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Post by MNTonester » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:17 am

10 Reasons Why I Will Never Vote for Hillary Clinton

Aaron Goldstein

July 26, 2016, 1:02 am

It’s her turn.

Under normal circumstances, a Republican wouldn’t feel compelled to explain why he wouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton. But 2016 is a year like no other. And in this year like no other, it has become an article of faith among supporters of Donald Trump that a refusal to vote for their man is a vote for Hillary Clinton. This is utter nonsense. Such logic implies that Trump is entitled to our vote without earning it. While it is true that some Republicans who object to Trump will vote for Hillary, I will not be among them.

Last week, when I wrote my 10 reasons why I would never vote for Donald Trump during the Republican National Convention, I promised I would also list my 10 reasons why I could never vote for Hillary Clinton during the Democratic National Convention. Well, promises made, promises kept.

Those "bleep" E-Mails

Hillary Clinton’s conduct in setting up a private e-mail server which transmitted top secret information and the FBI declining to recommend criminal charges demonstrates that she is above the law. Worse, Hillary acts like there is one law for her and her family and one law for everyone else. Oh, she takes “full responsibility” for her e-mails while saying other Secretaries of State have done the same. So when Hillary takes full responsibility for something, she is really taking no responsibility at all. This is a very dangerous quality for someone who seeks the office of President of the United States to possess.

Benghazi

Any government official who feels the need to ask, “At this point what does difference does it make?” where it concerns the deaths of four Americans including our Ambassador to Libya is unfit to be President of the United States. Mind you she asked this question after publicly blaming an internet video for the attack on the consulate, an attack that just happened to occur on the 11th anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Of course, her e-mail correspondence with daughter Chelsea on the attack indicated it was carried out by an “al Qaeda like group.” Again, Hillary takes full responsibility, but as she told Scott Pelley on 60 Minutes, “It was not my ball to carry.” We’ve come a long way from “The Buck stops here” to “It was not my ball to carry.” In this case, a long way isn’t a good way.

The Clinton Foundation

Is Donald Trump correct to say that Hillary Clinton turned the State Department into her family’s personal hedge fund by using the Clinton Foundation to sell access to foreign governments, many of which have dubious human rights records? Well, Trump ought to know. He helped fund the Clinton Foundation. At the very minimum, there is the appearance of impropriety. At worst, there’s enough corruption to put the UN to shame.

Russian Reset

Hillary Clinton has got Russia wrong from the moment she gave Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov a red button that was supposed to say reset in Russian. But instead of saying ‘perezagruzka’ it read ‘peregruzka,’ which means overcharged. It is nevertheless somehow fitting. Hillary may be the only person who actually believes the Russian reset worked. She claimed this because it brought the Russians around on sanctions against Iran. Well, where are those sanctions now? Also the people of Ukraine and Crimea might disagree with that assessment. Oh, things have been reset all right when a 3-Star Russian general can walk into the U.S. Embassy in Iraq and tell our military to get the heck of the sky.

Let’s put it another way. How well has the Russian reset worked if Hillary’s surrogates are blaming Russia for the leak of the DNC e-mails in order to help Trump?

She Doesn’t Possess an Ounce of Conviction (Although a Conviction is Certainly in Order)

If there’s a position, Hillary Clinton has held it. She’s been for the War in Iraq and she has been against it. She has been against gay marriage and she has been for it. She was pro-Israel, then anti-Israel, and now she’s pro-Israel again. She was for TPP and then along came Bernie Sanders and now she’s against it. Ditto for the Keystone Pipeline. Hillary has wrapped herself in the Second Amendment and has praised Australia’s gun confiscation program. Now Hillary Clinton isn’t the first politician to flip-flop and she won’t be the last, but she has turned flip-flopping into her default position. Combine this with her propensity for lying, there’s no reason anyone should believe a word that traverses her lips.

Her Contempt for Working People (Coal Miners in Particular)

During a Democrat Town Hall meeting last March, Hillary said, “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.”

This did not amuse Bo Copley, a laid off coal miner from West Virginia, who had the rare opportunity to publicly take her to task during a round table discussion in early May. Fighting back tears, Copley asked, “I just want to know how you can say you’re going to put a lot of coal miners out of, out of jobs, and then come in here and tell us how you’re going to be our friend, because those people out there don’t see you as a friend.”

Hillary’s response was typically self-serving. She told Copley:

I don’t know how to explain it other than what I said was totally out of context from what I meant, because I’ve been talking about helping coal country for a very long time. And it was a misstatement, because what I was saying is that the way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs.

Well, when people hear someone use the word “we’re,” that means Hillary intends to actively put coal miners out of business. Coal miners don’t need her kind of help. Hillary’s contempt for working people is plain to see as is her eagerness to insult people’s intelligence.

Calling Assad a Reformer

In February 2011, while appearing on CBS’s Face the Nation then hosted by Bob Schieffer, she incredulously claimed that Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad was “a reformer.” As soon as she made that claim, Schieffer reminded her that his father had killed tens of thousands of people. Hillary countered the younger Assad was “a different leader.” An estimated 400,000 people have died during the Syrian Civil War. Some difference.

The Obama Administration’s Designated Yeller at Benjamin Netanyahu

Hillary’s treatment of Assad contrasts with that of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In July 2014, she boasted in an interview with CNN’s Fareed Zakaria that she was the Obama Administration’s designated yeller. Most of this yelling came over the question of settlements. It’s too bad she couldn’t have the Administration’s designated yeller at Assad (or for that matter the Iranian Mullahs) for murdering their own people. Put the pressure where it belongs.

