Gun Dog Forum

I got broke into field shooting ducks with one of those. I still believe I took more of a beating than the ducks did.

the "blue" coat is actually a recessive gene just like the long haired gene. Not according to VetGen who will do a genetic marker test for the color genes your dog carries. From their color page, regarding the dilution gene "The D locus is the primary locus associated with diluted pigment, which re...

OK ezzy, you've convinced me. Anyone one who trains in temps above 90 degrees will kill their dog. Sorry to have disagreed with a member of the family.

Interesting note about the differences in Chev and GMC. Back in 1949 the Chev engines had no oil filter and the GM ones did. Otherwise most other parts are interchangeable. Creating an image?

hjackson, do you train your dogs steady to wing shot and fall?

Now that we have that firmly established, what about the "trial focus" deal?

I understand that historically the weimeraner breed did not contain the black color gene. It was selectively bred out. Silver is the dilute of brown and Blue is the dilute of Black. Somewhere the black color gene was introduced in the dogs to get the Blue color. From the AKC standard "A distinctly b...

You tell me if a dog entered in a trial ceases to be a gun dog.

Don wrote:I've had a fairly long list of guns and have not owned a bad shotgun that I remember.

You must not have ever owned one of these

I will second the 10/22 on the list of bad guns. Unreliable feeding and not too accurate.

I had a Brit one time that I didn't like. It was a bonehead to train. My friend had a GSP neither he nor I liked. It was a bonehead to train. I know a fellow with a Weimeraner I don't like. Doesn't play nice with others and won't hunt hard. I know a fellow with GWP's I don't like. Don't play nice wi...

I like my Brits because they hunt hard. They are easy to train. They get along well with others. They play nice in the house. Did I mention they hunt? I like my friends GSP because it hunts hard. It is easy to train. It gets along well with others. It plays nice in the house. I like my other friends...

I would suggest that if the trainer has a number of dogs he is working and he is seeing that this one dog is having a problem with overheating to the extent he has singled out it is a problem, then the dog has a problem. If the trainer had a problem he would have a kennel full of overheating dogs. A...

ezzy, I understand you are trying to "clean up" a percieved problem, but you are attacking the wrong places IMO. "Do that enough times, train in 90's temperatures, will have a dead dog." Is a definitive statement that is WRONG. Gonehuntin' provides clear cut evidence that the statement is indeed wro...

He said the vast majority of people, ergo, there are more folks who have trained more dogs to high levels in the trial community than there are in the NAVHDA community. That is certainly true in the area I am from.

Greg, could you elucidate the specifics of what is "trial focus" and what is not? Might help keep folks from making a faux pas on this site that is *supposed* to be about gun dogs.

also he needs a little more work steadying to flush any suggestions not involveing a shock collar would be nice My apologies ezzy for the poor wording. The most common practice is to condition while chasing. I was alluding to your post. The quote above indicates to me that although the dog is chasi...

ezzy, that is the standard method by which most folks will gun condition, myself included, however here is a dog which is 8 months old, has not been gun conditioned and is being steadied on birds - there is no chase.

Whoa has nothing to do with the dog prior to the flushing effort. It's use is to control the dog when the bird takes flight. As I said earlier, if you desire to continue on the path you are on, which is fine by me, you should do your gun conditioning over the food bowl in the yard and only transfer ...

Bashed - just what is that anyway. Is that when you post something that is untrue and you are corrected for it? Is that when someone explains what you are doing could potentially head you for disaster? Is that when someone asks a question they did not want to hear the answer to? Is it when someone g...

How many years back are you going? I had forgotten all about that forum. It never had anything happening on it much. I just checked in and it doesn't really look too dead to me. All the same posters on there as here and on PDJ and SS and UPJournal etc.

Gun conditioning at the gun range. Worst thing to do - Worked for me. The head to head. Worst to do is often the advice given by folks who have trained numerous dogs either as amateurs or professionals. Worked for me is usually given as advice from the owner of one or two dogs. Why do we keep hearin...

You must have missed my question. Which boards have been killed? Are there more posts where die hard trialers have tried to force their agenda on poor unsuspecting folks, or just the one I posted to? I haven't seen the pandemic on here, but then sometimes it doesn't take much to trigger some folks. ...

Are you just looking for an arguement windyhills? Do you have a personal agenda? The fellow posted that his 8 month old dog is on its 4th bird ever. That is FOUR. In with that post he included that the dog was having trouble with being steady till flush. I don't know what philosophy you are ascribin...

Which board has been killed?

If the dog is found standing after and I did not see the dog moving before the Huns flushed, I will give the benefit to the dog and assume he was standing prior. When hunting and a dog fails to return from a piece of cover or over a knoll, always have a shell in the chamber before you go looking for...

I use the Gonia without the pea. I like the sound better - it doesn't hurt my ears. It is used very little while hunting, quite a bit more when trialing, but the dogs certainly know what the sound of the whistle means. Much less intrusive to wild game birds than the voice I believe.

A dog from great lines won't turn out so well if you don't bring it up properly. That is certainly true. But what you forgot to mention is that a pup with poor breeding will not turn out so well no matter what you do with it. Buy the best breeding you can find for what you want to do with the dog. T...

Get the EP and don't look back.

I would have thought this would be rather obvious, but it makes no difference how many times a day you feed your dog as far as weight gain is concerned, it is how much you feed your dog. DO NOT GET YOUR DOG OVERWEIGHT. 8 week pups do quite fine on 2x a day. I never switch the dogs off that myself, b...

OK. A hill in my yard with 7 feet or rise works for me.

What is the terrain like? Changes in elevation can give you air movement that will carry scent even on windless days. As the evening sun sets you can catch scent downhill and the early morning warming will carry scent uphill. In the mid-day heat give the dog lounge chair and crack her a beer.

Some people? How about the FCI? http://www.fci.be/nomenclatures_detail.asp?lang=en&l=E&file=group7&name=English+Pointer The largest dog organization in the world calls the breed the English Pointer. FWIW, Dave And what that is worth is that the largest dog organization in the world can't even follo...