Springer spaniel i think

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Springer spaniel i think

Post by StrAp44 » Thu May 21, 2020 9:46 pm

I’m hoping to be in a position by the end of summer to get my first true hunting dog. My girlfriend and I have talked it over for more than a year about what dog(s) we will have. In the past I had a mutt/rescue that was a decent untrained upland dog. She never did great but we always had fun. At this point in life I believe I’m ready to tackle formal training. As far as the work, 1st priority will be shed hunting, 2nd will be pheasant. I’ve quit waterfowl hunting over the years so the only other adventure would be mountain walks for grouse.

I’ve been split between a Britt or springer. Everyone I hunt with has flushers which points me towards a springer. Just looking for some feedback as I’ve heard hunting pointers with flushers ruins dogs (unless specifically trained to work in tandem).

Thanks for any guidance. I know this topic has been beaten to death, I’ve read countless boards and articles. Just hoping I stir up something to help settle my decision.


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Re: Springer spaniel i think

Post by StrAp44 » Fri May 22, 2020 9:39 pm

Hopefully a little more info will help get the ball rolling:
Most of my hunting partners have English Springer Spaniels or Labs. As I would like to continue hunting with them I feel that it dismissed a Brittany from my choice at this time.
I’ve looked at the ESS clubs near me, I think the Mid-Penn is the closest (found on the ESSFT site). But I can’t seem to find an informational site for them, even the Facebook site lacks any real help.

I would most likely go through the breeder my hunting buddies go through but want to know all my options. Online I see most FT/FC springers are black and white or liver and white. Is brown and white uncommon or less desired?


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Re: Springer spaniel i think

Post by Garrison » Fri May 22, 2020 10:28 pm

Most folks here run pointing dogs. But if pheasant hunting is the task at hand, you would be hard pressed to do any better than a well bred Springer. The first dog I ever hunted over as a kid was a Springer named Pepper, I can remember it like it was yesterday, eye opening. What a ball of single minded bird busting energy. They can put them to wing and collect them up as well as anything with four legs. Sounds like it will be a good fit for the group you hunt with. Good luck with the search.

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Re: Springer spaniel i think

Post by Sharon » Sat May 23, 2020 5:21 pm

Polmaise is the springer expert on here. Suggest you PM him for help too.
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Re: Springer spaniel i think

Post by Featherfinder » Sun May 24, 2020 6:41 am

I'm with Garrison. A springer sounds like a good fit for you. And as already mentioned, they are specialists when it comes to ditch chickens!
They are very versatile so they can hunt just about anything too.
Finally, I think the training process from start to finish is much less work (typically) than any pointing breed.

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Re: Springer spaniel i think

Post by StrAp44 » Sun May 24, 2020 8:07 am

Thank you for the responses. I’m excited to start that next chapter of life even if it isn’t for a little while. Some day I hope to find myself in the pointing crowd, but not just yet I suppose.

Thanks again. If anyone has other recommendations for breeds to consider please let me know.


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Post by Dakotazeb » Sun May 24, 2020 9:56 am

Where are you located? Know where you are will help in recommending a breeder.
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Re: Springer spaniel i think

Post by StrAp44 » Sun May 24, 2020 10:14 am

Central Pennsylvania:
40 minutes north of Harrisburg
2.5 hrs from Philadelphia
3.5-4 hrs from Pittsburgh

We’ve already discussed the possibility of traveling up to 8-9 hr hours for the right dog and just making it a mini vacation as well.


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Post by Dakotazeb » Sun May 24, 2020 10:19 am

Make sure you get a true "field bred" Springer. Over the years the field and bench Springers have almost evolved into separate breeds. Sorry I can't help you with any breeders in your area but I could give you a couple of excellent references in Minnesota. PM me if you would like that info.
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Re: Springer spaniel i think

Post by birdshot » Sun May 24, 2020 6:46 pm

Go to a springer field trial, volunteer to be a shagger. You will see some excellent dogs and probably know which know which line of springers you want your pup from by the end of the trial. Hopefully trials will start back up by this fall.

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