Republicans & The NRA Are My Enemies

In her 60 Minutes interview alongside Tim Kaine, she boasted about her success in working with Republicans. Yet last October when Anderson Cooper asked which enemy she was proudest of making, she listed Republicans and the NRA (along with the drug and health insurance companies) alongside Iran. Say what you will about Republicans, the NRA or the drug/health insurance companies, but I don’t recall any of them chanting “Death to America!!!”

Sniper Fire in Bosnia

During her first White House bid in 2008, Hillary told a tall tale about being under sniper file with daughter Chelsea in Bosnia in 1996. Although she was criticized for it at the time, it didn’t force her to withdraw from the race. Let’s remember that it was only last year that Brian Williams was suspended for six months and lost his position as NBC news anchor because of his false claim that he had been under sniper fire while in Iraq in 2003. As I asked at the time, “If Williams can no longer be the face of NBC, then can Hillary no longer be the face of the Democratic Party?”

As much as I loathe the prospect of Donald Trump being elected President, I take no comfort in Hillary being sworn into by Justice Roberts next January either. It is for these 10 reasons (among many others) that I shall not cast a ballot for Hillary Clinton in November.

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Post by DougB » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:55 am

Still doesn't make Trump a good candidate. You can be against Trump and against Hillery at the same time. There are other candidates running.
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Post by shags » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:18 pm

No third party candidate will get enough votes to make a difference of any kind to give a heads up to the two major parties.

If Trump wins and screws up, he can be impeached. There are enough antis to ditch him if need be.

If Hillary wins, we are stuck with her. S-T-U-C-K.

I'd rather take a chance with Trump than be stuck with that vile hag.

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Post by oldbeek » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:48 pm

If Hillary wins, we loose. She is anti hunter, anti gun,anti constitution. She will load the supreme court with liberal judges. Her entire career is strewn with crooked deals. The primary reason we can not produce jobs is the libs and enviro's stop any new construction. When at the Clinton library in 2009, there was a display where Bill and Hillary were taking credit for creating banking rules that allowed those who had no credit rating at all to buy a house. Remember the housing CRASH of 2006? They created it and were stupid enough to keep taking credit for it. Their base is so stupid, they think it was the banks fault for loaning them the money they could not repay.. NO it was Clinton and the left that changed the rules that allowed all those bad loans.

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Post by ezzy333 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:54 pm

oldbeek wrote:If Hillary wins, we loose. She is anti hunter, anti gun,anti constitution. She will load the supreme court with liberal judges. Her entire career is strewn with crooked deals. The primary reason we can not produce jobs is the libs and enviro's stop any new construction. When at the Clinton library in 2009, there was a display where Bill and Hillary were taking credit for creating banking rules that allowed those who had no credit rating at all to buy a house. Remember the housing CRASH of 2006? They created it and were stupid enough to keep taking credit for it. Their base is so stupid, they think it was the banks fault for loaning them the money they could not repay.. NO it was Clinton and the left that changed the rules that allowed all those bad loans.
They didn't allow them, they gave the banks an ultimatum to either make those loans or face federal prosecution
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Post by Gertie » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:23 pm

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Post by oldbeek » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:53 pm

Very good article. This points out that we need a person in the white house that knows business. The crew we have in congress have all been sucking off the govt payroll their entire lives. Most started as city councilmen in some podunk town and just move up from there. Or as an intern at age 18.

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Post by Dakotazeb » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:47 pm

What is scarier than Hillary in the White House is the support that Bernie has generated and the young people out there that think a Socialism is better than a Democracy. I really feel for my grand kids.
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Post by Gertie » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:47 pm

Dakotazeb wrote:What is scarier than Hillary in the White House is the support that Bernie has generated and the young people out there that think a Socialism is better than a Democracy. I really feel for my grand kids.
I'm not a Bernie supporter (or Hillary or Trump... :? ) however, we do not, nor have we ever been a true democracy. We are a Republic and always have been (http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/Ameri ... emrep.html). The "Berners" argue that our representatives are passing laws that favor those few who have the most assets to the detriment of the majority and that is creating economic divisions that are contributing to an overall economic and social decline. They advocate for taxation and policy that would "level the playing field" and provide broader economic opportunity. I think it's a bit "pie in the sky" to be sure, especially when one takes into account globalization and trade. That said, what they are advocating does not change our Constitution nor does it change our form of governance (we would still be a Republic). My personal opinion is that similar results, albeit much less extreme, could be achieved by installing strict term limits and reversing the "Citizens United" decision along with a few laws that keep our Representatives at the beck and call of big campaign contributors. I'll go ahead and wait on holding my breath for any of that happening any time soon.
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Post by DougB » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:15 am

oldbeek wrote:
Very good article. This points out that we need a person in the white house that knows business. The crew we have in congress have all been sucking off the govt payroll their entire lives. Most started as city councilmen in some podunk town and just move up from there. Or as an intern at age 18.
You have read about Trumps business plan, where bankruptcy is considered renegotiating the deal. He makes money on real estate, using his fathers business and business plan. He screws up businesses he tries to run. His fathers business was started using a loophole in a federal loan program.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... kruptcies/
Fiorina said. "That is in fact precisely the way you ran your casinos. You ran up mountains of debt, as well as losses, using other people's money, and you were forced to file for bankruptcy not once, not twice, four times."
This of course forces the debtors to eat the loss. Which passes some of it to the tax payers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... ot-richer/
He is a billionaire today despite this poor performance because when he started his career, his father had already built a colossal real-estate empire. And the wealth Donald Trump has accumulated since then has at times come at the expense of taxpayers or the banks and investors who have lent him money.
Trump's father, Fred Trump, built his real-estate business on federal subsidies, as The Washington Post's Emily Badger has reported. Financing from Uncle Sam isn't available to the typical investor (although homeowners do benefit indirectly from federal subsidies and can deduct interest they pay on their mortgage from their tax bill). The younger Trump has continued that strategy, boasting about his ability to secure taxpayer dollars from local officials
Using Trump's preferred estimates of his wealth, he has still performed worse than our hypothetical Main Street retiree. He told The New York Times he was worth $200 million in 1976, an amount that would be worth $12 billion today.
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Post by Dakotazeb » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:12 am

