brittany litter info

[up-hunter]

I have a line on a dame being bred that i've had my eye on because of her success in grouse trials here in michigan.

I was wondering if anyboy could tell me more about the stud dog which is a dog call "Just call me roy" I think he is a all age dog and has done pretty good just was looking for some more info.

thanks

[Brushbustin Sporting Dogs]

Roy has 7 placemments at the Nationals. He is a NFC, 2x NAFC kinda speaks for itself. He hasn't sired that many litters to date I know he has a few juvenile age dogs out there that are placing and derby and puppy stakes. Not sure why he hasn't sired more litters I think he's really hard to get to with the schedule he is on. I think those Wanbli x Roy puppies would be worth a look.

[ezzy333]

Roy is a dog that hasn't been bred a lot as far as I know. He has a good trial record. He is a big and a good moving dog but maybe over the standard.

Ezzy

[kninebirddog]

Roys breeding pretty sweet

His sire is NAFC FC AFC Piney Run Sam out of FC marks Pride of Savanha

Top side has Chicks blazen saw tooth sam which is a beans blaze scipios breeding to spotlight which also goes back to scipio

Bottpm side of Roy is Aux-arc mark HOF gun runners far out and some pride and joy breedings

[NE Vizsla]

Roy is a dog that hasn't been bred a lot as far as I know. He has a good trial record. He is a big and a good moving dog but maybe over the standard.

Ezzy

Now who is stirring the pot ?? Im sure most people remember that "over the standard" debate that was in a Brittany thread awhile back ?

[ezzy333]

Its not stirring the pot when someone asks about pups out of a dog. If he was wanting a pup that he could show or breed it seems to me to be one of the first questions you would ask. If you don't care about the standard then it wouldn't be important. The dog still hunts. But you can see from other threads on here about white GSP's what happens when people have no regards for the breed standards.

I kept a pup oput of our last litter out of my dogs that are on the small side and he has gone at least an inch or two over standard. Thank God I didn't get him sold younger as I was selling him as a show prospect as his type was beautiful. But this is what happens too often when you have dogs out of field trial breeding and it is a problem when you are selling dogs as dual type Brits and don't pay attention to the size thing.

Ezzy

[huntindog]

Roy is a dog that hasn't been bred a lot as far as I know. He has a good trial record. He is a big and a good moving dog but maybe over the standard.


Its not stirring the pot when someone asks about pups out of a dog. If he was wanting a pup that he could show or breed it seems to me to be one of the first questions you would ask. If you don't care about the standard then it wouldn't be important. The dog still hunts. But you can see from other threads on here about white GSP's what happens when people have no regards for the breed standards.

I kept a pup oput of our last litter out of my dogs that are on the small side and he has gone at least an inch or two over standard. Thank God I didn't get him sold younger as I was selling him as a show prospect as his type was beautiful. But this is what happens too often when you have dogs out of field trial breeding and it is a problem when you are selling dogs as dual type Brits and don't pay attention to the size thing.

Ezzy

So are you just talking smack? Or do you have any verifiable info on this claim?

I mean C'mon, Someone could say that your dogs MAYBE be a little gunshy... That wouldn't be right either, unless it had some basis in fact.

What is YOUR basis?

[Ruffshooter]

Don't wish to steal the thread, but I have a question for Ezzy.

Not stirring the pot, however, how does one know whether a dog will be in standard to be sold as such?

Do you keep records on size of certain parts of the anatomy, educated quess etc. I understand it is a crapshoot and much can be told from prior breedings and the parents and Grand parents etc.
What do you do with a pup sold, if as you said with the pup you kept, it falls out of standard.

Just curious.

Thanks,
Rick

[kninebirddog]

Also there are a good handful+ of DC dogs that are ...Taught to stack in
That is what makes certain handlers more popular cause they do their jobs well Know what judges to show under to get field dogs titled to what ever edge to get those DC titles.

No dog is perfect....You take the good traits and breed for the desired traits breeds one stronger traits to enhance the others weak spots
that is all we can do
though people like the breed and may spin off to agility and obedience The Brittany is classified as a BIRDDOG if we keep breeding for other then that First then you may as well settle for what happened to the poodle which once was a top water fowl dog now classified as a non sporting dog cause people in charge of the Breed Club kept lowering the standard to fit the show ring and not the field.

[ezzy333]

Our pups are guarateed to at least qualify for the purpose you are wanting the pup. If someone is wanting a show quality pup then it is treated just like someone wanting a hunting dog. If the pup doesn't qualify for those activities it is taken back and will be placed in a home where it can fulfill the peoples needs. I have taken back pups that were gunshy even though it was produced by the owner and have taken back pups who are disqualified by the breed standard. If we have any hope of keeping our breeds looking and performing as a single breed and also as they were intended then we have to breed for the best pups in all catagories and not pick and choose what we think is important. That would include size, color, and field aptitude. If the pup can't meet those as minimum requirements then it should be nuetered and not getinto the breeding pool.

We wqrk awfully hard at suppling a dog that meets those standards and also fulfills all of the needs of the person buying the pup while keeping the price as low as we can so a younger family canafford a pup that their kids can grow up with and hopefully experience the hunting activities as well as the fun of competeing with their dogs.

[kninebirddog]

http://clubs.akc.org/brit/NationalAllAg ... nships.htm

NFC/NAFC/FC/AFC Just Call ME Roy

2007 4th place NAFC
2006 1st place NAFC
2005 1st place NFC
2004 1st place NAFC
2004 4th place NFC
2003 2nd place NFC

from 2003 -2007 he made his presence known in either the Open or the Amateur National Trial or both

Wanbli has also been making her mark in the brittany world....If I could I would jump on one of these pups myself been hard not to

So many super potential breedings out there for Bird dogs to ahve fun with so little time and kennel space

[up-hunter]

Thanks for all the info guys.

Roy looks leggy by his pics, but i'm not sure exactly how big he is.

[ezzy333]

Uphunter,

I am not sure either. I have heard he was oversized. You might check on pups he has produced. Both dogs have proven themselves in the field but know little else about them. I would see what you can find out about them and then make up your mind what you want.

Ezzy

[Ruffshooter]

Also Thanks.
Rick

[kninebirddog]

Are you looking to show? I do not know what roys true size is and IF he is on the tall size doesn't not mean the pups will be tall either...you can have parents that are well with in standards throw tall pups and small pups...we are only human

if you are just looking for a hunting dog and a trial prospect ...send your deposit if your serious ...i doubt they will have any problems placing those pups


also reviewing wanblis breeding there is a strong line of DC's on her side

so I wouldn't toss the baby out with the bath water Just because the Sire Might or Might not be on the tall size...

[slistoe]

Roy to Wanbli - if you think you might want one of those pups I would just get my money off to them. Doubt there will be much time to decide. If I was in the market for a pup.....