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Re: If you could go back

Postby setterpoint » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:19 pm

i know better but still make the same mistake of trying to move the training to fast and i have to back track to much.. trying to rush the training will take more time than if you took the time to do it right the first time .
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Re: If you could go back

Postby birddown12 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:21 pm

thought i would get this one rolling again...a few things i would like to add over my years that i see hinders a good huntin dog.

1) Don't over command/correct (as others said, keep your mouth shut)
2) be very careful how you discipline and reward certain situations as to not give the wrong impression to the pup.
3) patience is worth more than words (these dogs we work with everyday are natural born hunters and your goal is to help improve and polish skills they already have...)
4) don't expect too much (every dog is different, some pick up things faster than others)
5) sometimes the dog gets "it" and they get bored, so you get upset thinking they are dumb, when in fact, you missed the point where he did what you asked several times and now he is on to something more fun!!)
6) Back to patience... during training, be sure to give your pup plenty of time to figure it out for himself. If you are playing hide and seek with an old pheasant hide, be sure to allow that pup ample time to find it. (review number 1 again)
7) most important - Don't you ever forget to praise your dog out in the field. Make sure they know you are proud of them.
8) you say a command only once and if they do not respond, you discipline. You will thank me for this some day while your friends are patting their hands and legs to get their dogs to come...
9) Take care of you pup, and be sure to give them structure, like having a place to come into the house on a bed and then make them lay there for the night, if they want to get up and run around, then they go back outside. Dogs need structure just like kids.
10) Last but not least... did i mention patience???
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Re: If you could go back

Postby NEhomer » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:57 pm

I read earlier in the thread about how much one moment of losing your cool can do to your efforts.

I have been VERY careful not to do that and my little guy is coming along nicely.

I have done that with previous dogs and I believe it to be a fundamental truth. If you're getting frustrated, call it a day. Now.
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Re: If you could go back

Postby birddown12 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:34 am

NEhomer wrote:I read earlier in the thread about how much one moment of losing your cool can do to your efforts.

I have been VERY careful not to do that and my little guy is coming along nicely.

I have done that with previous dogs and I believe it to be a fundamental truth. If you're getting frustrated, call it a day. Now.


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Re: If you could go back

Postby brady124 » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:16 pm

this is so much good information it will help me to cut down on the mistakes I will be making when I get my pup. I have never trained a pointing dog before I will be learning the whole way. im getting a griffon wirehaired in 4 months. the down fall is I live in north Dakota so it will be really cold and lots of snow when I get him. so for the first few months I will be training what I can in my house and garage. any advice for me out there? also looking for some good books to read to help me with training.
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Re: If you could go back

Postby Sharon » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:55 pm

I would have followed a tried and true programme instead of thinking I knew what i was doing.

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book recommendation:"Training with Mo"

I'd still get him out in the snow if there is no icy crust on the top of the snow. Great conditioning for a young dog and why not a pigeon in a bush here and there?
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Re: If you could go back

Postby NEhomer » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:13 pm

brady124 wrote:this is so much good information it will help me to cut down on the mistakes I will be making when I get my pup. I have never trained a pointing dog before I will be learning the whole way. im getting a griffon wirehaired in 4 months. the down fall is I live in north Dakota so it will be really cold and lots of snow when I get him. so for the first few months I will be training what I can in my house and garage. any advice for me out there? also looking for some good books to read to help me with training.


I got my pup in January of 15 and it was a bitter and snowy winter which made housebreaking very difficult. When you're out playing in the yard the rest of the year, a number of voids naturally happen outdoors. In the dead of winter, all outings must be arranged.

Now the good news is that when you are out with him, everything's snow and ice. No sticks, rocks, bugs, and debris to eat; nothing to get into. Also no skunks, snakes or porkies. Best of all, he'll be the perfect age to have his first season in the fall.
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Re: If you could go back

Postby Timewise65 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:17 pm

I would have continued running hunt tests after my Golden Retriever earned her Senior Hunter title and WCX. She would have earned her Master Hunter with just a little more training on my part. Now 3 years later, she is a bit out of shape and lost her edge in training. She is a great Water Dog and upland dog, for a flusher....but I loved running her, she loved running, I should have stayed with it. I may yet get going on it....I will see after hunting season is over this year...
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