In reality these political posts should not be allowed on this site. I know other hunting/dog forums forbid it. It generally just creates arguments between the left and the right that really serve no purpose.
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Post by ezzy333 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:46 am

Dakotazeb wrote:In reality these political posts should not be allowed on this site. I know other hunting/dog forums forbid it. It generally just creates arguments between the left and the right that really serve no purpose.
Our purpose is to be a site that provides useful info to our members. We narrow that down to gundog related on the regular topics. However, it was requested we have an off topic form and we agreed since this is also a place we would like people to come to and enjoy. Our thinking is as long as it is kept civil we can do it and for those who aren't interested it is very easy to not open it. that way everyone is satisfied and it is a topic that needs to be discussed. I have never understood the reasoning behind forbidding topic that people want to talk about and need talking about.

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Post by mask » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:54 am

Off Topic is fun and educational so keep it going. Thanks Ezzy.

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Post by SetterNut » Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:05 pm

Why would you vote for someone that can't tell the truth. How many times has she been caught now in outright bold face lies, I have lost count.

We can't follow up the disaster that Obama has left with someone who will continue to lie, mislead, and has failed at pretty much everything she has touched.

Trump in not perfect, the press hates him and does everything they can to destroy him, but he is FAR superior to Hillary.
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Post by Timewise65 » Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:43 pm

SetterNut wrote:Why would you vote for someone that can't tell the truth. How many times has she been caught now in outright bold face lies, I have lost count.

We can't follow up the disaster that Obama has left with someone who will continue to lie, mislead, and has failed at pretty much everything she has touched.

Trump is not perfect, the press hates him and does everything they can to destroy him, but he is FAR superior to Hillary.
SetterNut....Very well said! We have a two party system, like it or not! Either Hillary of Trump will become our next President. In the last two Presidential Elections the numbers show that Democrats have a definite advantage due to the way the electoral college works (not to mention the illegals that will be allowed to vote). Based on these facts, anyone who stays home not voting, or votes third party...is voting for Hillary!

Now most of you may have noticed in other posts that I spout off a lot about Trump and how important voting for him is, but actually I have been a big Cruz fan for years. Until the Convention, I still liked Cruz, but knew that he was legitimately beaten by Trump. So I was and am resolved to support Trump!

Having Clinton in office not only puts an immoral dishonest liberal in the White House, but she will change the Supreme Court to a Liberal majority for 40+ years.....and that will change the country and our Constitution for ever!
If this happen you can kiss you hunting good by! The Second Amendment will be devastated...! Your dogs will have to become couch potatoes! :mrgreen:

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Post by Mountaineer » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:06 pm

Timewise65 wrote:...Your dogs will have to become couch potatoes!
Oh, good sweet jesus lord.....now the other side starts the silly stuff.
No wonder this country is in a mess. :roll: ...you all vote, dontcha?

There are many reasons why a birddog will be a bit challenged, especially in some areas, to repeat the better past in this country but Mrs. Crooked Finger and the Supremes are down the list of causative factors.
Already one character used the NF for false argument points, now another trots out birddogs turning into couch dogs for the same try at traction points...not that my new gordon puppy is not already working for that label, successfully. :wink:
Once again, if even a few believe that tripe then the real issues at hand afield get set aside and, more likely, ignored.

God Bless America....someone should, as commonsense and reality are getting kicked to the curb in favor of rants and cut & paste dueling experts.
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Post by AAA Gundogs » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:56 pm

oldbeek wrote:
Very good article. This points out that we need a person in the white house that knows business. The crew we have in congress have all been sucking off the govt payroll their entire lives. Most started as city councilmen in some podunk town and just move up from there. Or as an intern at age 18.

The problem is Trump doesn't know business. A businessman can do what is ethical and moral while still turning a profit.

He is a scammer. Maximize profits by all legal and, if it's profitable, all illegal methods. When confronted about prior misdeads, they'll ignore any ethical or moral questions and default to it being legal.

Let's say that for once Trump is telling the truth and he's not releasing returns because he's under irs audit for every year of this millennium. This alone should be a red flag. It means that he's got a long history of playing liar's poker with the irs which is when you file an utter bs fantasy return with the irs. It's done expecting to get audited but knowing the irs won't catch the half of it.

Frankly, I agree with Mitt Romney, who at least had the commonsense to file amended returns to increase his tax rate before releasing them, that Trump's hiding a vastly lower income than he claims and other bombshells.

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Post by shags » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:56 am

Are you spouting opinion and parroting hypotheticals from the liberal media, or can you provide links that prove what you're claiming?
Mr. Trump not successful? He self-financed his primary campaign and flies around the country in his own 747. Do you think it matters if he's worth $4 billion or $10billion? Who the heck cares about his tax returns? If the IRS can catch a $2 mistake on my return, surely they would catch errors on his. Especially since it's been disclosed that the IRS is made up of liberal goons who target conservatives.
You probably don't want to go there talking about ethics in business, comsidering Hillary's background.
Can't wait for the debates on that one.

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10 Reasons Why I Will Never Vote for Donald Trump
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July 19, 2016, 1:49 am

1) His attack on John McCain was a slur against all POWs.

It has been exactly a year since Trump said of John McCain at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

What would Trump know of heroism or valor. He isn’t fit to lick McCain’s boots. Unfortunately, there are too many Republicans who hate John McCain more than they love this country.

