mission? Is it to misinform? Or is it to create fear? My mission is to educate and to reveal those that fully support the Second Ammendment . The gun - car analogy does not hold; no one is stupid en...

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So, if the rules don't allow running, the judges must be pretty darn poor judges to allow it. In a Retriever Field Trial, any breach of the rules results in either complaints to the judge or written charges to the field trial committee. The ones I saw on TV, the men were running, the dog's weren't ...

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I didn't say there was no running, just that by the rules there is not supposed to be running. Look at the rules for Bird Dog Challenge. 3. Running during competition is NEVER allowed. Scoresheets include “WATCH YOUR PACE” boxes on them. As you leave the gate, scorekeepers will inform competitors o...

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I knew that this thread, like so many others on this forum, was going to end up in a pissing match. I remember the following thread on here dealing with these tournament hunt formats a few years back that went down the same path: http://gundogforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=38780&p=363470#p363...

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In a retriever trial/hunt test, they take tame ducks (or pheasant), throw them up in the air and kill them, if they get away they repeat until they kill the tame ducks for the "game", then they are retrieved. In Spaniel trials, they plant the tame pheasants in a very small area and go out a kill th...

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In a retriever trial/hunt test, they take tame ducks (or pheasant), throw them up in the air and kill them, if they get away they repeat until they kill the tame ducks for the "game", then they are retrieved. In Spaniel trials, they plant the tame pheasants in a very small area and go out a kill the...

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Should gun manufacturers be held liable when their products are used to maim or kill? All three Dem Presidential candidates say yes. If the ban were lifted, not one manufacturer could remain in business. Should car manufacturers be sued when a drunk driver kills others? Should the Government be all...

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Looks fun.

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Ducks Unlimited terminates long time columnist, over an article about a wealthy donor. As many of you know, I have been a regular contributor to Ducks Unlimited magazine for nearly twenty years, serving as their Field Editor and writing the back page column in every issue. Not any more. In October, ...

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If I was to do a DIY hunt on public land in the Midwest, what state and county should I focus my attention. Ultimately would like to stop enroute for overnight and day hunt in additional state back and from where ever I end up going. Trying to keep it within 2 day drive from eastern PA. Planning fo...

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Bacon1676 wrote:Why is dog stuff never on sale? I've looked at just about every site big and small, but the dog training stuff never goes on sale. What's up with that?

What are you looking for?

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Marsh, although Ezzy claims "Several of us stated that we saw owned, or trained pointing Labs way before the kennel you are accusing was around and decades before the silver were introduced." , that seems hard to believe given that the kennel was established in 1899. :D Obviously Ezzy is well inform...

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you were the one that made the statements about pointing labs all being a product of one kennel[/color] and that that was the kennel responsible for introducing silvers as though that somehow indicated that Wiems were responsible for both color and pointing. That may be your thoughts but as we both...

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Nikegundog- http://pointing-lab.com/gmpr-mpr-ipr-cp-cashzingers-cattail-corky/ this is the sire to my old boy. It really doesn't matter to me- but I do not see Kellogg in the blood line. Are you saying it is there? Just trying to figure out the bloodlines Marsh, I don't see any in the Sire. And no ...

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I did and I am. That is, for some reason, the only pedigree that won't open on either site. So post it. You have said that every pointing lab goes back to Kellog, that is a lie and you can not even come close to justifying that comment. You also seem to think that all Klogg did was specialize in po...

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I did and I am. That is, for some reason, the only pedigree that won't open on either site. So post it. You have said that every pointing lab goes back to Kellog, that is a lie and you can not even come close to justifying that comment. You also seem to think that all Klogg did was specialize in po...

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I did and I am. That is, for some reason, the only pedigree that won't open on either site. So post it. You have said that every pointing lab goes back to Kellog, that is a lie and you can not even come close to justifying that comment. You also seem to think that all Klogg did was specialize in po...

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I did and I am. That is, for some reason, the only pedigree that won't open on either site. So post it. You have said that every pointing lab goes back to Kellog, that is a lie and you can not even come close to justifying that comment. You also seem to think that all Klogg did was specialize in po...

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You'll have to post the pedigree. It doesn't open on their site. And you're saying that because ONE dog MAY have some KELLOGG in it, that all pointing labs came from KELLOGG and that only pointing labs with Kellogg in their background point? You'll have a hard sell on that one. You called me a liar...

