English Pointer Tail

[ChukarCountry]

I have a ten week old English Pointer female and sometimes she has a nice straight tail and then other times she lets it hang there. In the past my other pointers tail's were straight early on. At what age should a pointers tail start to gain strength and stand straight all the time?

Thanks

[QuailHollow]

I don't think you'll have a problem. I attached a picture of Drake when he was 12 weeks old. Then a casual pic of him in the snow and .. a hunting photo. He's almost 4 now. I remember when he was a pup his tail was like a limp noodle. It was long and looked like a piece of spaghetti wagging around. He outgrew it.

[ymepointer]

I had a litter of 10 last year and as little pups some had more muscle control than others but all ended up pretty nice and straight at the end. i don't think ya got anything to worry about as long as the sire and dam had nice straight tails the pups should aproximate that when they mature

[PkerStr8Tail]

I have a ten week old English Pointer female and sometimes she has a nice straight tail and then other times she lets it hang there. In the past my other pointers tail's were straight early on. At what age should a pointers tail start to gain strength and stand straight all the time?

Thanks

I would look to the parents to determine whether to worry or not. If both parents have high tails, let the pup grow into their tail. If either of the parents point with a low or limp tail, then I would say your pup has their genetics. Depends on the knowledge of the genetics from which the pup came from.

[birddogger]

Sometimes, a young pup just has too much tail for their body.

Charlie

[Birddog3412]

A 12 o'clock tail is something I was obsessed with 4 years ago. I have learned that most dogs don't point perfect everytime. A tail can and will change with age up to over a year old, as their muscles develop. Some dogs will pull their tail on pidgeons but 12 o'clock on quail.

[DonF]

Squirt has a lazy tail. He can snap it right up but doesn't do it all the time. Bodie on the other hand has anything but a lazy tail. I think the reason for a difference in tail between pigeons and game birds is that the dog understands the difference between a traning bird and a wild bird. I get the same response for either with my dogs and I think it's from the way I use remote launchers. The dog so much as blinks an eye and I pop the bird out on it. I think that if you do all your training on pen raised birds that fly well you'll find the same thing. It's, IMO, only the difference between training birds and wild birds.

This is Bodie at four years on a pigeon.


Squirt at four years on a pigeon.

[Sharon]

Those are beautiful setters. What is their breeding?

[DonF]

Those are beautiful setters. What is their breeding?

Thank you Sharon. They are 3/4 Tekoa Mt. and 1/4 smith. That's what the breeder told me. Pedigree's are like the who's who of the setter world. had to be force broke to retrieve, would not retrieve at all. BTW. the breeder picked them out. I told him I wanted males and they had to be mostly white and orange. Bodie was the only o/w in his litter and Squirt was the left over. The breeder put a photo of Bodie in his brochere.

[birddogger]

Those really are some beautiful pictures Don!! If I am understanding you correctly about the difference between training birds and wild birds, I agree with you. I think the only real difference with training birds is the way they are presented or method in which they are used.

Charlie

[Birddog3412]

Those really are some beautiful pictures Don!! If I am understanding you correctly about the difference between training birds and wild birds, I agree with you. I think the only real difference with training birds is the way they are presented or method in which they are used.

Charlie

Could you please explain your post? I do not undertand what you mean by you comment "in which they are used".

[DonF]

Those really are some beautiful pictures Don!! If I am understanding you correctly about the difference between training birds and wild birds, I agree with you. I think the only real difference with training birds is the way they are presented or method in which they are used.

Charlie

Absolutely!

[DonF]

Those really are some beautiful pictures Don!! If I am understanding you correctly about the difference between training birds and wild birds, I agree with you. I think the only real difference with training birds is the way they are presented or method in which they are used.

Charlie

Could you please explain your post? I do not undertand what you mean by you comment "in which they are used".

If you are using piegons you can make them act like training birds or wild birds, that is up to you. If you train on pen raised birds unless you got some fabious birds, they are not going to act like wild birds. They will allow the dog to do things a wild bird will not allow. With piegons in a trap it's like wild birds you can control. Pen birds in a trap won't do that. A piegon coming out, flys away. Pen raise may fly off a bit or may go up and right back down. The pen raised bird lands on the ground usually after a short flight, the piegon either lands in a tree, a phone line or goes home. Your dog catches a piegons, it's your fault.