By all means, dislike McCain all you want. When Trump besmirched McCain, he slurred all POWs. This would includes the like of Greg “Pappy” Boyington, Louis Zamperini and the men forced to walk the Bataan Death March. It’s hard for me to take Trump seriously when he claims he’s going to take care of our soldiers and reform the VA when he holds the soldiers who have suffered the most with such contempt.

Mocking New York Times Reporter Serge Kovaleski for His Disability
If Trump has contempt for American POWs it isn’t much of a stretch for him to show his contempt of someone who is physically disabled.

Last November, Trump mocked New York Times reporter Serge Kovaleski’s physical appearance at a rally in South Carolina last November. Kovaleski has a congenital condition known as arthrogryposis which causes curving of the joints in the hands and feet.

At the time, Trump claimed that there were “thousands and thousands” of Muslims who cheered the 9/11 attacks and cited a 2001 article written by Kovaleski when he was with the Washington Post. However, Kovaleski’s article made no such claim and publicly said so. Here is what Kovaleski actually wrote in 2001:

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the really, folks, come on. Are we serious
10 Reasons Why I Will Never

There it is. Kovaleski never wrote there were “thousands and thousands” of Muslims cheering the 9/11 attack. But Trump isn’t one to let facts get in the way of an argument. Kovaleski had to be punished for crossing The Donald. After Trump received a backlash for mocking Kovaleski’s condition, he denied he claimed he had never met Kovaleski. Trump said, “I have no idea who this reporter, Serge Kovalski [sic], is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence.” In fact, Kovaleski interviewed him on many occasions while he was a reporter for the New York Daily News.

Given that Sarah Palin has a child with disabilities I am at a loss as why she would support someone who behaved in such cruel manner by virtue of his physical condition.

He Judges Women Solely by Their Physical Appearance (i.e. Carly Fiorina & Heidi Cruz)
Trump’s cruelty extends to women who don’t measure up to his Miss USA/Supermodel standards. Of his former GOP presidential rival Carly Fiorina, he told Rolling Stone:

Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not s’posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?

Trump would later say he was referring to Fiorina’s “persona.” Fiorina didn’t buy it and during the GOP candidates debate on CNN last September stated, “I think women all over the country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said.” Looking like a toddler who had just been admonished by his mother for being a naughty boy, Trump could only say, “I think she’s got a beautiful face and I think she’s a beautiful woman.”


There was also the time last March when Trump threatened to “spill the beans” on Heidi Cruz after an anti-Trump Super PAC posted a nude photo of Trump’s wife Melania. Trump escalated matters when he retweeted an unflattering picture of Heidi Cruz alongside one of Melania Trump which read, “No Need to Spill The Beans. The Images Are Worth a Thousand Words.”

The backlash against Trump was such that he actually admitted that retweeting the picture was “a mistake” telling Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, “If I had to do it again, I wouldn’t have sent it.” However, this did not prevent Trump from besmirching other members of Ted Cruz’s family.

Suggesting Ted Cruz’s Father Was Part of the JFK Assassination
Hours before effectively clinching the Republican nomination in early May, Trump saw fit to link Ted Cruz’s father, Rafael to the assassination of President Kennedy. He told Fox & Friends, “I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?”

While Trump based this on a dubious story from the National Enquirer, when we get to the heart of the matter, he was angry at Cruz’s father for having the nerve to criticize him. The elder Cruz said a vote for Trump “could be the destruction of America.” To which Trump responded, “I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to do it. I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to say it.”

It would appear that Trump is unfamiliar with the notion that the First Amendment equally applies all of us including people who don’t worship the ground on which he walks. Given that he believes that Rafael Cruz nor anyone should be allowed to criticize him, I shudder to think what Trump intends to do with the First Amendment should he get to sit in the Oval Office. In which case, Cruz’s words could come to fruition.

One might take issue with my argument that Trump’s words concerning the Republican National Convention are the first steps towards totalitarianism. Why, then, does Trump admire the likes of Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, and Saddam Hussein?

His Racist, Self-Serving Attack on Judge Curiel
Trump wants Judge Gonzalo Curiel to recuse himself from the Trump University case because of his “Mexican heritage” and “he’s a Mexican”. Well, good to know that Trump judges Curiel by the color of his skin.

Mind you, Trump and his legal team have had ample oppotunity to formally ask for Curiel’s removal and have not done so. For Trump to object to Curiel in this manner is both self-serving, legitimizes racism, and threatens the very independence of our judiciary.

Nominate Me Or There Could Be Riots
Fresh off winning primaries in Illinois, North Carolina and Florida (which propelled Marco Rubio out of the race) in March, it wasn’t enough for Trump. In a CNN interview, Trump suggested what could happen if he fell short of 1,237 at the Republican National Convention. “I think you’d have riots. I’m representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people,” said Trump. Given the violent behavior of some of his supporters at his rallies and Trump’s encouragement of that behavior up to and including paying for the legal bills of a man who sucker punched a young black man and said that young black man should be killed, the comment was clearly meant to coerce and intimidate. Should he become President, it won’t be the last time he threatens violence if things don’t go his way. These are the first steps towards totalitarianism.

His Admiration for Dictators
One might take issue with my argument that Trump’s words concerning the Republican National Convention are the first steps towards totalitarianism. Why, then, does Trump admire the likes of Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, and Saddam Hussein?

Last December, when MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough questioned Trump about Putin’s record of killing journalists, Trump replied, “He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader. Unlike what we have in this country.” When Scarborough pressed Trump on the killing of journalists, Trump quipped, “I think our country does plenty of killing.” What a nice way for a possible Commander in Chief to bash the military. How utterly disgraceful.

Although Trump referred to North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un as a “maniac” he also said “you gotta give him credit” at a rally in Iowa in January:

How many young guys — he was like 26 or 25 when his father died — take over these tough generals, and all of a sudden … he goes in, he takes over, and he’s the boss. It’s incredible. He wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one.