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As far as I can see, you did not google his kennel bloodlines and they do NOT go back to Kellogg. You are intentionally lying to promote your mistaken view that lab's don't point naturally. By mis-stating if not actually lying, you've lost any and all credibility with me. My problem comes with you ...

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I googled you Bear Point Kennels and two or three of their dogs go back to a generation of Kellogg. What about their other dogs that have no Kellogg in their background? I have to say, your assumption that all pointing labs go back to Kellogg is foolish and totally unprovable. Silvers? Maybe. I agr...

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gonehuntin' wrote:

Would you mind posting that? I googled both kennels, looked at all of their stud dogs 5G pedigrees, and didn't see any Kellogg dogs in it. Lots of Mary Howley's Candlewood dogs and Jay Walkers Trieven dogs, buy no Kellogg.???

http://www.bearpointkennel.com/Pedigree/Bear.pdf

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Here is what I have as personal experience. I purchased a PL from Hunters Point Kennel in 1998. The sire and dam were both titled in APLA as well as in AKC and UKC. The dog was flat out a monster on pheasants. I also hunted quail, grouse and woodcock in the uplands and shot goose and ducks as well....

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Here is what I have as personal experience. I purchased a PL from Hunters Point Kennel in 1998. The sire and dam were both titled in APLA as well as in AKC and UKC. The dog was flat out a monster on pheasants. I also hunted quail, grouse and woodcock in the uplands and shot goose and ducks as well....

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Labs pointed before that kennel was ever known. They've pointed forever. I can't comment on silver labs, but as far as pointing labs, I don't think they had anything to do with Kellogg Kennels. You see yellow, black, chocolate; they all point. And have since I've been involved in them. That was on ...

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Labs pointed before that kennel was ever known. They've pointed forever. I can't comment on silver labs, but as far as pointing labs, I don't think they had anything to do with Kellogg Kennels. You see yellow, black, chocolate; they all point. And have since I've been involved in them. That was on ...

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I agree with Polmaise, they've went the wayside on the account of the new fad, Silver Labs and Laberdoodles. I haven't noticed them going by the way side. However, I think many people have quit talking about them after being ridiculed and having someone tell everyone they are crossbreds when we kno...

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I agree with Polmaise, they've went the wayside on the account of the new fad, Silver Labs and Laberdoodles.

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Trekmoor wrote:Is it legal to sell pups that may not point as Pointing Labs ? Are the pups sold on the basis of.... the sire and dam points so maybe the pups will too ?

Bill T.

And long as there's a little Weim, in their bloodlines.

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I enjoy watching a flusher work, watching his body language when he hits scent old or new, the momentum gained when he's hot, the clues each individual dog gives right before the flush. None of that can be seen at 75 yards+........... then there's the retrieve which can be equally awesome...........

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What about the hundreds of labs from all over the country that just point naturally? They certainly weren't from Mayo's kennel. I saw it in locally bred Idaho dog's, dog's of all color in Ca., labs in BC. Your assumption is ridiculous and totally without any merit. The same guy that over 99% of Sil...

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What about the hundreds of labs from all over the country that just point naturally? They certainly weren't from Mayo's kennel. I saw it in locally bred Idaho dog's, dog's of all color in Ca., labs in BC. Your assumption is ridiculous and totally without any merit. The same guy that over 99% of Sil...

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Grange, 99% of Silvers can be traced back to one kennel in SD, its the same guy who brought us the "Pointing Lab", he also bred Wiems.....

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Back yard breeder, is simple a term used for people that are not breeding primarily for income purposes or perhaps breeding an occasional litter, it seems that some confuse that term with "puppy mill". In no way is the term "Back yard breeder", synonymous with unethical or poor breeding.

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We, clueless? Haha, sounds like some lab folks could use a clue :wink: Very few well bred labs are sold on limited, it is far seen in the puppy mills and Silver breeders as a tool to limit competition. It's changing and changing quick. Too many big name field trial lab offspring have been sucked do...

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shags wrote:We, clueless?
Haha, sounds like some lab folks could use a clue

Very few well bred labs are sold on limited, it is far seen in the puppy mills and Silver breeders as a tool to limit competition.

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mnaj_springer wrote:Like I said, morbid curiosity. Maybe I had too much time on my hands when it popped in my brain, and subsequently "popped" onto the screen haha.

30, 100, 200 I believe,

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Number of posts, I believe.

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oldbeek wrote:What size steel shot will have the same knock down power of 71/2 lead?? What size steel shot would you use for quail?

1) #6
2) None

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