He’s also wiped out a lot of innocent civilians. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea likened its prison camps to those of the Nazis. A future President of the United States should not give “credit” to a leader whose ambition it is to become the next Hitler or Stalin.

Nor for that matter should a future President praise the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein for killing terrorists as he did earlier this month. Say what you will about the War in Iraq, but Saddam didn’t killed terrorists, he harbored them. How about Fatah founder Abu Nidal? Or Abu Abbas, the man responsible for organizing the 1985 attack on the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro? Abbas’ Palestine Liberation Front shot and killed Leon Klinghoffer, a wheelchair bound American Jew and forced the crew to throw him and his wheelchair overboard. Saddam harbored both terrorists. Or does Trump not consider attacks on Jews to be terrorism?

Retweeting a White Supremacist Meme of the Star of David
With her flagrant flouting of the law on her e-mails, her Clinton Foundation dealings or even her cattle futures investment, Hillary Clinton might very well be the “most corrupt candidate ever.” But put that caption with money and a Star of David into a meme that was originally tweeted by a white supremacist and then you’ve got something else altogether.

The tweet was promptly taken down. Forty-eight hours later, Trump absurdly claimed that it was a sheriff’s star. When that didn’t work, he invoked the Disney movie Frozen.

Trump’s rationalizations simply lack credibility given his efforts to curry favor with the white supremacist vote.

His Reluctance to Condemn David Duke
It’s not often that a presidential candidate gets the support of both David Duke and Louis Farrakhan. Trump has done the impossible and united these hateful figures.

You would think that Trump would have disavowed such support as Ronald Reagan did in both 1980 and in 1984. All Trump needed to do was to quote Reagan who said in 1980, “I have no tolerance with what the Klan represents and I want nothing to do with it.” But Trump doesn’t have Reagan’s character.

This was evident during Trump’s embarrassing interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper in late February when he claimed he knew nothing of David Duke or white supremacy. He would later blame his poor performance on a bad earpiece. People heard Trump loud and clear.

Trump would eventually say of Duke, “I Disavow, OK?” This disavowal was done with all the sincerity of Mike Pence’s support of Ted Cruz. Donald Trump has done more than anyone in this country to make racism legitimate and socially acceptable.

His Defamation of President Bush on 9/11 & WMD
Trump was full of anything but love during the GOP candidates debate in South Carolina the day before Valentine’s Day when he when after Jeb Bush by defaming his brother concerning both the September 11th attacks and WMDs in Iraq.

On Iraq and WMDs, Trump said, “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none.” This statement effectively put Trump to the Left of Michael Moore. Perhaps Trump will appoint Moore as Secretary of Defense.

Later in that debate, when Marco Rubio disputed Trump’s assertion and said that President Bush kept us safe, Trump replied, “The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush. He kept us safe? That is not safe. That is not safe, Marco. That is not safe.” By that reasoning, Trump could blame FDR for Pearl Harbor. The blame for Pearl Harbor falls on the Japanese and the blame for the attacks of September 11, 2001 fall on al Qaeda.

At best, Trump is a rich man’s Alex Jones and at worst he gives al Qaeda (and by extension ISIS) aid and comfort thereby relieving them of their responsibility for this act of evil.

It is for these 10 reasons (among many others) that I cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump in November or ever.

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shags wrote:Are you spouting opinion and parroting hypotheticals from the liberal media, or can you provide links that prove what you're claiming?
Mr. Trump not successful? He self-financed his primary campaign and flies around the country in his own 747. Do you think it matters if he's worth $4 billion or $10billion? Who the heck cares about his tax returns? If the IRS can catch a $2 mistake on my return, surely they would catch errors on his. Especially since it's been disclosed that the IRS is made up of liberal goons who target conservatives.
You probably don't want to go there talking about ethics in business, comsidering Hillary's background.
Can't wait for the debates on that one.
He's a scammer. A successful businessman doesn't see their high profits from loading up companies with debt, cashing out, declaring bankruptcy, and hiding behind the veil.

Btw, it's fantasy that he self funded his campaign. His campaign took out a loan, of which he carried the paper at a absurd interest rate, which will get paid with RNC money.

The "blue collar billionaire" has no clothes, atleast that are made in the US, and I sure he'll be more than exposed. He's been living off of scamming the hayseeds and little guy for years because most of New York wealth is done with him.

And stop with the liberal media bullshit, the Republican party's 2012 nominee Mitt Romney is calling bullshit on Trump.

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Post by AAA Gundogs » Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:22 am

The best thing you can day about Trump is that he has a severe personality disorder that's a disqualifier for the office of President.

There is a very good reason why national security advisors and personnel from the last 4 republican white houses formed Republicans For Hillary and endorsed Clinton.

His mouth would be a daily Cuban missile crisis.
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1) His attack on John McCain was a slur against all POWs.

It has been exactly a year since Trump said of John McCain at the Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa, “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

What would Trump know of heroism or valor. He isn’t fit to lick McCain’s boots. Unfortunately, there are too many Republicans who hate John McCain more than they love this country.

By all means, dislike McCain all you want. When Trump besmirched McCain, he slurred all POWs. This would includes the like of Greg “Pappy” Boyington, Louis Zamperini and the men forced to walk the Bataan Death March. It’s hard for me to take Trump seriously when he claims he’s going to take care of our soldiers and reform the VA when he holds the soldiers who have suffered the most with such contempt.

Mocking New York Times Reporter Serge Kovaleski for His Disability
If Trump has contempt for American POWs it isn’t much of a stretch for him to show his contempt of someone who is physically disabled.

Last November, Trump mocked New York Times reporter Serge Kovaleski’s physical appearance at a rally in South Carolina last November. Kovaleski has a congenital condition known as arthrogryposis which causes curving of the joints in the hands and feet.

At the time, Trump claimed that there were “thousands and thousands” of Muslims who cheered the 9/11 attacks and cited a 2001 article written by Kovaleski when he was with the Washington Post. However, Kovaleski’s article made no such claim and publicly said so. Here is what Kovaleski actually wrote in 2001:

In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the really, folks, come on. Are we serious
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There it is. Kovaleski never wrote there were “thousands and thousands” of Muslims cheering the 9/11 attack. But Trump isn’t one to let facts get in the way of an argument. Kovaleski had to be punished for crossing The Donald. After Trump received a backlash for mocking Kovaleski’s condition, he denied he claimed he had never met Kovaleski. Trump said, “I have no idea who this reporter, Serge Kovalski [sic], is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence.” In fact, Kovaleski interviewed him on many occasions while he was a reporter for the New York Daily News.

Given that Sarah Palin has a child with disabilities I am at a loss as why she would support someone who behaved in such cruel manner by virtue of his physical condition.

He Judges Women Solely by Their Physical Appearance (i.e. Carly Fiorina & Heidi Cruz)
Trump’s cruelty extends to women who don’t measure up to his Miss USA/Supermodel standards. Of his former GOP presidential rival Carly Fiorina, he told Rolling Stone:

Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?! I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not s’posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?

Trump would later say he was referring to Fiorina’s “persona.” Fiorina didn’t buy it and during the GOP candidates debate on CNN last September stated, “I think women all over the country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said.” Looking like a toddler who had just been admonished by his mother for being a naughty boy, Trump could only say, “I think she’s got a beautiful face and I think she’s a beautiful woman.”


There was also the time last March when Trump threatened to “spill the beans” on Heidi Cruz after an anti-Trump Super PAC posted a nude photo of Trump’s wife Melania. Trump escalated matters when he retweeted an unflattering picture of Heidi Cruz alongside one of Melania Trump which read, “No Need to Spill The Beans. The Images Are Worth a Thousand Words.”

The backlash against Trump was such that he actually admitted that retweeting the picture was “a mistake” telling Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, “If I had to do it again, I wouldn’t have sent it.” However, this did not prevent Trump from besmirching other members of Ted Cruz’s family.

Suggesting Ted Cruz’s Father Was Part of the JFK Assassination
Hours before effectively clinching the Republican nomination in early May, Trump saw fit to link Ted Cruz’s father, Rafael to the assassination of President Kennedy. He told Fox & Friends, “I mean, what was he doing — what was he doing with Lee Harvey Oswald shortly before the death? Before the shooting?”

While Trump based this on a dubious story from the National Enquirer, when we get to the heart of the matter, he was angry at Cruz’s father for having the nerve to criticize him. The elder Cruz said a vote for Trump “could be the destruction of America.” To which Trump responded, “I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to do it. I think it’s a disgrace that he’s allowed to say it.”

It would appear that Trump is unfamiliar with the notion that the First Amendment equally applies all of us including people who don’t worship the ground on which he walks. Given that he believes that Rafael Cruz nor anyone should be allowed to criticize him, I shudder to think what Trump intends to do with the First Amendment should he get to sit in the Oval Office. In which case, Cruz’s words could come to fruition.

One might take issue with my argument that Trump’s words concerning the Republican National Convention are the first steps towards totalitarianism. Why, then, does Trump admire the likes of Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, and Saddam Hussein?

His Racist, Self-Serving Attack on Judge Curiel
Trump wants Judge Gonzalo Curiel to recuse himself from the Trump University case because of his “Mexican heritage” and “he’s a Mexican”. Well, good to know that Trump judges Curiel by the color of his skin.

Mind you, Trump and his legal team have had ample oppotunity to formally ask for Curiel’s removal and have not done so. For Trump to object to Curiel in this manner is both self-serving, legitimizes racism, and threatens the very independence of our judiciary.

Nominate Me Or There Could Be Riots
Fresh off winning primaries in Illinois, North Carolina and Florida (which propelled Marco Rubio out of the race) in March, it wasn’t enough for Trump. In a CNN interview, Trump suggested what could happen if he fell short of 1,237 at the Republican National Convention. “I think you’d have riots. I’m representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people,” said Trump. Given the violent behavior of some of his supporters at his rallies and Trump’s encouragement of that behavior up to and including paying for the legal bills of a man who sucker punched a young black man and said that young black man should be killed, the comment was clearly meant to coerce and intimidate. Should he become President, it won’t be the last time he threatens violence if things don’t go his way. These are the first steps towards totalitarianism.

His Admiration for Dictators
One might take issue with my argument that Trump’s words concerning the Republican National Convention are the first steps towards totalitarianism. Why, then, does Trump admire the likes of Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, and Saddam Hussein?

Last December, when MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough questioned Trump about Putin’s record of killing journalists, Trump replied, “He’s running his country, and at least he’s a leader. Unlike what we have in this country.” When Scarborough pressed Trump on the killing of journalists, Trump quipped, “I think our country does plenty of killing.” What a nice way for a possible Commander in Chief to bash the military. How utterly disgraceful.

Although Trump referred to North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un as a “maniac” he also said “you gotta give him credit” at a rally in Iowa in January:

How many young guys — he was like 26 or 25 when his father died — take over these tough generals, and all of a sudden … he goes in, he takes over, and he’s the boss. It’s incredible. He wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one.

He’s also wiped out a lot of innocent civilians. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea likened its prison camps to those of the Nazis. A future President of the United States should not give “credit” to a leader whose ambition it is to become the next Hitler or Stalin.

Nor for that matter should a future President praise the late Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein for killing terrorists as he did earlier this month. Say what you will about the War in Iraq, but Saddam didn’t killed terrorists, he harbored them. How about Fatah founder Abu Nidal? Or Abu Abbas, the man responsible for organizing the 1985 attack on the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro? Abbas’ Palestine Liberation Front shot and killed Leon Klinghoffer, a wheelchair bound American Jew and forced the crew to throw him and his wheelchair overboard. Saddam harbored both terrorists. Or does Trump not consider attacks on Jews to be terrorism?

Retweeting a White Supremacist Meme of the Star of David
With her flagrant flouting of the law on her e-mails, her Clinton Foundation dealings or even her cattle futures investment, Hillary Clinton might very well be the “most corrupt candidate ever.” But put that caption with money and a Star of David into a meme that was originally tweeted by a white supremacist and then you’ve got something else altogether.

The tweet was promptly taken down. Forty-eight hours later, Trump absurdly claimed that it was a sheriff’s star. When that didn’t work, he invoked the Disney movie Frozen.

Trump’s rationalizations simply lack credibility given his efforts to curry favor with the white supremacist vote.

His Reluctance to Condemn David Duke
It’s not often that a presidential candidate gets the support of both David Duke and Louis Farrakhan. Trump has done the impossible and united these hateful figures.

You would think that Trump would have disavowed such support as Ronald Reagan did in both 1980 and in 1984. All Trump needed to do was to quote Reagan who said in 1980, “I have no tolerance with what the Klan represents and I want nothing to do with it.” But Trump doesn’t have Reagan’s character.

This was evident during Trump’s embarrassing interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper in late February when he claimed he knew nothing of David Duke or white supremacy. He would later blame his poor performance on a bad earpiece. People heard Trump loud and clear.

Trump would eventually say of Duke, “I Disavow, OK?” This disavowal was done with all the sincerity of Mike Pence’s support of Ted Cruz. Donald Trump has done more than anyone in this country to make racism legitimate and socially acceptable.

His Defamation of President Bush on 9/11 & WMD
Trump was full of anything but love during the GOP candidates debate in South Carolina the day before Valentine’s Day when he when after Jeb Bush by defaming his brother concerning both the September 11th attacks and WMDs in Iraq.

On Iraq and WMDs, Trump said, “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none.” This statement effectively put Trump to the Left of Michael Moore. Perhaps Trump will appoint Moore as Secretary of Defense.

Later in that debate, when Marco Rubio disputed Trump’s assertion and said that President Bush kept us safe, Trump replied, “The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush. He kept us safe? That is not safe. That is not safe, Marco. That is not safe.” By that reasoning, Trump could blame FDR for Pearl Harbor. The blame for Pearl Harbor falls on the Japanese and the blame for the attacks of September 11, 2001 fall on al Qaeda.

At best, Trump is a rich man’s Alex Jones and at worst he gives al Qaeda (and by extension ISIS) aid and comfort thereby relieving them of their responsibility for this act of evil.

It is for these 10 reasons (among many others) that I cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump in November or ever.

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Post by mnaj_springer » Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:26 pm

shags wrote:No third party candidate will get enough votes to make a difference of any kind to give a heads up to the two major parties.

If Trump wins and screws up, he can be impeached. There are enough antis to ditch him if need be.

If Hillary wins, we are stuck with her. S-T-U-C-K.

I'd rather take a chance with Trump than be stuck with that vile hag.
Hopefully that impeachment can happen before he starts a nuclear holocaust. And I'm not a "Hillary lover," I'm a "Trump hater." And honestly, I don't hate the guy, just hate him as a possible president of the country I love. In the role he's lived in the past he's not bad. He makes good reality TV. But so do the Kardashians, Jersey Shore, and Flava Flave... but I don't want any of them to be president either. Could you image Snooki as president?!? Or what would happen with Kanye in the White House? Scares me almost as much as the current Republican hopeful!
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Post by DougB » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:34 pm

WW3 will be fought with nuclear weapons. WW4 will be fought with rocks. Trump could trip the wire accidentally.

I am not going to disagree with any bad thing you say about Hillery. Her being authoritarian, tied into the 1%, trying to over throw 2A. I don't want her as president.
Trump is authoritarian (his way or the highway-disagree with him on anything, see what happens), Trump is the 1% and his money comes to him from govt programs and bailouts. Trump is pro2A. Rest of the amendments are overlooked. His comments about the mother of an Islamic soldier who fought and died in the US uniform cross any line you can draw.

Hillary may be more GOP than Mitt. Trump is a Trump supporter. Him and his.
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Post by nikegundog » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:49 pm

DougB wrote:WW3 will be fought with nuclear weapons. WW4 will be fought with rocks. Trump could trip the wire accidentally.

I am not going to disagree with any bad thing you say about Hillery. Her being authoritarian, tied into the 1%, trying to over throw 2A. I don't want her as president.
Trump is authoritarian (his way or the highway-disagree with him on anything, see what happens), Trump is the 1% and his money comes to him from govt programs and bailouts. Trump is pro2A. Rest of the amendments are overlooked. His comments about the mother of an Islamic soldier who fought and died in the US uniform cross any line you can draw.

Hillary may be more GOP than Mitt. Trump is a Trump supporter. Him and his.
I wouldn't call someone who wanted black guns banned and waiting periods extended, pro Second Amendment, quite the opposite.

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Post by mnaj_springer » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:06 pm

You know for all of Hillary's faults (yes she has them), she definitely has one thing on Trump. She clearly has a better understanding of the phrase 'until death do us part.' And she knows what the 'for worse' part looks like.
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Post by shags » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:24 pm

mnaj_springer wrote:You know for all of Hillary's faults (yes she has them), she definitely has one thing on Trump. She clearly has a better understanding of the phrase 'until death do us part.' And she knows what the 'for worse' part looks like.
LOL So does Bill!

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Post by DougB » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:24 pm

shags wrote:
mnaj_springer wrote:You know for all of Hillary's faults (yes she has them), she definitely has one thing on Trump. She clearly has a better understanding of the phrase 'until death do us part.' And she knows what the 'for worse' part looks like.
LOL So does Bill!
Okay. Thats some images I don't want to see.
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Post by AAA Gundogs » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:02 pm

SetterNut wrote: We can't follow up the disaster that Obama has left with someone who will continue to lie, mislead, and has failed at pretty much everything she has touched.
What disaster has Obama left us with? Not hyperbole or platitudes. Give verifiable facts to support your position?

What are Hillary's failures?

Trump has left a 45 year trail of failure where he's screwed over everyone in his path to the point that he won't release a single year of tax returns and he can't get credit or even investors domestically.

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Post by AAA Gundogs » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:05 pm

mnaj_springer wrote:
shags wrote:No third party candidate will get enough votes to make a difference of any kind to give a heads up to the two major parties.

If Trump wins and screws up, he can be impeached. There are enough antis to ditch him if need be.

If Hillary wins, we are stuck with her. S-T-U-C-K.

I'd rather take a chance with Trump than be stuck with that vile hag.
Hopefully that impeachment can happen before he starts a nuclear holocaust. And I'm not a "Hillary lover," I'm a "Trump hater." And honestly, I don't hate the guy, just hate him as a possible president of the country I love. In the role he's lived in the past he's not bad. He makes good reality TV. But so do the Kardashians, Jersey Shore, and Flava Flave... but I don't want any of them to be president either. Could you image Snooki as president?!? Or what would happen with Kanye in the White House? Scares me almost as much as the current Republican hopeful!
Watch the movie Idiocracy. Even as a nominee, Trump proves it's not if but when.

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AAA Gundogs wrote:
mnaj_springer wrote:
shags wrote:No third party candidate will get enough votes to make a difference of any kind to give a heads up to the two major parties.

If Trump wins and screws up, he can be impeached. There are enough antis to ditch him if need be.

If Hillary wins, we are stuck with her. S-T-U-C-K.

I'd rather take a chance with Trump than be stuck with that vile hag.
Hopefully that impeachment can happen before he starts a nuclear holocaust. And I'm not a "Hillary lover," I'm a "Trump hater." And honestly, I don't hate the guy, just hate him as a possible president of the country I love. In the role he's lived in the past he's not bad. He makes good reality TV. But so do the Kardashians, Jersey Shore, and Flava Flave... but I don't want any of them to be president either. Could you image Snooki as president?!? Or what would happen with Kanye in the White House? Scares me almost as much as the current Republican hopeful!
Watch the movie Idiocracy. Even as a nominee, Trump proves it's not if but when.
I've seen it. It could turn out to be the first pre-filmed documentary! Hahaha
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Post by Steve007 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:46 pm

shags wrote:Are you spouting opinion and parroting hypotheticals from the liberal media, or can you provide links that prove what you're claiming?
Mr. Trump not successful? He self-financed his primary campaign and flies around the country in his own 747. Do you think it matters if he's worth $4 billion or $10billion? Who the heck cares about his tax returns? If the IRS can catch a $2 mistake on my return, surely they would catch errors on his. Especially since it's been disclosed that the IRS is made up of liberal goons who target conservatives.
You probably don't want to go there talking about ethics in business, comsidering Hillary's background.
Can't wait for the debates on that one.
Good post.

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Post by DougB » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:27 pm

Steve007 wrote:
shags wrote:Are you spouting opinion and parroting hypotheticals from the liberal media, or can you provide links that prove what you're claiming?
Mr. Trump not successful? He self-financed his primary campaign and flies around the country in his own 747. Do you think it matters if he's worth $4 billion or $10billion? Who the heck cares about his tax returns? If the IRS can catch a $2 mistake on my return, surely they would catch errors on his. Especially since it's been disclosed that the IRS is made up of liberal goons who target conservatives.
You probably don't want to go there talking about ethics in business, comsidering Hillary's background.
Can't wait for the debates on that one.
Good post.
Maybe. Couple of points
1) Hillary's bad points don't make Trump good
2) Trump started with a business worth hundreds of millions. Fred left him about $400,000,000. Invested in a money market, he would be worth about $12 B today.
3) He has a history of bankruptcy, stiffing creditors, and screwing over associates. A business goes under, he has the money out of it. His salary is $60,000,000 per year.
4) His fathers core business makes the money. When Trump goes outside that, he tends to fail..He knows how to make money. Thats not the same as running a business.
5) IRS is made up of civil servants who find errors in tax plans. The screw over everybody equally. When the political groups were examined, yes , lots of them were conservative. Lots of them were liberal also.(IG testimony to congress) The ones in hot water were in violation of the law(something that was forgotten in the PC race))
6) If we get to the point of comparing lack of ethics in our candidates and the only choice is the unethical one or the really unethical one, we probably need new candidates
7) We don't need no stinking links . Like Trump, we talk to ourselves a lot and have good brains. I, personally, have seen several nice photos of my brain and it is just fine.
Actually, those of us strongly against the Donald have been citing sources. Reliable sources . Accepted sources , except by those who disagree with us but don't give sources.
8) The tax returns tell us if he tells the truth about himself. Does he donate to charity. Does he claim his dead cat as a deduction. Is his business successful. What groups does he donate to (If the KKK is on that list, I want to know).
9) Somebody is giving him money. Somebody is paying for the gas in his key. He has a golden throne.
10) Does he realize that if he wins, his business goes into a blind trust. He has to distance himself from the business
11)Remember, being anti-Trump is not the same as being pro Hillary. I am strongly considering the Disney party this year. Micky Mouse, either way it goes.
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